From Congressman Andy Harris:
Congressman Andy Harris, M.D. (MD-01) made the following statement about the release of findings by Special Counsel Robert Mueller on the 2016 presidential campaign for President Trump:
“The United States government has spent two years, $25 million dollars, and a ridiculous amount of wasted time and energy on a special counsel that has officially exonerated the president from allegations of collusion with the Russian government during his 2016 presidential campaign. According to the Attorney General, there was no collusion between President Trump and the Russian government, and there was no obstruction of justice. Now it’s time to move on and take care of the things that the American people really care about, like the economy and border security.”
Jim says
Actually it didn’t. Mueller just didn’t form an opinion either way. He certainly didn’t 100% exonerate Trump or any of his unindicted close associates of anything either.
Collusion isn’t a crime anyway. Trump just started using that term non-stop to deflect attention away from all the shady activities his inner circle was involved in. I would’ve been very surprised if there had been some sort of “smoking gun” directly linking Trump to anything overtly illegal and 0 chance of him being impeached, let alone removed from office.
And just because Mueller is done doesn’t mean that the SDNY isn’t going to hand down indictments of him or his family at some point. Since Trump is based in NYC and a lot of what has been alleged occurred there, that’s who probably plays the biggest threat to Trump and his family, especially since they can dig into whatever they want to and aren’t constrained by the Special Counsel rules. Doesn’t mean they will either, of course, but it’s not over. Honestly, Trump’s best hope at avoiding indictment is winning in 2020, which I think he has a decent chance of doing despite what the left wingers think….especially if they nominate some far left socialist who will bankrupt this country.
I do have to say that reading some of the comments on various sites from extreme liberals who for some reason thought Mueller was going to drop a big bombshell are kinda funny…just like reading comments from extreme conservatives who are acting like this means Trump and is associates aren’t dirty and corrupt.
harford county constitutionalist says
4 times a fisa warrant was issued against an american citizen who was never charged with a crime, that deserves as much media attention as anything. For two years we were told that the trump campaign was working with Putin to win the election, that has been proven false. The Mueller report did exonerate Trump on working with the Russians. What it did not do was exonerate Trump for Obstruction of Justice. Since the predicate crime did not happen, I think it would be a little tough to prove Trump impeded the investigation. Here is a summary by Ben Shapiro not exactly a Trump fan. https://www.dailywire.com/news/45069/5-big-takeaways-mueller-conclusions-exonerating-ben-shapiro
Trump could very well be dirty, but I thought the american justice system was supposed to investigate crimes not people. That is what Stalin used to do. The most important investigation going right now is in utah not new york, maybe it was placed there so that the DC/NY leak machine couldn’t mess it up. https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/03/29/us-attorney-for-utah-huber-probing-gop-raised-concerns-about-the-fbi-surveilling-trump-aide-ignoring-clinton-uranium-ties/
Hillary says
“I thought the american justice system was supposed to investigate crimes not people”
That’s what I thought too…….
SoulCrusher says
No. What we have just witnessed is that the American Justice System is in itself an act of treason against the United States and that these foreign entities that are making, investigating, prosecuting and persecuting are ALL detrimental to freedom and the American way of life. We have to realize that our government is an enemy of the people and is waging war against us under color of law. It is nothing but mass fraud and treason against us all and we have to realize that this particular incident was brought on by a political party, known as the Democratic Party. At this point, the Democratic Party either need to be reformed or destroyed. This is the reality of it…
Marie says
LOLLLL-
You wish
Pw3 says
Get back on your meds!
The Central Scrutinizer says
HCC is 100 percent correct and I am happy he / she took the time to explain it to those coup supporters still holding hope.
SoulCrusher says
I’m sorry, but the Southern District of New York is STILL a Federal agency. They have to follow the same guidelines that the other Federal agencies follow and that is you can NOT indict a sitting President. What is wrong with you guys? The only venue that can go after Trump is the STATE OF NEW YORK and since they are under Constitutional contract, I don’t think they can go after Trump either. That is until he is NOT the President any more, but I think we have also seen that the government doesn’t go after former Presidents as well. If I’m wrong, then we ALL have to wonder why NIXON didn’t do any jail time? It’s plain and simple, we don’t go after current or former Presidents of the US Corporation….
