From Harford County government:
Harford County Executive Barry Glassman announced today that the Maryland Court of Special Appeals has ruled in the county’s favor in the long-running legal matter brought by Maryland Reclamation Associates, Inc. (MRA).
The case stemmed from the efforts of MRA in the early 1990s to establish a rubble landfill near a community on Gravel Hill Road outside of Havre de Grace. The county denied a number of MRA’s applications for zoning variances that were required to move the project forward. The corporation appealed the variance denials to the state’s highest court, and in 2010 the Maryland Court of Appeals ruled that the county was within the law in denying the zoning variances.
MRA filed a lawsuit in the Circuit Court in 2013 claiming that the county’s denials of zoning variances and the enactment of county council legislation had devalued the property. Last year a jury ruled that the county must pay $45.4 million in damages to MRA, despite the fact that the county filed a number of motions to have the lawsuit dismissed. One of those motions was based on the fact that the statute of limitations had run out from the time of a previous ruling to the 2013 filing of MRA’s lawsuit. The Court’s opinion today agreed with that motion, and it has instructed the Circuit Court to vacate last year’s judgement.
Commenting on the opinion, County Executive Glassman stated:
“I am happy that the Court of Special Appeals agreed with us that MRA’s 2013 lawsuit came well past the deadline for making such a filing. I hope that this puts an end to this long-running matter once and for all, and I am pleased not just for the residents of Gravel Hill, but for all Harford County taxpayers.”
Gordon Koerner says
Okay so the MD court of appeals case go to the country. Will this case go to the Federal Appeals court or will the Supreme Court take it up. Just asking?
SoulCrusher says
No. It’s a local matter involving zoning issues that the Federal government has no authority over.
Just the facts says
Not anymore, it has turned into a matter of legal proceeding, did you read the article?
SoulCrusher says
Are you serious? The Federal Government does not have jurisdiction of the situation and more than likely will not intervene. Motions can be filed and lawsuits can commence, but if you think they will amount to anything other than an attorney getting rich you’ve done bumped your head.
John P. Mallamo says
Mr. Koerner,
Sir, you pose a very interesting question. Mr. Soul Crusher’s answer is partially correct, However, his answer does not account for a very recent U. S; Supreme Court Decision, Knick V Scott Township of PA, (June 2019), regarding a taking by local government, and whether the case could be heard in Federal Court, before hearings in State court.
I have not seen nor read the decision from the Court of Special Appeals, and so cannot make a direct comparison between KNICK and this case. This case will be interesting to watch.
THNX
MALLAMO
SoulCrusher says
You mean the same Supreme Court that just ruled in favor of dual sovereignty and disregarded the double jeopardy clause of the 5th Amendment? That Court is now lost and is nothing but an instrument of treason to the United States. Did you really think putting Justices in that Court that claimed they would follow the Constitution meant they would actually do what they claimed?
Cdev says
SCOTUS is the only place it could go and they would only do so if thier was a Federal Constitutional issue which thier isn’t! Usually they do not get involved in state issues.
Truth Be Told says
Corruption at its best in Haford County……
Minion says
I am not disputing that there is corruption in this (or any) government, but I don’t see where it fits in here. Maybe my understanding of the article is flawed. My overly simplified take, based on the article is this:
1) MRA wanted to turn property they own near HdG into a landfill, but the zoning laws wouldn’t allow it.
2) MRA asked the county to change the zoning so they can create their landfill
3) County said, “No.”
4) MRA said, “Well, then you owe us $45M for the money we would have made if you would have changed the rules to let us build our landfill.”
5) Court tells MRA, “Too bad.”
What am I missing?
??? says
I believe the issue is that the property was purchased under the correct zoning, and that the zoning was changed AFTER they submitted and had an approved plan from the county. Does anyone know with certainty?
John P. Mallamo says
Mr.,Mrs., Miss, Ms Minnion
Mr.,Mrs., Miss, Ms ???
