From the Harford County Sheriff’s Office:
Today, Harford County Sheriff Jeffrey Gahler, stood with Frederick County Sheriff Chuck Jenkins, Cecil County Sheriff Scott Adams, law enforcement leaders, Angel Families, and representatives from the MD Senate and House of Delegates to oppose to HB 388 and HB 677.
Sheriff Gahler remarked, “Sadly, Maryland’s Legislature has introduced several bills that will make Maryland a sanctuary state. Going back as far as 2008, I committed to bringing 287(g) to Harford County and, in 2016, President Obama’s Administration approved the program. This program allows local detention center officers, working under ICE supervision, to identify and process for removal those individuals who are in the Country illegally and booked for another crime.
Once an individual is identified, ICE determines the course of action related to any immigration action. Those individuals identified as having the highest priority are those individuals who present a threat to public safety.
As your Sheriff, responsible for keeping our Harford County safe, the 287(g) Program provides me one more tool to accomplish this mission. During my first term as Sheriff, I was pleased to announce that crime had fallen each year and at the end of last year to another all-time low for our County. I credit our crime reduction success to our complete public safety approach to crime fighting and our priorities which are inclusive of the 287(g) Program.
Returning these offenders back into our community to further victimize our citizens is certainly not an effective strategy to reduce crime and keep law abiding citizens safe. Becoming a sanctuary state is not the way to focus on public safety.”
EJk says
Is he up for election this year? Must be buck for another pay raise…
James Langer says
Sheriff Gahler is a cops cop. He does not do this for a pay raise. He does this because he cares about Harford County. Top cop of the state imo.
EJK says
Bullshit…..his pay raise was his main focus. His arguments about why he deserved higher salary in that position was all he could focus on when he first got into office. You keep drinking koolaid if you wish my friend.
mike humphreys says
Why would anyone want thugs, murders, rapist, and other criminals out roaming their streets? I support Sheriff Gahler 100 percent to keep criminals off our streets.
FedUp says
Wow. Racist much?
James Allen Langer says
I have found that those who ask this same question are the ones that have racist thoughts. Apposing illegal immigration and being against sanctuary status is not racist it is actually following the law. If you want to do the opposite I would suggest you love to California where they have just what your looking for .
James Allen Langer says
Sorry * move to California…
Susanne says
FedUp is a typical left-wing moon bat. Do not lock up criminal aliens who have no respect for our immigration laws and shit on tax-paying citizens. Next FedUp will tell you it is racist that we do not want our tax dollars going to feed, educate, change our language, house, provide legal assistance, social security benefits, disability benefits, drivers licenses, voting rights and medical care to these same criminal aliens.
Dickheads like him are the reason democrats are leaving the democratic party for the republican party of law and order.
SoulCrusher says
There is no such thing as law and order when we talk about the R’s and D’s. Both sides have made statutes in violation of the ONLY law that this Country has and that is the Constitution. Statutes are the Rules and Regulations of government employees, not the people. Statute only applies when a causation of harm is present involving a Code violation. Furthermore, once your tax dollars have been assumed by the government, those tax dollars are no longer yours and the criminal enterprise that you call the government will do whatever it wants with those dollars as long as it causes harm to the people. Your government hates you, but you just haven’t seen the writing on the wall yet….
ElHW says
What does keeping criminals have to do with race? I am all for keeping criminals off the streets.
Cher says
No where is race mentioned, yet you feel the need to call someone a racist because their point of view is different than yours. Are you an Antifa member? You sure sound like one.
Greg says
It takes one to know one!
EJK says
If he actually did that it would be great, but as we know the Sherrifs are incapable of dealing with legal citizens let alone illegal kind. His support for the policy has to do with $$$ he can get as a result. Don’t you kid yourself.
Fukumeann says
No need to stress about that because they are already here , yeah it’s alot of non white killers here but all the rapist and sex offenders are white just look at harford co sex offenders registry i seen maybe 2 or 3 non whites but 90 percent of them are white im just saying !!!
RU Kidding says
How is it anyone would suppose this legislation to make Maryland a sanctuary state? If an American citizen commits a crime, caught, convicted, sentenced and jailed for that crime why should illegals be held to a different standard of justice? Being in this country illegally shouldn’t afford them sanctuary states or any other sanctuary in order to evade justice. Doubt they could escape justice in the country they came from, so to expect it here in US is the ideology of the democratic party wanting any one with a logical thinking, common sense brain to believe it’s the right thing to do. Well it’s not. Illegal is illegal, you don’t belong here. You break a law you pay the consequences even that happens to mean ICE determines the course of action for that illegal. So fed up with the liberal democratically thinking people that place the priority of illegals over US citizen’s safe & welfare.
RU Kidding says
“support” not suppose
Socialist Republic of Marlyland says
Feel better now?
Just the facts says
It really is beyond time that Harford county goes to a police dept and give up the politics of an elected sheriff.
Just a thought says
Wrong. The office of the Sheriff has been around for longtime and has worked pretty well. Every county in MD and Baltimore City have a Sheriff’s Office. The office has three main functions. Law Enforcement, court process, and corrections. Several counties and Baltimore City have legislated away the law enforcement arm and created police departments. That makes the police chief a department head under the Mayor or County Executive. That involves a lot more politics. In the case of a Sheriff if you don’t like his performance you vote him out. At one point in MD history only one person had the authority to arrest the sitting Sheriff was the coroner. Like him or not, Sheriff Gahler takes a stand and is no ones puppet. The people of Harford County elected him to do a job and that is what he is trying to do. I have an idea. For all the liberals that think illegal criminal immigrants should not be deported how about this idea. Stand up and proclaim loudly just how you feel. Then a list can be compiled of all of those people. Once that list is completed the Sheriff could round up all the illegals and assign them to live in the homes of people on the list. I wonder how many of those people would want a member of MS 13 sharing a room with their juvenile daughter or son. This would not be a permanent thing. This would only be until the liberals in Congress decide to stop worrying about train wrecking the President and address real issues, such as illegal immigration, that impact good lawful citizens.