Just the facts says
No where does it say a President can’t be indicted . Sorry
harford county constitutionalist says
You are correct and Mueller did not indict Trump. Since we have the presumption of innocence that means that trump is innocent of the things investigated by the special counsel.
Just the facts says
It wasn’t Muellers job to indict, his job was to present the facts to the AG who then would give it to Congress for their decision. For some unknown reason Barr thinks it was his job to decide. You people really need to take a break from Fox news it’s rotting your brain.
Bob says
Fox News is like medicine — A “small dose” is a good & necessary thing, whereas a “large dose” is sure to turn you deaf & dumb to realty.
Bob says
Let me try again on my last reply to your post:
Fox News is like medicine — A “small dose” is a good & necessary thing, whereas a “large dose” is sure to turn you deaf and dumb to truth and reality.
harford county constitutionalist says
He was the special prosecutor his job was explicitly to indict or not. Fox new was the only network that got the reporting correct. All the other networks predicted indictments for conspiracy.
harford county constitutionalist says
Bob,
I agree you have to get the news from multiple sources, to try and see through the slant from both sides. If I had to pick one it would be Special Report with Bret Baier. He is not fox opinion but rather straight reporting. Reporters like Bret and Catherine Herridge are often lumped in with Hannity and Carlson. There is a big difference between their reporting and opinion commentary.
Bob says
You’re right. I like Bret Baier. My favorite on Fox News is Chris Wallace.
SoulCrusher says
How many times are you going to have to be told that the standing procedure by the DOJ is to NOT indict a sitting President? We have been hearing this for months. Where have you been?
Bob says
“The Mueller Investigation Is Over. Here’s How Much It Actually Cost Taxpayers”
Instead of costing $25M, it looks like the Investigation might break even or maybe turn a profit.
http://money.com/money/5639569/mueller-report-cost-waste-of-money-fines/
SoulCrusher says
The investigation can not break even. If it does, we need to know who profited from it to make it break even or turn a profit? If this is the case, then all monies need to be forfeited to the American taxpayers and returned to them immediately. In my opinion, the media organizations should all be sued and forced to pay dearly in order for nothing like this ever happens again. Make a media organization and specific reporters responsible, to put a major hole in their finances and they will think twice before publishing known false facts again….
Gordon Koerner says
Soul, BUT it did happen before and the last one was also a Republican. When this is all over Trump and his family will hate him for ever becoming president. ps if not in office than after office for crimes committeed in office.
SoulCrusher says
Uh huh, that’s why NIXON spent all that time in jail for the all too real crimes he committed while in office. Current and former Presidents don’t get indicted. That’s just the way it is….
Crazy times says
The Democrats are all twisted because their attempt at slipping President Trump the pickle didn’t work calling it a travesty of justice. The biggest travesty of justice this week is the Smollett case. What does it take to make a case these days against a high profile black man? Is this reparations gone wild? Does anyone think that decisions like this help reduce bias?
MissingReagan says
Total vindication for Trump. What was done to him should never happen again.
It isn’t just that there was no collusion. There never was any evidence of collusion to start with.
The dossier was fake.
The FISA system was blatantly abused. DOJ and FBI peddled this fake conspiracy the whole time.
Time to get to the bottom of how this mess started!
Really says
“There never was any evidence of collusion to start with.”
That is true if you missed….
Trump asking Russia to find the Emails
Flyn caught talking to Russian spys
Jarred forget contact with 100’s of foreign officials
Don Jr taking a meeting with Russia for dirt
Trump lied about Moscow Tower
Don Jr said Russia provides all the money they need
I could go on but you probably think OJ is innocent too don’t you…
The Central Scrutinizer says
Really says, “There never was any evidence of collusion…? Trump asking Russia to find the Emails” MY GOD…DENSE!
What goes around comes around says
The recent declassification of information is making the Dems lose their minds. There are a lot of Dems that will be looking for the last chair because the music is about ready to stop. Can’t wait to see how MSNBC will cover this one. I personally think that Mr. Comey will be the weak link. He is such a p—-y. Sit back folks and enjoy the show.
SoulCrusher says
Agreed. However, Comey should be indicted for interfering with the 2016 election. Everyone needs to realize that it wasn’t Russia who interfered with the election, it was the FBI and James Comey who interfered with the election. That’s the bottom line….