At this point in my life I have no certainty on of any issues of very much importance, and so approach your postings with trepidation. It would be difficult to summarize 30 years of litigation in the space allocated by the DAGGER. You both have correctly stated elements of the case at hand. MRA went thru the extant zoning process, secured an MDE permit for their rubble fill, and the county included the rubble fill in the Harford County Solid Waste Management Plan. You would have to check the exact chronology of events with some of the various cases filed. Shortly afterwards, election results changed the County Council. The new council undertook to eliminate the MRA project from the Solid Waste Management Plan, and also changed the zoning code related to rubble fills. Multiple challenges followed. The most recent decision in the Court of Special Appeals did not rule or order that there was no taking, only that MRA waited too long to file.
Interesting to read the Harford County Solid Waste Management Plans from 2005 to present. Both had comments related to the MRA Project. From reading the Plans, it appears that both the County and the Maryland Department of Environment did not consider the2007 final decision of the Zoning Board of appeals a final decision on the zoning issues presented. Both were waiting for the decision of the Courts. It also appears that MDE did not take a final action until after the 2010 decision in the Court of Appeals. It is easy to see how a reasonable person would have concluded that the 2007 decision of Zoning Board of Appeals was stayed pending the final decision of the courts.
THNX
JOHN P. MALLAMO
Minion says
Thank you for the backstory, John. It makes more sense now.
KKK says
Specials Victims Unit Season 4 Episode 3 is highly applicable to our favorite HCSO crook…..Almost as if they know his story……
TRUCKERTWO says
Who does the bell toll? The bell tolls for thee. Soon he shall find out what all the years of deception will lead to. We cant wait.
Gary says
So with this ruling, the courts have made acceptable ex post facto laws.
This is simply unacceptable.
Truth be Told says
You don’t think they didn’t rig this? A jury ruled. I hope they pursue it into Federal Court and show the corruption in this county. The politicians and lawyers find some loophole not to do the right thing. God only knows what this is costing Harford County Taxpayers.
Cdev says
No they said MRA waited to long!
SoulCrusher says
If the individuals that own MRA sue the State in their proper person while invoking Article 19 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights, I don’t see why they would not prevail. The issue wouldn’t be that of Statute anymore and would fall solely on the Constitutional laws of this State. There is no statute of limitations involving that which is not a statute. Statutes are the “prima facia” evidence of law and aren’t really law at all. The Constitution is Supreme and that includes matters involving the State Constitution, which this issue clearly does….
Cdev says
The problem is MRA is an LLC and as such that is not an option. They can’t have protection of their individual property from business loss and than be a person when it is convenient! The law establishes a period of time to make a claim and they exceeded that time. MRA didn’t like being told NO and losing in court the first time so they sued 3 years after the fact for loses in property value. They should have filed right away!
SoulCrusher says
Well, that’s kinda what I was implying by saying they can get the actual value from the State and not an as if value. Let me be very clear. The State is a mafia. It conducts terrorist operations against its own people and at the people’s expense. There is no honor or integrity thru any action of the State and the corporation that the State is in itself, is treasonous to the people of Maryland. The elected office holders of this State are not our leaders. They are Representatives and are supposed to represent the people, not the State. The individuals of the MRA have every right to demand compensation from the State involving the actual worth of the property and no amount of legalese mumbo jumbo changes that. There is NO statute of limitations regarding these rights because the rights are not a creature of statute.
John P. Mallamo says
Mr. CDEV
Mr. Soul Crusher
Gentlemen,
I submit these two points for your consideration and further discussion.
1. The recent US Supreme Court Decision in Knick seemed to open the door for plaintiffs in 5th amendment takings cases to litigate in Federal Courts, prior to exhausting all remedies in State Courts.
2. The Court of Special Appeals decision appeared to turn on an interpretation of the Harford County Zoning Code, §267-9J. The question is whether their rights were protected while they appealed other aspects of their case. The answer could have some unanticipated consequences for Harford County Property Owners
This should be an interesting case to watch. Particularly those aspects related to the Harford County Zoning Code, its interpretation and application.
THNX
JOHN P. Mallamo
Cdev says
The state never took thier land. There is a value for the land the state pays if it does take land via eminent domain. That is on their tax bill. If MRA is claiming the land is worth more they owe some back taxes.