SoulCrusher says
True. They have been deporting immigrants with criminal records since the early 1900’s. There’s nothing new about it. Being undocumented or illegal is just a double whammy. For those whom are uninformed just google about mafia deportations and you will see the truth. The only people who are unaware of this seem to be the Democrats, once again. Democrats don’t like telling the truth about history….
EJK says
He takes a stand? Really? Where is his stand on illegal Red Flag Laws? Harford County has one of the highest issue rates in the state. He is nothing but a political puppet and his department is the same.
He plays politics better than anyone I have seen for his own agenda.
Susanne says
You could always move back to Baltimore city where the murder rate is 340 compared to 4 in Harford county. His job is to make me, my family and my community safer and you sir are a dickhead.
LOL says
Yea having an elected Sheriff is way less political than having one working for all taxpayers. Do you people even read the crap you write?
Jay says
Cause having politicians appoint the chief law enforcement officer in the jurisdiction has worked so well in Baltimore #MurderCapitolofAmerica #liberalshithole
A in B.A. says
For those not familiar with the history of Harford County, they put a countywide police force to a vote in one of the general elections, about 20 or so years ago. It lost. I doubt the idea will ever be raised again.
Raven Maniac says
We could use some hard working taxpaying law abiding citizens to spruce up the place…
SoulCrusher says
Immigration is a Federal Authority and Gahler is just for wanting to abide by Federal Law. The Sheriff is a Constitutional Officer elected by the people and abiding by the Constitution is his job. Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 does read, “… To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization. For those of you who don’t understand this just realize Naturalization and Immigration are one and the same, unless we are talking about migrant workers that go home every year after the crops have been harvested. Look, Gahler is right and the Democrats of this State and every other State who oppose Gahler’s viewpoint need to understand that the State have no power to reject the Federal government’s authority involving this issue. The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land and every bit of statutory jibber jabber that conflicts with it is null and void.
Gordon Koerner says
It’s unbelievable that so many cannot understand that when you give up others rights to a fair trial, you have started the process of giving up your own rights. This sheriff is no different than the Gestapo back in the 1930’s and 1940s.. He wants the power to determine that it’s his way or the highway.
I truly feel sorry for so many people who are willing to let others make life in their own image and take away yours and others rights.
Mark my words. If you all continue down this path that the president and this sheriff are leading you down will be the end of democracy. Government’s collapse from with in.
For once I hope the leadership in this state stop the 3 sheriff’s who allow hate group’s to grow in this state. They definitely are more dangerous then a small group of immigrants.
Yes the sheriff is making money off the backs of immigrants along with the private prisons.
Whatever says
Gordon, you stopped taking your medication again, didn’t you? Don’t you remember what the nice doctors told you?
SoulCrusher says
You seem to worry about the rights of those whom are NOT citizens, but don’t seem to understand that the REAL problem is the stealing of rights of the citizens whom have every right listed in the Constitution. The Democratic Party has made statute after statue in violation of the LAW of this land, totally in conflict with the 14th Amendment and decisions of the Supreme Court that interprets the LAW, yet claims the “rule of law” exists within the statutory jibber jabber the Democrats have codified contradicting the LAW. There is no “rule of law” when those claiming to be the LAW are breaking the LAW. Statutes are NOT LAW. The Constitutions are the LAW.
Susanne says
The hate is coming from you gordo, your hate of country and rule of law only perpetuates our hate of those that choose to refuse to obey our laws and those like you who openly support them.
Just a thought says
Gordon. On an earlier post I suggested that a list of those opposing the deportation of illegal immigrant criminals be compiled. You seem very qualified and eligible to be on that list. Why don’t you save Sheriff Gahler time and expense and email him your address and provide him with the number of illegal criminals that you could house. Just a thought.
Greg says
You need to make an appointment immediately with a proctologist and have you head removed from where the sun “don’t shine! Then take your sorry a–s and move to Baltimore and build a wall.
Gordon Koerner says
Well I see the two Dagger idiots came back with their low level incompetent remarks.
SoulCrusher says
Gordon, you are such a moron that I almost feel bad calling you a traitor. You have obviously been educated by a Democratic re-education program and it might not be your fault that you actually believe in the idiocy of the Democratic Party. Look, read what Uncle Eddie says down the page and realize that you are a moron.
Gordon Koerner says
When people point out just how their own well being is in danger, they always attack the messenger. Call them names. Just when are these idiot republicans ever wake up. Your rights are slowly being taken away by lies and 1 or 2 incidents just because of the color of their skin. Racist bigots are what you are. Face the fact your total morons.
SoulCrusher says
Uh Gordon, You’re the one who started calling people names with “Well I see the two Dagger idiots came back with their low level incompetent remarks”. Remember, I have no problem with calling a DemoTraitor names, nor do I have any problem with calling Republicunts names as well. I am not a R or a D. I am an American and I give no consent to your two party system of treason. I have developed my opinion regarding “people of color” by what I have experienced while interacting with them. I really haven’t had any bad experiences with the Latino community and have no problem with them. However, the topic is Gahler and his enforcement of Federal Law and the affiliation with the Federal program, which receives Federal Funding, involving the enforcement of such law. Immigration is a Federal issue, not a State issue, but a Constitutional Officer following the Constitution should not be demonized by a scumbag traitor, such as yourself….
Susanne says
People like Gordo and his ilk have no problem with violating our fifth amendment rights by quote “nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation” or violating the
14th amendment “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property”
It is clearly spelled out that “born or naturalized” people are citizens of the United States
and the Dems and Gordo have bestowed onto these people that they are in fact citizens and deserving of every right and privilege’s to that of United States citizens.
His blatant disregard for the rule of law is in direct violation of our rights of live, liberty, pursuit of happiness and the Democrats policy of open boarders, unfettered illegal immigration and failure to enforce federal immigration laws flies in direct contrast to the 14th amendment “No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States” I their case their policies of sanctuary cities, catch and release and failure to report illegal aliens Federal authorities is a blatant violation of all citizens 14th amendment rights as their actions and inactions does abridge the privilege’s of the citizens of the united states and denies them of their right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
By taxing citizens to pay for the cost of laws which democrats refuse to enforce, by forcing citizens to live amongst illegal aliens and to grant voting rights to non-citizens by rendering my voting rights meaningless is also a violation of both 5th and 14th amendments.