Bob says
You mean when Comey came out at the last minute claiming he found more Hillary emails? Yup that really sunk any hope she had and he helped trump win.
But don’t worry trump can’t obstruct justice for ever, his days are numbered. He’s going to be living in the penthouse of trump tower Moscow next to Putin.
What goes around comes around says
When the smoke clears Hillary and the Dems will make President Trump look like an alter boy. The Dems pushed for transparency when they thought it would help their cause. Sometimes you should be careful what you wish for. Ask Harry Reid how the implementation of the nuclear option worked out for his party. The Dems are going down hard. They definitely got caught speeding this time lol.
Just the facts says
Absolutely no one is rushing to join the republican party which is a clear indication the new nazi party is toxic. Old white guys are going the way of the dinosaur. Keep watching fFox news it’s already far too late to save yourself so enjoy the music while you sink.
Never give up says
It is clear the President has been compromised by foreign governments and others. He is guilty of treason, it will take time but he and his family will be brought to justice.
What goes around comes around says
@ Just the facts
Typical liberal. When all else fails inject race in to the mix.
SoulCrusher says
Bob, yes I was referring to the exact same thing you are stating. If anyone interfered it was Comey. However, I think Trump has done a good job and I am glad he’s President and not HRC. But, yes, Comey did hurt Hillary in her bid and he should be indicted for it. Do you really think Comey didn’t know what he was doing? Maybe you Dems should think about that before you let him on all political shows….
SoulCrusher says
@ Never give up – The only ones who are involved in any action that should be considered treasonous is the leaders of the Democratic party whom have orchestrated a false narrative of Russian interference and collusion with the duly elected President. The Democratic party is TREASON and it has been that way since that traitor FDR stole our gold and sold our souls. Now, the Democratic party wants their followers to give up all their rights and follow the teachings of fascism. The Democratic party should be abolished on the grounds of warring against the US Constitution under Article 3 Section 3 and in this State should be broken up on the grounds of anti trust violations. Politics is BIG business and the Democrats have totally turned this State into something that’s not supposed to be. A complete corporate mafia and a terrorist organization……
jean says
That money certainly could have been used to help many seniors who must decide between medicine, food and utilities each month.
This investigation would have done more for the American people if it had investigated the spiraling costs of health care and how Obama care is failing the average American citizen. Maybe it could have recommended a special government insurance for those with preexisting conditions that covers 100% and not 80% like medicare. Those on medicare that do not qualify for government help for the supplement pay almost as much as those pay that have full coverage by insurance..
LOL says
Jean I’d suggest you read the republican healthcare plan… Oh wait that’s right after 10 years they still don’t have one …. LOL
Proud American says
The ridiculous amount of money that is being spent is on Andy Harris a total waste of tax payers money.
James A Close says
Amen !
Just the facts says
Andy do us all a favor, this will never end until the full report is released.
RELEASE THE REPORT NOW!
Jim says
Didn’t the House vote 420-0 to release the report and then the Senate (McConnell anyway) blocked it’s release? I can’t stand Harris, but he’s not preventing it from being released.
Arturro Nasney says
YES!! Release the full report now. Who cares if the names and data of 500, innocent of all charges, people are in the report. Wait a second. How would you like to be one of those people who is guilty of nothing other than knowing somebody who knows somebody who might have worked for Trump or one of his friends? Th report will absolutely have to be seriously redacted, just like anything else the government does. Good God, a congress person’s grocery shopping list needs to be redacted
? says
Ok so what we are to believe is a bunch of people who all got caught lying over the last 2 years are totally innocent and you have the report that proves they are totally exonerated but we can’t see it.
Seriously?
Gordon Koerner says
The Republican’s have put a target on Hillary’s back since she was first lady back in the 1990’s and they have over the years spent more $100 million taxpayer dollars on investigation’s aimed at taking Hillary Clinton down.
After only nine months in office, President Trump and family had already spent $147 million on personal travel,
New debt from Republican tax bill: $1,500,000,000,000″ and counting.
Benghazi ‘investigation’: $7,000,000
Yes, Andy Harris you are allowing this to happen and continue to happen each and every day you were and are in congress.