Mike Callahan says
Is our racist President Trump going to tell his slum landlord son Jared Kushner to clean up his rats-riddled apartments in Maryland?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kushner-baltimore-rodents-rats/
Little Lady says
20 years of Harford County laws make corporations the winners in an agricultural world destroying the earth as only they can do so fast and so corrupt…
Man is a cancer on this earth and it is found in Harford County to be long history of proof of corruption…
big mac says
Mary REC. Assoc. is a front for corrupt corporate fleecing of Harford taxpayer dollars…
Crooks, police, gov. officials, corporate interest all benefit from the MRA…the taxpayer is killed, devalued, run out of town, terrorized, vandalized, property damage, vehicle collisions and constant traffic law violations are the contributions from the MRA…
Nothing but a bunch of you know what…
If you value yourself and your possessions stay out of corrupt Harford County. Period. It’s the worst.
SoulCrusher says
Agreed. Harford County should be avoided like a plague. There should be warning signs for people just passing thru Harford County. I won’t even step foot in or drive thru that treasonous County. I will go up 83 and go far out of my way just to avoid Harford County. If you step foot in or travel thru Harford County you are putting yourself and your family at risk. Don’t do it. Go around it. It is not worth the risk.
Forever Amber says
As a 40+ year resident of Harford County, I am offended by your remarks that this county should be avoided like the plague. There is much to recommend it.
However, Glassman and cronies are not among them. The problems with this county stem from the “line my pockets first” approach to county government by its elected officials.
What this county needs is a clean sweep in the next several elections to rid itself of its current bevy of politicians. It will take several elections because Glassman is not due for re-election until 2022.
In the interim, I pray that there will come forth a new selections of qualified, motivated and enlightened candidates for the elected offices of Harford County.
I address the following to the citizens of Harford County (including members of the Armed Forces): “Now is the time to express your dissatisfaction about the current state of affairs in this county. Write, phone, visit our elected officials. Let them know that you are unhappy with their management of this county. Let them know they will be removed from office (fired without reference) if they don’t start representing the actual residents of this county and not the various outside monied interest that would trash this county just to make a buck.”
SoulCrusher says
You can be offended, but I am giving others a very good piece of advice. Why should they travel thru a County that is treasonous and put themselves at risk? I didn’t come up with the nickname “Hazzard County” and even though Boss Hog isn’t there anymore the disease known as Eaves is just as bad….
Truth be Told says
Spot on….dont stop in Harford County it is a shit hole…..
Truth be Told says
Be offended if you like, but the advice is very good. If given the chance I personally will work to see APG closed and removed from this county. Corruption is rampant to include HCSO and its present and retired police officers.
Cdev says
APG is owned by the federal government their are sovereignty issues
Truth be Told says
Cant get nothing by you…..Bless Your Heart
Ever hear of BRAC? There will be another BRAC and when it happens APG will be on the list. Watch and see…..
Cdev says
Given the new Joint FBI ATF DOD facility on the base I doubt it will be closed. ECBC is solidly needed. Additionally selling the land would have problems with the unexplored ordinance.
Truth Be Told says
CDEV don’t be so naive….The new Joint facility can remain without APG. Unexploded ordinance? Please….not an issue either.
Follow The Money says
The wife of outgoing state Delegate William H. Cox Jr. lent an undisclosed sum of money to Richard D. Schafer, the president of the company seeking permits to start an asbestos rubble fill near Havre de Grace, a recent deposition given by the state delegate shows.
Cox, a District 34 Democrat, said in the deposition that while
he signed a bank agreement to be a guarantor of an $800,000 loan forthe company, Maryland Reclamation Associates Inc., he decided not tobe a shareholder. That decision meant that he would be one of the parties responsible for repaying the loan if the company defaulted, buthe would not share in company profits.
Cox said he “closed the door” on being a shareholder in the company in October 1989, about fourmonths before signing the guarantor note.
But Cox said in the deposition he was uncertain whether he had signed any loan guarantees for MRA apart from a $800,000 bank loan for the rubble fill project. “Idon’t believe so, but I’m not sure,” he said in response to the question.
Cox said in an earlier deposition, taken in July 1990 in connection with a suit MRA filed against the county government, that he signed an agreement Feb. 9, 1990, with Bank of Maryland-Harford County to be one of four guarantors of the $800,000 loan to MRA.
Tina Ruth says
Good. I am tired of the turds on this page whining, particularly Soul crusher the Liberal. Good job, Barry Glassman.