Democrats should be prosecuted for treason and for high crimes against the citizens of the United States.
Gordon Koerner says
Yes. While 40% of Trump vineyard in Maryland are undocumented workers and illegal immigrants, you all over look that because it’s one of your own. Only Dem have to live by the laws quoted. Republicans can break the law all they. Just like in the Sun delegate Szeligia holds a news conference calling not to publicise Sanctuary Cities she is doing exactly what she is asking others not to do. Total bunch of hypocrites.
SoulCrusher says
I’m having trouble finding ANY information on a Trump Vineyard in Maryland. There is a Trump Winery in Virginia that is owned and operated by Eric Trump since 2012, but nothing on what you are talking about. Please provide a link to Trump Vineyard in Maryland and please provide proof that 40% of the workers are undocumented or illegal aliens.
mike humphreys says
Socialist, leftist, and Marxist in Annapolis, Maryland are having fun with our rights, making a mockery of what it means to being an American
Gordon Koerner says
Go ahead Mike blame everything on the opposite party, when actually it is your primitive thinking that is the problem. Maybe you want to be a racist all your life. That is your prerogative. Just stop blaming others for your own short comings for your lack of humanity.
Susanne says
Can’t win on the issues huh Gordo, the new democrat party has no more need for united states citizens and their right to free elections. You have to gerrymander districts and import millions of illegal aliens and keep them on the plantation, suckling at the democratic teat or else you will stop promising them freebees that you can never deliver.
African Americans have voted Democrat for years now and what has it gotten them? They are just as poor, their schools are in shambles, crime is out of control, trash and blight are everywhere and the elected officials are only out to enrich themselves through illegal means.
We welcome all minorities to the Republican party of law and order, the party of school choice, the party of less regulation, the party of peace through strength, the party that actually cuts taxes, the party of personal responsibility, the party of private health care not government healthcare, the party of legal immigration and the party that puts Americans First.
You will see record turn out for Trump by minorities in the election. All you is talk and deliver nothing.
Uncle Eddie says
Even non-citizens have rights.
But immigrants who cross the border illegally are criminals, and are subject to lose those rights.
There are laws in place to allow immigrants to enter legally.
ICE is just trying to enforce those laws, which they couldn’t do when Montgomery County released wanted MS 13 gang members who then murdered a girl.
That’s the kind of crap that happens when laws are ignored in a “sanctuary” county or state.
Gordon Koerner says
Your not my uncle. I wouldn’t want to be a relative to someone so closed minded. Ice is the Gestapo of this country. Any sheriff who backs them for the sake of money is worse. They are selling our democracy for the pieces of silver. The majority of those being rounded up by ICE and the sheriff are not criminals. What they are is money in their pockets and the prison system. They deport the parents and then turn around and make money by putting the children up for adoption. It’s such a shame that right under your noses this government is in human trafficking and you haven’t the slightest ideal of what they are doing.
Susanne says
Gordo put up or shut up, how about you post your address on this tread and we can go down to the local Home Depot and Casa De Maryland and let all the illegal aliens know that you have not only the home but the resources to feed, cloth, educate, shelter and finance them at your expense.
He doesn’t have the balls nor the willingness to do either.
Gordon Koerner says
Suzanne tell you what when you and other republicans start taking care of the children in this country, especially the ones that are forced upon women who then have to put them up for adoption, then maybe I might take your advice seriously. Till then your just another fear mongering Republican who doesn’t give a shit about life except your own.
Susanne says
you condone the killing children because women are too lazy to get on birth control or use a rubber
a baby born in the united states deserves to be killed and has no rights but illegal aliens should be given unlimited rights because they jump a fence and murders do not deserve to be put to death but you’re okay with killing babies
wow you really need a mental evaluation
Gordon Koerner says
Suzanne read your own gibberish if you can. It contradicts what your party stands for. Birth control and condoms are against the Republican Party principles. As far as abortions. Republicans will hide their abortions while anyone else can’t have an abortion.
SoulCrusher says
Gordon, please provide proof that Republicans hide abortions by members of their political party. Please provide proof that anyone else but a Republican can not have an abortion. Please provide proof that Birth Control and Condoms are against Republican Party principles. Remember, just because many Pro-Lifers are Republicans, it doesn’t mean that those same people are against Birth Control. The Catholic Church is against Birth Control, not the Pro-Life movement. Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic and this State is originally a Catholic Colony. I think you are confused. When you are this confused and the supposed facts you keep uttering amount to a crock of crap you really do look like the ignorant moron that we all know you are.
Gordon Koerner says
Here is the history of MS 13. Not in the article the Republican Party is using them to brain wash republicans with propaganda. Most of you fools are being used and you haven’t the brains to know it. Once you read this article (if you do) research all the gangs in this state and how much they have grown the past 3 years. There are many citizens in Harford County being killed by gangs and all you talk about is MS 13. You poor mislead souls.
SoulCrusher says
Gordon, how many citizens in Harford County were killed by gang members last year? Just for shits and giggles, how many people were murdered in Harford County last year? I think your Sheriff is doing an adequate job up there in Harford County and he is a definite improvement from the Democratic traitor against the United States, Jesse Bane.
Gordon Koerner says
By the way here is the information about the Republican Party propaganda .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-13
SoulCrusher says
I don’t think anyone doubts that when an MS13 member gets deported they tend to get more homicidal and violent because that is what goes on in their Countries of origin. When they make their way back here and cross illegally, they bring that violence back here. This isn’t propaganda. It is truth.
Simple Facts says
This guy spends more time doing state legislation. If he wants to be a delegate or senator he needs to go ahead and take that job. I think he may be good at it, in the meantime he has a Sheriff’s Office to run.