Bob says
I agree. Andy is a real piece of work. I use to live in his district. Last year I went to his town hall meeting in Joppa. The main focus was gun control, specifically the threat that automatic/semi-automatic military-style weapons present in regards to school safety. I had the opportunity to question him directly and elicit his views on guns. He even tried to reassure me that the President was on top of things in Washington because he had ‘quality advisers’ like “Stephen Miller” You can imagine that conversation didn’t go very well.
ForestHillResident says
I am so glad to know that Trump isn’t the Manchurian Candidate.
I am not convinced Trump isn’t a crook.
I am certain that Trump is taking this country down the wrong path.
I do hope the Supreme Court strikes down gerrymandering in Maryland so that we have a more considerate representative than this clown Andy Harris.
? says
You are glad because his appointed AG told you from a report that totally says he didn’t do it but they can’t show you. Have you lost your mind?
harford county constitutionalist says
Do you think Mueller would stand by and let Barr Lie about the contents of the report?
? says
Sadly he would be forced to, it’s the law.
harford county constitutionalist says
According to bulwark he can release a statement, Can you point to the law preventing him from speaking out?
https://thebulwark.com/should-mueller-speak-out-about-barr/
harford county constitutionalist says
Rosenstein was appointed by Eric Holder to prosecute the Vice Chair of the JCOS, signed the 4th fisa warrant to spy on Carter, the letter recommending the firing of Comey, appointed the special prosecutor, wrote the expanded scope memo, and agreed with Barr on the summary of the Mueller report. So in order to believe that Barr lied in the report you would also have to believe that Rosenstein set this whole thing up only to let Trump off. Of course the other answer is Trump is not a traitor, and Robert Mueller confirmed that.
dale says
Trump always has and always will be all about himself. He basically only stays at his resorts. Why? Big money being made while he is in office. I am not a fan, not because he is a republican I think he is a bad guy.
In his time at office I personally have seen no benefits. They say the economy is great I wouldn’t know. I do know this I got a much smaller tax return this year. My paycheck is no greater.
I don’t like how he treats people, and the lies just have to stop.
We need 2 things in our political system. First get the money out, and second term limits. For all of those who defend the 2nd amendment you have to realize the same founding fathers didn’t plan on career politicians.
harford county constitutionalist says
Trump isn’t a career politician.
Harford Republican says
No shit he isn’t career., he’s trying to run the country like he ran his business and he was a complete failure at that. Jesus they wont even let him or his family run a charity, how bad a person must you be to have that sort of legal action against you?
Bob says
Dale, I agree with your two suggestions. “Term limits” are a realistic possibility; however, I just don’t know if our country has the will to “get the money out’ of politics. The latter could probably happen only if we decide to go the Public Financing” route.
Joel says
Harford county constitutionalist, I love you.
harford county constitutionalist says
I love facts. 🙂
Bob says
“Mueller is done. Trump’s legal woes aren’t.”
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/20/18241825/trump-investigations-sdny-inauguration-state-congress
Even though Mueller is finished, it looks like our President will be in court for “many, many” years after he leaves office in Jan 2021.
“You reap what you sow”!
harford county constitutionalist says
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeff-sessions-quietly-appointed-a-prosecutor-to-probe-potus-foes-that-could-be-an-unprecedented-disaster
Bob,
I think there is a grand jury in utah, outside the washington leak machine, that agrees with you about reaping what you sow.
Bob says
From what I have been able to find out about Utah Attorney Huber, it seems he doesn’t have much of an eye for detail and keeps “losing” things. This leads me to conclude that his investigation probably won’t amount to much.
The fact that Huber was appointed to the bench by President Obama in 2015, shows me that even someone as smart & intelligent as Obama can make a mistake.
Remember, you can’t expect to reap a crop if you “lose” the seed. GO CAPS!
harford county constitutionalist says
Maybe you are right, but unlike my leftist counterparts I am unwilling to conclude anything on the investigation prematurely. The fact remains that under Obama a document that was a paid for by the Clinton Campaign was used to open up a fisa warrant into an american citizen. After a year of spying on him and two years of investigation they did not charge him with a single crime. That is jack booted level stuff and it stems directly from Obama’s DOJ. The worst part about it was the fourth estate loved Obama so much they never even covered that part of it.