SoulCrusher says
You’re a fuktard….
Tina Ruth says
You’re a liberal lesion.
Truth Be Told says
Did you come up with that all on your own, or did someone help you?
SHIRLEY says
MEAN!!!!
Truth Be Told says
We shouldn’t call it like it is now should we…..lest someone becomes butt hurt…..
John P. Mallamo says
Very interesting comment from Mr. Glassman. He does not deny that property was taken. Nor did the Court of Special Appeals in their ruling, and order. Mr. Glassman seems to be saying that the county took the property, but does not have to compensate the owner. Sorry for your loss. Not very reassuring to property owners in Harford County. It occurs to me that any property owner who has been recently affected by land use decisions in Harford County would file a claim for compensation under the takings clause, and request a stay. The case that comes to mind immediately is the Fairview Farms LLC solar panel decision.
THNX
JOHN P. MALLAMO
SoulCrusher says
I’ll agree that MRA must be compensated for any property that was taken, but it must be what it is worth and not what it could be worth if MRA had done such and such. This is a Constitutional right guaranteed by the Maryland Declaration of Rights and there is no such thing as a statute of limitations regarding Constitutional rights. The Constitution and the Maryland Constitution are LAW, not statutes.
SHIRLEY says
You are a poopyhead.
Truth Be Told says
Why of course…..Corrupt politicians making poor decisions are an everyday event in Harford County. How you over rule a Jury verdict is quite troublesome for everyone in general. Not surprising however given what happens in this Poop Hole.
The Good Old Boys ride again.
Prestone Flavored Meatballs says
Derp.
Mike Callahan says
Fox News is a White Nationalism Manifesto.
Just for says
Like I posted on July 31st “when all else fails play the race card. Classic left wing liberal Democratic strategy. You don’t know how to defeat President Trump. You can’t beat him and you know it. All you got left is race. Twist every statement, every incident , even if it has nothing to do with race or bias,, and try to play that card. Liberals and Democrats don’t care about anything terrible that could happen to our people or our country as long as President Trump goes down. It is getting the point that they are actually trying to promote a future civil war. Very sad.
SoulCrusher says
Agreed. They just can’t wait to turn this country into the Fourth Reich….
Just for says
What does that mean? I don’t understand your comment Soul.
Just for says
@ SoulCrusher
My last post was on August 5th at 8:44 PM. I don’t know who the bean head is posting under my name. For the record I think you are one of the few posters that understands the real world. You got balls. I like that. Mike Callahan seems to me to be just another liberal without a clue. He probably won’t post again because his mother had just told him to step away from his computer and wash up for dinner
Mike Callahan says
The El Paso Manifesto is filled with white nationalist (racist) diatribes against “race-mixing” and the “Hispanic invasion of Texas”.
SoulCrusher says
and the manifesto itself said very plainly that the shooter had these ideals before Trump ever came along….
Sword of Light says
And the psycho in Ohio was a Liz Warren supporter and Antifa nut. What’s your point?
Minion says
Mike Callahan, do you even read these articles before you smear your troll feces all over the comments? I don’t know if anyone else views the videos you post (I certainly do not), but what does it have to do with a dispute over a landfill in Harford County? We have enough dissent locally. Keep your national level hate to yourself.
Just for says
Well, lets just call it a day. My bf is getting ready to come home and I have to go now. tata
North Harford Democrat says
Another week goes by and sure enough, crazy white males with their semi automatic rifles.
Open Your Eyes says
Night after night week after week you have drive by and other shootings in our cities and urban areas killing thousands every year. A disproportionate amount of the assailants were black. Many with semiautomatic pistols and weapons. Check out Chicago stats this weekend. How about the tragic death of that beautiful little girl in Baltimore during a drive by shooting. By the way the suspect was a young black male. How come NHD and other liberals never speak of these horrific events. Enough of this black lives matter stuff. ALL LIVES MATTER!!! Get over the politics. Offer some viable solutions. Stop trying to fuel racial divide. People of all colors are dying everyday senselessly. Be a Trump hater if you want but stop hoping for personal tragedies to support your politics.
Just for says
Wow, are you trying to offend someone? It didnt work…its flush a conservative’s head in the toilet day….