SoulCrusher says
Now for the Real truth that Gahler didn’t get into. The truth is that both of these bills that would in fact make Maryland a sanctuary state, are illegal and unconstitutional. The Federal government is responsible for uniform naturalization, which is immigration. The State of Maryland, nor any other State, has absolutely NO AUTHORITY ordained to them to create a sanctuary state. Period. End of discussion. If the Legislature and the Senate actually vote to do this, then that same body of government has committed treason against the United States Constitution and the Maryland Constitution. They would be in violation of their oath and in breach of the Constitutional contract making them ALL unemployed and they can NEVER hold public office again. This is the truth and I wish Gahler would just put it out there….
Gordon Koerner says
Here are some examples of what is happening around the country. They are all because of this president and law officers like 3 sheriff’s of MD. Actually what the president and these sheriffs are doing are trying to make laws against the people and the states are trying to prevent criminal acts by others against humanity. Soul Crusher go to the last paragraph it will show that you are full of shit. in your thinking. True immigration does belong to the feds, BUT no where in the constitution does it prohibit the states from making laws to protect the citizens in that state whether legal citizens or not.
While there is no legal definition for sanctuary policies, the term is applied to jurisdictions that limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities, such as failing to provide information about immigration status and limiting the length of immigration detainers.Jun 20, 2019
In May 2018, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit found that the law does not violate the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. In June 2019, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed a bill that bans sanctuary cities.
While the practice of churches offering sanctuary is still observed in the modern era, it no longer has any legal effect and is respected solely for the sake of tradition. Immunity to arrest afforded by a sovereign authority.
A number of major federal statutes, executive actions, and court decisions relating to immigration procedures, and enforcement have been enacted for the United States. … Established the rules for naturalized citizenship, as per Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, but placed no restrictions on immigration.
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (WREX) — Illinois House Democrats are moving forward legislation to make Illinois a sanctuary state for illegal immigrants. … The legislation would also bar law enforcement officials and agencies from inquiring about a person’s citizenship status.May 24, 2019
California Values Act (SB 54) … SB 54 ensures that no state or local resources are diverted to fuel any attempt by the federal government to carry out mass deportations and that our schools, our hospitals, and our courthouses are safe spaces for everyone in our community.
States retain plenary power to make laws covering anything not preempted by the federal Constitution, federal statutes, or international treaties ratified by the federal Senate.
SoulCrusher says
Gordon, there is nothing in the Constitution prohibiting the States from making law protecting individuals from these Federal laws because when it is listed as a Federal power the States must cede to the Federal law. There is no State authority regarding immigration and to give this State sanctuary status regarding this issue is unconstitutional. That which is unconstitutional is prohibited. So, yes, there is LAW prohibiting the States from become sanctuary States and protecting individuals, whom are NOT citizens, from the regulatory scheme duly ordained to the Federal government. By just testing the Constitution, the Maryland Legislature would be warring against the Constitution and that is treason. Uniform naturalization is immigration. End of discussion. Statutory law making a State in violation of that Federal power is not covered as a plenary power because it is prohibited. Have you ever heard of the Supremacy Clause?
SoulCrusher says
Just for the record, any other argument not classifying the uniform naturalization as immigration would be covered by the Commerce Clause. If they are not here seeking citizenship and would be disqualified from citizenship by undocumented entry, then they must be here for some sort of commercial gain. The Federal government controls the borders of our nation.
Gordon Koerner says
Your are wrong Soul.. That is the end of conversation on states rights. Roe vs Wade is settled law according to the supreme court. Yet the states continue to do away with settled law. Your words are nonsensical opinion.
SoulCrusher says
No. The Constitution is law and opinion is pointless. The States have no rights involving immigration because it is a listed Federal power in the Constitution which means the States must yield to the established Federal law. There is no authority to regulate the behavior of the people by the Federal government and that includes abortion and birth control. Roe v. Wade is case law, subject to litigation by varying arguments which could change outcomes regarding the subject. Look, Roe v. Wade is fine by me and I agree that a woman has the right to choose up to the first trimester. However, removing fully formed fetuses after the first trimester is in my opinion murder and an act of evil, unless certain circumstances exist which do NOT include the woman doesn’t want it. Viable options like adoption are available. Gordon, you’re just not right in the head.
WhatMattersisBlue says
When SoulCrusher submits a comment, it is a learning opportunity. Making a point without hostility and name calling is so easy to decipher.
“What is written is believed” So far, I agree and am on Team SoulCrusher.
What goes around... says
Psychotic paranoid delusional thinking. I think so!
What goes around... says
Sorry that was posted in the wrong place. It was meant for Gordon’s last post at 8:43 PM
WhatMattersisBlue says
What goes around, no need to apologize!! I realize that there is only one psychotic paranoid delusional thinker amongst us. My heart protects my ass from getting way ahead of my mouth. I keep irrational thought to myself. I am worried about Gordon. His lack of logical processing scares me. Don’t let up on him.
What goes around... says
It is going to be a hoot to watch how Mayor Lightfoot, Kim Fox, and former President Obama react to their boy Jussie Smollett possibly being re-charged for his criminal actions. It sure looks like the trio might have got called speeding on this one .Haven’t the Democrats been preaching that no one is above the law.
Gordon Koerner says
The really big question is Trump building up law indorcement in states, so if he looses in 2020 and refuses to leave he will have a police force, the military, and all the hate groups in this country surrounding the WH and will not leave. Radical thinking. I don’t think so.
MrMister says
Gordon, you have gone full-blown nuts. I seriously hope this is just someone pretending to be you. If not, you need mental health treatment ASAP.
WhatMattersisBlue says
Did you read that in a book or see it on the big screen? Is it possible that you really believe such a thing would happen?…..woke? or more coffee please?!?!
Gordon Koerner says
Both before Trump was elected in 2016 and during his term, he has made frequent references to “my 2nd Amendment friends” and increasingly the “patriots” who constitute the military.
As president, Trump has resisted any effort to curb citizen access to guns and ammo. He puts on a modest show of concern when a particularly bad gun massacre occurs but, in the end, he sees armed citizens as a significant personal asset.
I think the legal profession, finance, and corporate business would resist Trump’s efforts toward a coup. They need stability to make profits. Perhaps the biggest question concerns the military. Coups are usually backstopped by colonels, not generals. Thus, major barracks could provide him with support. Probably his best strategy to keep all levels of the military loyal to him rather than to the Constitution would be to embroil us in a major war.