They also never covered the nsa data feed abuse that Admiral Mike Rogers shut down.
https://themarketswork.com/2018/04/05/the-uncovering-mike-rogers-investigation-section-702-fisa-abuse-the-fbi
The real question that needs to be answered was why did the FBI get that fisa warrant on Carter Page just five days before Mike Rogers presented his information to the fisa court and shut down the upstream queries? I think there is a lot more to this story, and now that Trump is exonerated we might get some answers. I hope anyway.
Just the facts says
The dossier was originally commissioned by the Free Beacon an anti trump republican group.The FISA warrent was issued by 4 HW Bush ( a republican) appointed judges. There was an entire page in the application devoted to the validity issues of the dossier. All information the Nunes document( LOL) managed to omit.
If the Mueller report exonerated trump it would have been released immediately and read on air every 30 minutes by Fox news.
harford county constitutionalist says
I think you should change your moniker.
https://freebeacon.com/uncategorized/fusion-gps-washington-free-beacon/
wrong on dossier.
The judges were not provided with exculpatory evidence, that is my point. The fisa warrant specifically used the issikoff story to confirm what the dossier was saying. Issikoff admitted that he had written his story off information Steele had given him that is circular reporting. The fbi never confirmed anything in the dossier, but used it to spy on an american. Funny how all the major people in the dossier were written about by Glen Simpson in 2007. https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/251897/obama-steele-dossier-russiagate
Fusion GPS is much less a research firm and more a story generating firm. They call up reporters and provide them stories with sources. They are well paid to do this. They don’t call Ken Delanian, Fusion Ken for nothing.
To believe your last statement you would have to believe that Rosenstein was willing to start the special counsel, expand the scope of the resulting investigation, then lie about the results of the investigation.
LOL says
“I am unwilling to conclude anything on the investigation prematurely”
You may want to reread your posts LOL
harford county constitutionalist says
I don’t believe I concluded anything, but we all are subject to confirmation bias. This is one of the stories that always made me wonder.
https://themarketswork.com/2018/05/05/a-quiet-hero-nsa-director-admiral-mike-rogers-retires/
Why would Rogers go to trump about 10 days after the election, without telling his boss, then Trump move from Trump tower to New Jersey immediately. Then to have Clapper recommend firing Roger. It is a hard sell to make me think Rogers was a traitor.
Bob says
I read the Department of Defense plans to shift $1Billion from military funds to start building a new 57-mile section of border fencing. Does the DOD have the authority to shift these funds? Is this action legal? Does it meet the constitutional test?
harford county constitutionalist says
The hill seems to think it is legal as long as it is used for drug corridors.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/435875-democratic-chairman-rejects-pentagons-use-of-1-billion-for-trumps-border-wall
The supreme court has settled law that says via the commerce clause the government can regulate food you grow for personal consumption. I have no clue what they would allow now.
http://sites.gsu.edu/us-constipedia/wickard-v-filburn-1942/
SoulCrusher says
The Commerce Clause can NOT be used to give a power or authority that has NOT been ordained to the Government. They can regulate things that are meant to be for COMMERCIAL purposes and NOT for personal consumption and even then they can only regulate what passes between the borders of the State, NOT what goes on in the State. Through treachery and treason the US Code has become a menace and the Supreme Court has ruled incorrectly on many cases because the LAWYERS will not argue the case correctly. Our lawyers or attorneys are nothing but thieves pilfering the money out of the pocket of Americans on behalf of corporate greed.
harford county constitutionalist says
If you replace can NOT with should NOT I agree. Problem is they actually did.
SoulCrusher says
I understand what you’re saying. However, I don’t think they stated it like it was meant to be and gave CONSENT to the actually standing of the statute. If they said “the Commerce Clause CAN NOT give the government a power and authority not ordained by the people, so I DO NOT consent to the statute and the statute is unconstitutional via the substantive due process clause”, I believe the statute would’ve been overturned. The lawyer should have made the argument, but did not because the lawyer did not do his job.