Just the says
August 6th 5:45 PM was my last post. Again some bean head using my screen name. Mike Callahan is that you you sneaky little fart? Lol
SoulCrusher says
Yeah that is an issue and I’m white so it really bothers me. Just imagine if they actually had an Assault Rifle and not a semi-automatic rifle…..
North Harford Democrat says
All crimes involving guns are horrific, it’s just the fact that legally and illegally obtained rifles like the AR-15 and it’s copies have been used by a single person for the MOST horrific crimes involving a gun.
Where we’re all the gun enthusiast with a carry permits in Ohio and Texas?
Just for says
No where to be seen. That’s where. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Then again, people cant kill people with guns if they don’t have them. Problem solved.
SoulCrusher says
and the people can’t protect themselves from the tyranny of a centralized government without them. New problem created.
LOL says
If your fat ass with orange dick beating fingers from cheetos thinks a gun gives you a chance against a well trained government military you are a bigger joke than we thought.
North Harford Democrat says
Most firearm enthusiast/hobbyist I’ve encountered are all law abiding family type people with careers, mortgages, good image withing the public
They all respect the military, police and would most likely, and eagerly turn in their firearms quickly if there was a hypothetical law requiring them to do so or face criminal charges.
SoulCrusher says
and that is where the true problem lies. The Federal government isn’t supposed to regulate firearms and it is because you can not prevent the tyranny of a centralized government without firearms. Gun regulation may be a State power, but not a Federal power. Did you even go to school? Did you fail or forget history class? Or are you just willing to give up every right that those whom came before fought and died for? We respect the military because they are honorable. We respect police when they are acting within their authority to enforce the common law. However, we don’t respect police when they are enforcing Federal law, disguised as a State law and instituted with bribery, that gives the Federal government an authority that was not ordained to it. I think if the Democrats ever pass legislation to steal the gun rights of Americans ever come to fruition, you will see a lot of stand offs and a lot of cops killed. Remember, there is NO Police Power granted to the Federal government and all Federal agencies should be considered as MILITARY agencies whom are NOT allowed to conduct MILITARY action against WE THE PEOPLE to enforce an authority NOT ordained to them by the people. It’s not rocket science. Read your Constitution. Refresh your memory of our Country’s past. It is plain as day….
Cdev says
Pretty sure the Malitia is to be well regulated!
SoulCrusher says
None of us are part of a militia without an emergency declaration involving our Country or our State being under attack. Unless you are conscripted or volunteer yourself into service you aren’t part of any militia. If WE THE PEOPLE must rise up to put down a tyranny, we must then regulate ourselves. Until that time, your comment means absolutely nothing and the militia act isn’t applicable. Quite frankly, you can regulate these nuts….
SoulCrusher says
@ LOL – I’m not sure if you’re talking to me, but I’m going to field this comment with an answer. The Federal government can not instruct the military to conduct any operations against the public to enforce a power and authority that was not ordained to the Federal government. If this occurs, then those whom have issued the order are committing treason, defined by Article 3 Section 3 of the US Constitution and can be sentenced to death. Furthermore, the same thing applies to any military personnel whom carry out that order. The members of our military have taken an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies foreign and domestic. When the government tries to do something without Constitutional Authority, involving military personnel waging war against WE THE PEOPLE, that government has become an enemy of the people in a domestic setting. What I’m trying to tell you and the rest of the people whom have been betrayed by false education of the treasonous Democratic Party is that the Federal government can’t use the military to enforce that which was not ordained by the people and our elected representatives are not the people. They are supposed to represent us, not lead us or enslave us to the legislatures wishes. You have forgotten whom we are. The military will not take part in an illegal fight against the public because it is treason and every member of the military should stand down. Those that don’t will be execute by Article 3 Section 3 provisions and there is no statute of limitations or immunity to save their treasonous asses. That’s just the way it is.
Just for says
Why did you pick the name Soul Crusher?
SoulCrusher says
Because the government has and continues to try and crush my soul, so I intend to crush the soul of every one of them who has done unto me which they are forbidden to do.
Just for says
Thanks for sharing on the name choice.
Truth Be Told says
Well trained Government Military? Your joking right? Granted they have much bigger weapons than everyone else, but majority of them cant hit the side of a barn if asked to.