I’m a leader. I’m a leader. I’ve always been a leader. I’ve never had any problem leading people. If I say do it, they’re going to do it. That’s what leadership is all about.
Here read the rest your self if your able to read and understand you have an evil person in the WH.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/opinion/trump-leave-white-house.html
Susanne says
The only thing you can lead is a good case of hemorrhoids
MrMister says
An opinion piece written by a former political editor of the Huffington Post. Yeah, nothing unbiased about him.
Gordon Koerner says
Yes we crazy democrats want Medicare For All.
While we take care of the Republicans who haven’t a simple ideal of how to really save money as taxpayers we will take care of you.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/15/sanders-applauds-new-medicare-all-study-will-save-americans-450-billion-and-prevent?fbclid=IwAR2KToMlY5_FttBj5N6r6gDIe25wxZwipGY4F04oQFsaecHxtXW-MhwOKEs
WhatMattersisBlue says
No thanks, Gordon. Anyone receiving Medicare will tell you that it sucks!
I do read at a graduate school level. It was nice of you to share the article that supports your idea that Trump is evil. Sorry, but I can’t wrap my head around the concept that supporting the military, law enforcement, and a citizen’s right to bear arms presents a danger to society.
Gordon Koerner says
Sorry you seem to look at issues with a closed mind. Seems many on here operate with a closed mind. Every time I write anything I am always attacked. Especially by soul. I do recognize he is one angry dude. Many others are just die hard republicans, with severely closed minds. Most can’t see the forest for the trees.
WhatMattersisBlue says
Gordon, I am not angry nor do I have a closed mind. I am actually a California flower child who once shared some of your liberal beliefs. Let’s agree to disagree and stop hurting each other’s feelings. Interesting how you think that comments come from anger when I am so impressed at how insightful and intelligent comments demonstrate our diversity. Facts are important; sarcasm can be humorous.
Bob says
WhatMattersisBlue, I’m curious. What “liberal beliefs’ have you rethought, changed and/or discarded since your days as a “California love child”?
WhatMattersisBlue says
Well Bob, I am now a conservative. I credit the change in my thinking and voting selection to life experiences. I am still a love child at heart and would hope that “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness” applies to all.
My biggest concerns are regarding illegal immigration, political corruption, and society’s negative attitude towards Law Enforcement. I do not like our enemies!
Gordon Koerner says
Okay Blue. From all my research with MD wanting Healthcare for all, the public comes out on top. Money is saved and healthcare is better. What I did find a state is at a disadvantage. It should be done at the federal level. I am one of those that think healthcare for all needs to be phased in over about 5 years. All research comes back it saves citizens money and they get better healthcare. I think hospitals and clinics will increase. When income becomes known that the bills will be paid. Private insurance companies will still be around for those wanting Cadillac plans. The important thing doctors and hospitals get paid. When they get paid prices can become more stable.
Susanne says
I don’t want the government involved in my healthcare. They are the reason heathcare is shit now. Hospitals and ERs have become another freebee for illegals. Hospitals are forced to treat these people who have zero money to see a doctor. They wait until their condition gets so bad they have to go to an ER. They pay shit and my insurance costs are inflated to cover the shitbags.
Solution = don’t come here illegally.
Gordon Koerner says
Suzanne wrong again. Insurance costs are not driven up by illegals going to hospitals. Hospital cost are going up because the hospitals are double dipping. The hospitals have set up an alumni based trust fund to pay the bills others can’t pay. They get their money, then turn around and claim loss of funds from unpaid bills.
SoulCrusher says
Gordon is kinda correct about this. Basically, health insurance costs have gone up because of the uninsured and it doesn’t matter about their immigration status. It only matters that they are uninsured. The hospitals don’t refuse people who can’t pay and then raise the costs on those who can pay to recoup their losses. Unfortunately, this is what has hammered the health insurance industry. However, if Gordon can’t see the burden on American citizens having to pay for undocumented and illegal aliens healthcare, then once again he is an idiot. They have never paid in, but always seem to get paid out. That is where the problem is. Bottom line is if you are NOT an American citizen then you shouldn’t be allowed to take from the system that American citizens pay in to. Maybe the States and the Federal government should set up a system just for non American citizens to have health insurance using funds taken from non American citizens when they pay taxes. Let’s be honest, unless you’re an American citizen you won’t be getting a social security check when you retire. Yet, we all know that the scumbags who run government will steal that too and it is because your government is a mafia. It’s kinda like how the prosecutors wanted to give Stone 7-9 years in jail for lying to the largest body of liars in our Country. The government is your enemy and you need to recognize this because they already consider you their enemy and are stealing from you every time you get a paycheck.
WhatMattersisBlue says
Gordon if you only knew how the quality of healthcare has suffered and become mediocre secondary to government involvement. What comes to mind is the closure of Psychiatric Hospitals and the integration of the mentally ill into group homes and neighborhoods. We are all living with the consequences of addiction, homelessness, increase in suicide, and increase in crime in our community. Treatment plans for medical conditions should always be decided in consultation with healthcare professionals in order to accomplish positive outcomes. In my opinion, government involvement has destroyed healthcare delivery and made it so expensive.
Gordon Koerner says
Blue looking at immigrants this president has lied daily and his program to get a handle on is really cruel. No human should be housed in cages built for 50 and there are 400 housed. No child should be separated from their parents. If it happened to anyone who writes here they would be outraged. Taking children 6 months old from parents. Send the parents back to their old country then turn around and put the child up for adoption is wrong. How can any one live with themselves when things like this happen to anyone. You may not know Soul and his problems with the county. He is a man filled with hate and anger. Now I wouldn’t know this except others who write here pointed it out and wrote in the past about it. Go back over what I post. He is always the first to respond and always shows some type of prejudice.
Susanne says
solution = don’t come here illegally
problem solved
Gordon Koerner says
Suzanne they are not here illegally. There are more people who came here on visa and work permits who are illegal then crossed the southern border. No one cares about them cause most are whites.