SoulCrusher says
What Constitutional test? Congress only has the authority to enact the procedure for naturalization, not secure the border. The border is a military concern as it always has been. What do you think a standing army is for? Legally, once money is appropriated to the military, the military does with it what is necessary and proper. Remember that Clause? Sure, the DOD can shift funds, just like other parts of this compartmentalized government. They do it all the time. Now, ask Maxine Walters how much money her and her husband stole from the bank bail out money and then ask your local Congressman how come she’s on the Finance Committee? It’s because your government is a criminal entity of corporate greed and that’s the bottom line….
Bob says
When I say “constitutional test’ I’m asking, is there anything in the Constitution that specifically prohibits this type of action?
Do “you” feel this shifting of funds is both “necessary and proper.”
harford county constitutionalist says
My personal opinion is no, it is not constitutional. It is currently codified into law that this can happen, but I personally believe that Congress has adopted a policy of exporting it’s job to executive agencies. For years now Congress has given it’s authority over to executive agencies in order to insulate themselves from repercussions of implementing policy. Congress should control all spending so that we, as voters, can hold them accountable for bad policy. If congress does not pass a budget each year then we should not spend any money, but instead we have this omnibus process that is either shut the government down or fund everything.
I think a convention of states is the only way to stop this, as provided by the constitution.
Bob says
I agree. Sadly, our country’s “budget process” is broken and our politicians, both Dems & Repubs, are unwilling and unable to fix it.
Can Spot'em says
Agree in part, and disagree in part. Agree unwilling. Disagree unable. Of course they are able.
They are able to run up a $22 trillion debt.
They are able to spend $17 million paying off their sexual misconduct with our money.
They are able to provide themselves raises.
They are able to exempt themselves from laws affecting the rest of us.
They are able to tax people as a penalty for not buying something.
They are able to tax income.
They are able to tax death.
They are able to tax money you already paid taxes on because you did something productive with it.
They are able to provide money to people for nothing.
They are able to declare wars.
They are able to regulate virtually every aspect of our lives.
And on and on I could go…
Please, don’t tell me they are ‘unable’. As said, they are not accountable for what appears they are ‘unable’ to do. They are not accountable for what they indeed do! Imagine what it would look like if we were unarmed? [Hint, look around the world, there are may samples to build an image.]
SoulCrusher says
@Can Spot’em – That my friend was a true testament of the evil our government has become. I salute you….
SoulCrusher says
I believe border security is a military issue that is controlled by the executive branch. So, YES, I believe the shifting of funds granted to the military to use for border security is Constitutional. However, I am NOT in favor of a wall and believe that the wall will be a symbol of freedom lost. Trump ran on that wall and won. Even though I don’t really want it, give the man his damn wall. That’s what the voters want and that’s how he won the Presidency.
Bob says
SoulCrusher, what do you mean when you say, “that wall will be a symbol of freedom lost:?
SoulCrusher says
Well, it’s kinda obvious. Walls are contrary to freedom. That wall will be a symbol that the United States is no longer free and that we are contained within our borders and subjects to the government that built it. We as a nation of free born men and women is lost and we only have ourselves to blame by allowing this government to enslave us. – “Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.. He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.. He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.. People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both”. – Benjamin Franklin
Bob says
Now, I remember. I had to go back and refresh my memory regarding our January conversation. You said, “walls are contrary to freedom as walls are a product of containment. Your POV surprises me somewhat, as I believe the majority of Americans for or against spending billions on our southern border wall see it as a symbol of something that keeps people out.
SoulCrusher says
I’m not most Americans and I see the issue differently. What keeps things out also keeps things in and sacrificing our freedom for security is something that shouldn’t be. In the name of “security” they will try to steal every freedom we have, bit by bit, until they are the fascist gestapo organization they yearn to be. Your government isn’t your friend and you need to learn this.
Bob says
You have to face the music. As long as you are a citizen, living in America it’s also YOUR government.. Instead of defining it as YOURS or MINE, let’s call it OUR government.
SoulCrusher says
I’m not a citizen on a ship of your corporate government. I’m a citizen of the land known as the United States. I’m not a citizen on a ship owned by the STATE OF MARYLAND. I’m a citizen of the state known as Maryland. You can be a citizen of that corporate government all you want, but I denounce the US Code and the Code of Maryland because I am not a citizen of a paper mess, nor am I a government employee or an elected official. I am a man of the land and you are a man of the sea, the corporate government is your government, not mine. So it’s not OUR government, it’s your government and I will not help finance your government because your government is made of straw. It only takes one match to burn that straw to ashes and I’m that match. Let’s make some ashes….