Open Your Eyes says
NHD,
It is interesting to me that you did not attempt to inject race in to your post this time. I guess when you got caught speeding in your last post with your pathetic attempt at race baiting you attempted to choose your words more cautiously. Thanks for that. I can respect your opinion about semiautomatic weapons but not your attempts as a liberal Democrat to cause additional and unnecessary racial divide.
For the record I am not a “gun enthusiast “. I own one sidearm which was a career duty weapon which was given to me as a retirement gift. I do possess a LEOSA carry permit. (Law Enforcement Officer Safety Permit) You can research that further on your own time. I just wanted to share with you an incident that happened to me approximately one month ago at a Baltimore area 7-11 store about 1AM. I just completed a plain clothes security detail in the city. In case you were not aware I am in my mid 60s and I guess a guy that looked like an easy mark. I was approached by 4 young men on the lot who said “I know an old white man with a nice car has got money give us your money and your keys” I said “come on guys”. At that point two of them walked toward me and said “you heard me mother f——r”. At that point I lifted my shirt exposing my sidearm. They backed off saying “it’s cool we were just joking “ I got in my car and left. The long and the short of things I guess a became as you say “a gun enthusiast “ that morning.
WTF? says
Cool story, bro.
Well, someone with a Maryland Permit to Carry a handgun did the same thing you did and was not so lucky with local law enforcement.
https://mdcoastdispatch.com/2019/07/10/fishing-pier-assault-involves-knife-gun/
WTF? says
Cool story, bro.
Well, someone with a Maryland Permit to Carry a handgun did the same thing you did in Ocean City recently and was not so lucky with local law enforcement.
Enjoy.
Feel free to Google the incident yourself, it’s probably the first dozen or so results.
Their There says
“Open your eyes”
Sounds like you should find another retirement job. 60 year olds working “plain clothes security” at 1am in Baltimore City.
Did this interaction you have happen inside or outside? I’m only going to comment on the fact you could have put your “brothers and sisters” on blue in a VERY bad spot. If those gentleman called emergency services “man with a gun” not only did you have a gun, now there’s a He said/she said debacle. Do you think responding Police Officers care who you are/what jobs you worked before?
I had a co-worker tell me one time he was driving behind a car that started to side swipe parked cars on a street and then proceed to crash through someone’s front lawn/shrubs/bushes. The first thing he told me the driver said when he got out was “I’m a retired police officer” and subsequently he also told the non retired Police Officer who was adjusting a pair of metal bracelets this drunk gentleman was wearing behind his back.
Why do you think this guy kept mentioning he was a “Retired Police Officer?”
Their hear says
I mean surely he wasn’t saying he was a “retired police officer” to get out of trouble right? LOL
Open Your Eyes says
@Their There
Just for clarification purposes, my position involves the monitoring of surveillance equipment. I drive to the location and work inside of a secure office. I do not do hands on physical security but I do appreciate your concern. The incident occurred on the outside parking lot. I carry my sidearm most of the time pursuant to and for the reasons LEOSA was established. As for putting fellow officers at risk for my actions I understand where you might be going but I am curious how you would have handled my situation. The intentions of these thugs were quite clear. They intended to rob me and take my car. I saw no other reasonable alternatives to the situation. If I were an unarmed citizen I am quite sure that, based on their youth and numbers, they could have accomplished their goals and I could have been seriously harmed or worse. The display of the weapon was limited to lifting my shirt exposing a holstered sidearm. I accomplished my objective and was not harmed. If law enforcement would have rolled up I would be totally compliant and followed every direction. For the record, I don’t think you give “responding officers” enough credit. They are professionals and I am quite sure have handled many similar incidents. Furthermore. I am well aware of the he said/she said scenario. No weapon was displayed by the individuals. It was still an implied “strong arm” robbery. I and you both know in the absence of independent witnesses there was basically no way to prove their intentions. I was quite happy to be able to leave safely without being victimized. The purpose of my prior post was to make a point to NHD who took a shot at “permit carrying gun enthusiast “. In over 34 years of law enforcement I was fortunate to never had taken a life. As far as the incident at the 7-11 I feel that although my options were very limited my actions were prudent and justified. If you were or are a cop you know the number one rule…..go home safe. Beyond that we can agree to disagree. Stay safe.