Susanne says
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/18_1214_PLCY_pops-est-report.pdf
The Governments own numbers are there about 12 million people are here illegally.
Bob says
Face it! The real danger for our country is the Corrupter-in-Chief, Donald J. Trump — not 12 million undocumented immigrants.
SoulCrusher says
Wrong Bob. The greatest danger to the Republic is the Democrat Party. Over and over, statutory law created by Democrats has routinely violated the rights of millions of Americans with the intention of making the people slaves to the government. That is the true danger to our nation.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, a few months backs you tried to convince me that “Statutes are NOT law” and yet now you are talking “statutory law created by Democrats”. You’re making progress. This “Demopatriot” is proud of you.
SoulCrusher says
Bob you are an idiot. Statutes are NOT law. They are the prima facia evidence of law and there must be a causation of harm creating a victim for a statute to be valid. Statutory law created by politicians is NOT law. It is political persecution. There is no such thing as a victimless crime and code violations only apply to government employees. Every government employee that applies statutory law that isn’t in compliance with the common law is committing treason and you are just never going to get it. You are just plain wrong….
Bob says
SoulCrusher, NO, YOU are talking “statutory law” Just when I thought you were improving, You, once again, start spewing forth a bunch of double-talk hogwash Come on let it go. Face it—You were wrong then and you’re wrong now.
The real Just for says
I got to ask Mr. Bob. How do you think your Demopatriots made out last night in the debates? I haven’t laughed that hard in a while. You and the rest of the TDS people better up their game or come November we might be setting up a go fund me account to pay your moving expenses. Which is your favorite Canadian province?
Bob says
The real just for, You laughed and I cried. I thought the debate was pathetic. What a waste of time. Instead of taking the opportunity to explain their policies they spent two hours attacking Bloomberg. It sort of reminded me of the 2016 Republican Presidential Debates.
SoulCrusher says
Bob, you have no idea what you’re talking about. If we are all to be afforded a common law trial, but the rights of the common law are not in play, then the statutory law is illegal. There is no such thing as a crime unless a victim is present. Statutory law is only applicable when a common law victimization occurs and when it doesn’t have that requirement, the conviction is an act of fraud, war and treason. That’s just the way it is moron.
Bob says
Soul Crusher.there you go again with that mumbo-jumbo stuff and of course your signature ‘tell’—childish name-calling.
SoulCrusher says
It isn’t name calling when it is a fact. Bob, you are a moron.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, You need to practice letting it go. Repeat 10 times—Bob is right and I am wrong. Each time it will get easier for you.
SoulCrusher says
My Constitutional mumbo-jumbo TRUMPS your Statutory jibber jabber everytime…
Bob says
Your right. Trump is my favorite pinata. Who knows, if I keep raising the alarm you might decide to take those blinders off and realize he is our country’s number 1 threat.
SoulCrusher says
The only one who has their blinders on is you. Your relentless fascism is so out of touch with what is American that the only obvious conclusion that reasonable people can make is that the Democratic Party is TREASON against the United States. Our Country’s number one threat is a two bit traitor that will emerge as the boil on the butt of the Democratic Primary….
Bob says
SoulCrusher, I guess we’ll have to add “fascism” to your litany of lunacy, along with your “treason & traitor” talk.
SoulCrusher says
Are you kidding me? The Democrat Party is currently a fascist political organization. Only nazified traitors against my Country, like you, can’t see that you are in fact trying to orchestrate the Fourth Reich. We fought World War II to stop people like you and now you Demtards are trying to fulfill Adolph’s dream. You are not making any sense and just because you believe in the legalization of treason against my Country, that doesn’t mean you idiots are going to talk me into being a traitor like you. You should be bound and gagged then hung by your neck until you’re dead. That is the punishment allotted to scumbag traitors and you are exactly that….
Fake Outrage says
Where you outraged when Obama did it? No? I didnt think so
SoulCrusher says
I don’t deny anything that you just wrote about me. However, before September 30th, 2009, I didn’t hate a single soul on this earth. After that date, I now hate the government and everyone who commits treason for that government. The problem is the government wants me to say I was wrong and apologize for the incidents of 2009, but I am not the one who broke the law and I can’t apologize to anyone because nobody was victimized by what the State claims I did. I don’t apologize to Judges who commit treason to falsely imprison me, steal my property and then coerce me into selling my business. If you can’t understand that then you’re just never going to understand me. I don’t support traitors and I don’t support political parties that have made statutes that allow treason to be used against the public in an effort to force people to do what they want. I will never forgive and I will never forget. It’s an eye for an eye or I can die…..that’s just the way it is.
Gordon Koerner says
Obama did it. Being naive is what many of you are.
Gordon Koerner says
Daily I am amazed at how naive so many of you are.
Do any of you really believe Trump is a multiple billionaire.
I don’t think he is even has a billion. No one as wealthy as he claims steals thousands of taxpayer dollars.
Oh, I know your words. Look at all the golf courses and building with his name on. Look at the vineyards. Look at all the property he has. Well folks each and everyone of them are owned by the bank owned by Russia. Deutsche bank.
You all have been conned by the best con artist the world has ever seen.
The newest book “The Dark Tower” will explain it all to you . It comes out tomorrow. Poor souls.
Susanne says
He is President and that is good enough for me.
Gordon Koerner says
You do mean he is occupying the office. He certainly isn’t a president. In fact he is most evil person to occupy such an office since Hitler.