Bob says
I understand. You just won’t/can’t take those blinders off and let the light in. You have a great weekend!
SoulCrusher says
It’s you government Bob, not mine. I condemn it because I’m supposed to. That’s what citizens of the United States are supposed to do.
harford county constitutionalist says
go to convention of states .com
the filter will not let me post the link.
DJT says
What is a total waste of taxpayers money is Trump’s 163 days of golf so far costing the taxpayer’s $90 million at last count.
Bob says
I look at it this way. Every day we can keep our President out of the Oval Office and away from the levers of power, our country is much safer and stronger. We are better off just letting him play golf, tweet and rant to his heart’s content.
The Central Scrutinizer says
Bob, what part of no collusion don’t you understand?
Bob says
Why don’t you explain it to me? Please!
Question says
Question Bob. If President Trump was asked to produce 30,000 emails via subpoenas and then destroyed them and used a bleaching system to cleanse his computer and smashed his cell phones would you be upset? How about if he made a call to the States Attorney of jurisdiction directing them to not pursue an investigation regarding a celebrity who, by his false accusations, caused significant racial divide in this country even though there was a preponderance of evidence to convict? I am just trying to understand the liberal mindset
Bob says
If AFTER being issued a subpoena, our President used a program like BleachBit to delete emails and he also destroyed a cell phone to hide evidence my answer to your first question would be YES, I’d be extremely upset.
Does your 2nd question refer to Jussie Smollett? Also, who made a call to the States Attorney? Let me know and I will be better able to give you an answer on this issue
BTW you should check BleachBit out. It’s a free, easy to use File Cleaning program.
SoulCrusher says
Hey Bob, if Trump pulls out of the UN and gets rid of the Patriot Act, I will have to say he is the greatest President of my lifetime. On December 9, 1945, the International Organization Immunities Act relinquished every public office of the United States to the United Nations. We should not be governed by the UN and the UN has used us as the seat of their military power since that same date. When you look at the UN and it’s current departmental heads, you will see we have one department that we run and everything else is being held by foreign diplomats. For Christ sake, the Highest ranking official in the UN is from PORTUGAL. WTF. Another interesting aspect is the country with the most departmental heads is FRANCE and we all see how well their system is running. Look, if Trump can reverse the last 74 years of foreign rule on our soil, I’ll call him King. All I want is for our country to be a legitimate sovereign again, for my fellow Americans to not be chattel to corporations and for our Country to make its own law regarding what we believe in and that isn’t what is going on right now. America has been under siege for 74 years, by foreign entities using our own damn people to enslave and war against us, while being paid by the same enslaved sheep they prey upon. It’s disgusting.
Bob says
Hey DJT, I was reading the below article from the Washington Post and I thought about your post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/27/five-trump-trips-mar-a-lago-would-cover-betsy-devoss-proposed-special-olympics-cuts/?noredirect=on
The Central Scrutinizer says
The summery mentions 2 possible colluders, separates the Team Trump from others. It only clears 1.
SoulCrusher says
In my opinion, it may just be that Jeff Sessions is one of those colluders. After all, he did have to recuse himself in part of his contact with foreign agents during the election. It would make me very happy to see Sessions indicted….
The Central Scrutinizer says
Now we can investigate all the weaponizing of departments, the many crimes against the constitution , and have the trials.
Bob says
In the last couple of days our President has said the following:
— GOP will be the party of health care
— I understand health care now, especially very well
These statements give me concern. Perhaps now is the time I should double-up on my vitamins, increase my exercising, cut out late night snacking and say some extra prayers that I don’t get sick.
I can’t quite figure out why the president thinks “now” is a good time for him to be talking health care. Doesn’t he know that this issue is probably the main reason the Democrats did so well in 2018? This issue is a big time loser for both the President and the regular Republican party The bottom line is that most Americans do not trust this President when it comes to their health care.