Superman says
He must be a former HCSO…..that or MTA Police…..Because he appears as stupid as a box of rocks. Dam lucky those kids weren’t strapped. Any bets he has an active imagination and this never happened? After all he is retired with nothing better to do.
Kryptonite says
Just curious Superman or Robocop. If you were involved in a similar situation how would you handle it? Would you have started blasting? Would you offer oral sexual favors? Would you have given up your car and money? What would someone that was smarter than a box do?
Superman says
Not a box…..stupid as a box of rocks. Personally I think he is making it up, but never can tell.
Kryptonite says
You obviously have serious doubts that the incident actually occurred and that is fine. I am still very curious how you would have handled the same situation if it really happened to you.. You took some cheap shots sat two police departments and maybe you have your reasons but you never answered my question on how you would handle it. I am appealing to a person that comes off that he is smarter than a box of rocks
Superman says
I would have shot their ass….If you decide to brandish you better pull the trigger. That’s me. I still don’t think this dumb ass is telling the truth.
If one thinks that flashing a gun at someone in Baltimore will scare them you should think again.
SoulCrusher says
You can’t start shooting at people unless they actually commit a crime. At the point he “brandished” his weapon, no crime occurred and he just let it be known he was armed. Your response of shooting would have been illegal and against the common law. That’s why you don’t have a permit to carry like he does.
Kryptonite says
I am not a police officer but know a lot of them from different police departments. I ran the incident by them.They all said they pulled their guns hundreds of times but in almost all cases didn’t have to pull the trigger. They said someone that pulls the trigger every time their gun comes out is scary and shouldn’t carry a gun or a badge. Maybe if he really is Superman and his X-ray vision would spot the criminals gun and the shooting would be okay. They said they hoped he didn’t work for Baltimore City because Marilyn Mosby would love him. He seems to have a real problem with the Harford County Police. Maybe They wouldn’t hire him. Maybe they arrested him or someone close to him. Who knows?
Superman says
Kryptonite you sure make a lot of assumptions don’t you? Brandishing a weapon by pulling up your shirt is a sure way to get killed. That is the way he described it if I recall. Of course HCSO has history making stupid errors and getting their officers killed. So perhaps this is just one more example of the poor training and experience in their department. Yes I have a problem with Harford County Police because they are largely incompetent buffoons. They wouldn’t hire me huh…..I wouldn’t work for them because of their history and record. That’s a good way to die working for HCSO. God Bless Your Heart!
Superman says
He kept mentioning he was a retired police officer because he is a dufus. He is likely part of the Keystone Cop brigade in Harford County.
PO PO says
Probably a Seargent who was busted to a Corporal.
Rjbaskins says
9 days and counting
Superman says
Really…..what you counting? Don’t run out of fingers and toes.
SoulCrusher says
He’s counting the number of days it has been since the Dagger has posted a new article on its pages. It really doesn’t matter because the Dagger Reader’s turn every article into whatever they feel like, discussing issues that have nothing to do with the article and normally bringing politics into the fold. I myself like changing the topic into something that everyone should be aware of and relate to. That topic is the false and treasonous government of this State and Country who is trying to rule all of us thru the use of Codes, Rules and Regulations of government employees, yet we are NOT government employees at all. That’s the bottom line and I don’t care what anybody thinks about what I just typed.
Just for says
Sooo…if you don’t care what anyone thinks about what you typed, then why did you post it? Seems to me you could have written it on a piece of paper and left it on your kitchen table. Maybe you do care and are waiting for reaction.
SoulCrusher says
No. That’s just the way it is and I don’t care what anybody thinks about it or how they react. It is what it is. Treason is treason.
Rjbaskins says
When you can’t argue the facts about what I wrote, you have to resort to insults
Superman says
Did you run out of fingers and toes? Sorry I didn’t know you were an amputee.
Minion says
10 days now…I guess Harford has been standing still? It’s pretty sad. The Dagger used to be neat source for what was happening around the county. Now it seems like a poorly updated police blotter, with the comments section dominated by Mike Callahan’s random “White man bad; Orange man worse,” clips and name calling over stupid disputes that have nothing to do with the articles. It has become a predictable troll sewer. 🙁