SoulCrusher says
Oh, I see, because Congress created a statutory requirement as to how a foreign national can enter this Country and pursue a path to citizenship, he is evil for enforcing the law against those whom have entered without using a legitimate port of entry. Trump isn’t like Hitler in any way shape or form, but the Democratic Party has embraced the ideology of Hitler’s political views, except for they don’t want to imprison and enslave Jews, they want to do it to White Males. It is the Democratic dream to erase the white race that created this country. Remember, it was white legislators that made it possible for those of color to come here and become citizens in the first place. It was white legislators that gave those of color freedom and citizenship that were here when that option wasn’t available. The Democratic Party’s war on white America needs to stop. The vision was for us all to live here in peace with prosperity, yet Democrats will not let that happen. I find it ironic that Democrats don’t wish the slavery of white women as well, but that’s because those of color want to mate with them. You never see those of color calling women of color their trophy wives, do you? When you step back and see the big picture, it is obvious that Democrats hate white males and it amazes me when I see white people embracing the Democrat’s views. I have to try hard not to be racist, but every interaction I’ve had with those of color has led to believe they hate my people. I once had an employee that worked for me that used to say “White people got no reason to live” and “Black people are supposed to steal from white people because they white”. He ended up using company credit cards without authorization to buy his family a vacation at Disney world and executed company resources without turning in paper work or the money required to execute those same resources. As I have said before, my interactions with people of color have brought me to my opinions about those of color. I try to treat others as I want to be treated, but it is very hard for me to trust people of color because of my experiences. If you can’t understand that and think I am a racist, then so be it. I really don’t care anymore. I’m sure there are people of color out there that are trustworthy. Problem is I haven’t met them. Yet still I believe in freedom for all and don’t want to see my fellow man discriminated against because of their color, but I won’t trust a race of people that have personally shown me they are more racist than I could ever be….
Bob says
SoulCrusher, the views you express in your post are hate-filled and beyond disturbing. It’s blatant RACISM. What universe do you live in? Maybe you don’t ” “really care anymore”, but you should.
SoulCrusher says
There is nothing racist about those comments. I am expressing what I have experienced in my life and it is all TRUE. My former employee I refer to lives in YOUR county and he worked for me for two years. He never referred to me by my name and called me “Whitey” the entire time he worked for me. In the end he stole from me and my company and that is the TRUTH. People like you can’t handle the truth and deny the obvious truth. The State wouldn’t prosecute him for the obvious theft he committed, but wanted me to go along with prosecuting him for Credit Card fraud involving a client transaction, which was a lie and I told the prosecutor that before his trial and all the charges were dismissed. However, the State would NOT prosecute him for the real acts of theft he committed against me. Everything I have stated is the truth and you’re just a scumbag Democrat piece of shit.
Gordon Koerner says
Soul your are a total???? You keep using the Democratic Party of the 1700’s as your example for racism and slavery. That party happens to be the Republican Party of today. There was a big switch in parties in 1892 and again in 1910 as well as in 1964. In 1964 was the biggest drain of democrats to the republican party all due to the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That was one of the biggest drain and mostly in the south. It was that act that Nixon used his southern strategy to win the presidency the first time. And yes there are still democrats in the south who are actually the racist republicans and vote for republicans all the time. They are the old ones who just don’t want to change the label behind their name. They keep the D just to show people they aren’t racist. The same thing is happening in Harford County.
SoulCrusher says
Really??? Seems to me I was saying the Democratic Party of 2020 is mirroring the Pre-World War II German political party that demonized and blamed a certain race for all its troubles. That race is the white race and in my opinion the Democratic Party hates white males, yet tolerates white females for breeding purposes. Now you Demons from the Democrat party want to instill a known system of government that has failed virtually every time it has been used throughout history. If successful, it will lead to a totalitarian system of enslavement of my people. If you guys are wanting a civil war you certainly have found the correct path. As far as racism goes, as I said before, I don’t want to see my fellow man discriminated against because of their color, but I won’t trust a race of people that have personally shown me they are more racist than I could ever be…. Remember, I am one of those white fools that gave black men a chance and they proved I was stupid.
SoulCrusher says
It’s a German Bank and you’re an idiot. Gordon, the closest thing in this Country to what Hitler wanted is the Democrat Party that exists right now. You’re so confused you can’t even make a correct comment about virtually anything.
Gordon Koerner says
Soul you are like a clock. Your hands spin so much they are out of touch with what is happening elsewhere. The tic tic is driving you insane every time you write. Tic toc brain explosion.
Donald Trump is pure evil. Most mob bosses are. In fact some mob bosses are saints compared to Trump.
SoulCrusher says
So that is the great comeback after you claimed Deutsche bank is owned by Russia? Dude, give it up. You’re nothing but an idiot.
Susanne says
and a dickhead
Gordon Koerner says
Yes I know and have known that Germans own that bank.
Why I said Russia owns it is because Russian agents are cosigner on Trump loans.
Now that I explained the fine print to your simple mind, Trump is still a crook and he is pardoning many who were in prison.
Since no Republican who always talk of lienent sentences your all a bunch of hypocrites.
The entire Republican Party are crooks along with Trump.
Totally hypocrites.
SoulCrusher says
Even if a Russian has co-signed on a loan for a deal Trump Enterprises was involved with that still doesn’t make the Bank Russian owned. Please provide proof that Russians have co-signed on a business deal involving Trump’s businesses. Please provide proof that Trump could’ve gotten whatever it is your talking about accomplished using a domestic bank. Please provide proof that said such business deal actually exists and wasn’t just a proposal. Furthermore, please explain why you think a man should go to jail for 7-9 years, with no criminal history, for lying to the largest body of liars in this Country. Have you ever thought that maybe Trump is pardoning these people because they were illegally convicted by unconstitutional means? Can you explain why Democrats keep allowing legislation that allows the early release of dangerous criminals, but want to put people who have committed no crime in jail and exile them forever? Please explain why no one has embedded a claw hammer into your forehead for being a complete traitor to my Country.
Bob says
The issue of ‘bank ownership’, that you continue to harp on, is nothing more than a distraction. It is a red herring. What is relevant and salient is ‘who co-signed for Trump’s loan(s). As far as “proof” you’ll have to wait for Trump’s financial records to be released. However. what we BOTH know is that most likely some of his business loans were backed by Russian money and he is beholding to RUSSIA. You can take that to the bank!
I believe Stone’s sentence of 40 months in jail is appropriate (perhaps on the light side) for the crimes of OBSTRUCTION of a federal investigation, LYING to Congress & WITNESS TAMPERING. It’s really neither here nor there because the President will surely pardon Stone before he is voted out of office.
If you ‘really believe’ the President is pardoning people because they were ‘illegally convicted by unconstitutional means” I have a bridge to sell you. I guess you also believe Trump is concerned about “corruption” in Ukraine.
Come on SoulCrusher, your President is selling you a bill of goods and you’re buying it hook, line, and sinker.
SoulCrusher says
If you are NOT a government employee you are NOT beholden to the Rules and Regulations of the Federal government. End of story. 40 months in jail for lying to a bunch of traitors pretending to be a lawful government is outrageous. Democrats are trying to destroy everyone associated with TRUMP and it is because they are scumbag traitors. The “bank ownership” issue IS something to harp on because Gordon is using the issue to falsely claim that TRUMP is a Russian agent. The only people trying to sell the public a false narrative of the actual problem with this Country is the Democratic TRAITORS of America. Quite frankly, I’m on board for banning the Democrat Party on the grounds of complete and utter treason against my Country since 1945. Every Democrat is an ignorant TRAITOR against my Country wanting to allow The UN, THE HOLY SEE and the Nation of Palestine to make decisions for the people. If we don’t have FREE WILL we are NOT FREE and Democrats want us all to suffer as slaves to the government. Bob, I don’t like you and believe you’re a complete idiot. I will not accept the TREASON created by Democratic dirtballs and TRUMP gets four more years….
Bob says
SoulCrusher, I understand that you don’t like me. However, that’s your problem, not mine. I sincerely hope you can find some help.
SoulCrusher says
I don’t need the help. You do. You have aligned yourself with that which is treasonous and prohibited. This Democratic nonsense of controlling every aspect of the lives of people has gotten out of hand. The Democratic narrative of how things came to be and that they are trying to fix things is nothing but a fiction. You need to read Article 1 Section 8 and realize what your government is allowed to do. The Federal government can’t do things that are not listed in Article 1 Section 8. Then you need to read the Maryland Constitution and pay very close attention to the Declaration of Rights that you Democratic traitors have shit all over and realize that you are not right. You can’t be right because you’re so far left. You then want to claim that Trump has harmed YOU! Please explain what policy Trump has instituted that has harmed you. You do realize the Constitution prevents you from ANY harm caused by the government. You Democrats claim to be tolerant but you practice anything but tolerance. Bob, you need to get a grip because you really have no gripe. Now, if you think I need help because I believe in my Country and Constitution then I don’t think I am the one who needs help. Remember, the Constitution is the LAW and every Democrat that proposes to create statute to undermine that LAW is a TRAITOR to my Country.
Bob says
It always does my heart good when Trump self-destructs and attacks his own on Fox. (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-attacks-fox-news-neil-cavuto-at-rally-fox-personalities-immediately-jump-to-cavutos-defense)
SoulCrusher says
That’s because Cavuto profits heavily from Trump’s policies, yet wants to smear him on National TV on a daily basis. If you’re going to profit from TRUMP’S policies you need to shut your mouth and know your role. Cavuto should stick to the job he’s paid to do and that is to analyze the stock markets. Instead, he wants to help spread Democratic treason against my Country. THERE IS NO DEMOCRAT that is a viable alternative to Trump and that includes BLOOMBERG. Bernie is the only Democratic option and he can’t beat Trump. Americans will NOT let the government take over every aspect of our lives and that is what that little jewburger would try and do. At least Bernie tells the truth, except for the fact that ALL of his policies would never get passed by a do nothing Congress of traitors and thieves. Look, R & D elected officials ALL believe it is their job to USURP the American people and enslave the population. They just have different paths to that goal, but both paths include diminishing and abrogating the Constitutions, our rights and freedom on behalf of foreign nations and religions. That’s just the way it is and I don’t care about TRUMP poking fun at Cavuto.
jaipurfoot says
Bhagwan Mahaveer Viklang Sahayata Samiti (BMVSS) is the world’s largest organisation rehabilitating over 1.78 million amputees and polio patients by fitting/providing artificial limbs (Jaipur Foot variety), calipers, and other aids and appliances, mostly in India and also in 27 countries across the world.
It has its headquarters at Jaipur, India. It is a pan-Indian organisation having 23 branches, spanning Srinagar to Chennai and Ahmedabad to Guwahati. Metropolitan cities such as Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bengaluru, Varanasi, Patna, etc also have limb fitment centres of BMVSS.
Apart from providing the widest possible range of services for the disabled, BMVSS is also focused on research and development, and tries to combine service with science.
SoulCrusher says
???WTF???
JOYCE says
Soul Crusher, no one cares what your glassy tonsils think about this or Lent.
SoulCrusher says
I don’t know what Glassy Tonsils mean, I don’t do Lent and I don’t know why jaipurfoot posted the information about BMVSS in this article. Once again ????WTF???? Where you actually trying to make a point?
Gordon a Koerner says
earlier I posted that should Trump loose, he will refuse to leave the WH.
Most of you jumped on me. Well here is an example of what I feel republicans will do. Simply because they don’t believe in the law and believe they are above the law.
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Ken Cuccinelli said he will not leave his post as acting deputy secretary at the Department of Homeland Security following a federal judge’s ruling that he was illegally appointed to lead a department agency, a position that helped qualify him for his current role.
A federal district court judge in Washington, D.C., ruled that Cuccinelli, who was acting director of the 19,000-person USCIS from last June until January, did not meet the requirements in the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 to have the job. The judge’s decision deemed Cuccinelli’s policy changes invalid, teeing up new legal troubles for the Trump administration.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cuccinelli-refuses-to-leave-dhs-after-judge-finds-he-was-illegally-appointed-to-his-prior-role-there/ar-BB10DQyp
SoulCrusher says
The Judge did NOT order him to vacate his position. The Judge is trying to be an activist and hold up policy from his last position, not his current position. This is all due to procedural issues involving his last appointment and I think you are trying to make the man out to be a criminal. It has nothing to do with his current position and just because his appointment may have been procedurally illegal, it doesn’t mean he did something illegal, especially if he is acting on policy being dictated to him in the first place. Does it matter if it is Cuccinelli or Joe Schmoo if it is an administrations policy that is going to go in effect anyway? Just another nothing burger…..