SoulCrusher says
“say some extra prayers that I don’t get sick” – Perhaps you should file a motion to the courts and pray to them that you don’t get sick. After all, you Democrats seem to think that the government is God and the courts believe that you should pray to them to get justice….
harford county constitutionalist says
Did you trust Obama with your healthcare? See the dirty little secret that no one talks about is that public healthcare is subsidized by private payments. If you did Medicare for all, the advancement in medicine would slow to a crawl. As much as the profit margin in medicine, especially drug prices, makes people upset, that profit motive is what drives some of our best and brightest into the field. If tomorrow the salary of a good surgeon drops from a half million dollars a year to a hundred thousand dollars a year, how many would be doctor’s would choose a different career? Would companies invest billions of dollars to find new medicines, when they wouldn’t see the financial reward after they found it?
The biggest problem in the insurance market was created by the government. When the government said it would tax income, but not benefits, it was in everyone’s self interest to get more benefits from their employers than money. If your employer was willing to give you 10,000 dollars in either salary or benefits what would you take the actual 10 grand in benefits or the 7000 in salary that you would actually get after the feds, state, local, fisa… got done with it? So then you end up with these medical benefits, but the consumer is so far removed from actually paying for the service they do not shop to get a better deal, they just go to the doctor give their copay not caring what the actual cost is.
Marlene Thomas, from Aberdeen says
I have complete faith in Barack Obama and Joe Biden to pick my doctor.
They were great men.
Christopher Thomas says
Joey B’s son Hunter sure likes that Chinese billion dollars his father got for him.
https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/
The left is guilty of everything they accuse Trump of. The only difference is the news won’t cover it.
Duh says
While that sounds good US healthcare sucks to other countries. And sliding everyday. Most new treatments and drugs come from countries wtih socialized medicine. See they have an incentive to reduce costs and cure disease. For profit has an incentive to keep you sick.
harford county constitutionalist says
You are correct that the profit incentive does create the we have a pill for that mentality. In the uk no one is not taking their insulin because of cost, but most diabetics are that way because of poor diet. Not a judgement just the way things are. Americans make themselves sick through eating poorly or too much. But in the end when it comes to research the us is way above everyone else.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2011/03/23/the-most-innovative-countries-in-biology-and-medicine/amp/
Bob says
Our government is not God; however,it’s not the devil either.
SoulCrusher says
Really? Then why on earth do they think they can steal your “unalienable” rights? Why on earth do they make supposed law that they have been forbidden to make? If you can’t see where our government has gone wrong with declaring a person a criminal or a felon when they never caused any harm to a single soul, yet will let a murderer out of jail in 10 years because they learned their lesson, then I don’t know if you’d ever see the devil in anything the government does. Your government is not your friend…it is your enemy.
harford county constitutionalist says
https://themarketswork.com/2019/03/28/spygate-the-inside-story-behind-the-alleged-plot-to-take-down-trump
Good summation of what is known about the governments actions during the investigation pre mueller. Remember a lot of doj/fbI folKS have been fired for cause or demoted.
LMAO says
MArketwatch is owned by Rupert Murdock might as well use National Enquirer.
harford county constitutionalist says
LMAO click that link again, it is for markets work an independent site for an investigative journalist name Jeff Carlson. His work is well sourced with links to the primary documents.
Bob says
I feel better now!: “Trump punts health care until after 2020”
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/01/trump-health-care-reform-1247632
After further thought the President Trump has changed his mind and decided the “GOP will no longer be the party of health care”. Looks like someone finally broke the news to him that his party doesn’t have a clue on how to improve health care.
Marlene Thomas, from Aberdeen says
Christopher Thomas, mean and uncalled for.
Bob says
GOOD NEWS!: “Trump administration suffers another Obamacare blow in court”
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/28/trump-health-care-1306928
Cdev says
How much got spent on Bhengazi? Not to mention fines on Manafort alone will paymost of this
harford county constitutionalist says
The premise of the Benghazi investigation was that the state department ignored security requests. That turned out to be true.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/06/benghazi-scandal-hillary-clinton-state-department-obama-administration-house-committee/
The premise of the Russia investigation was that a presidential candidate conspired with Russia to sway an election. That turned out to be false.
Just the facts says
No you are incorrect again A memo by trumps appointed AG says the report claims there was not enough evidence to prosecute.. If you are going to make shit up at least make it believable.
SoulCrusher says
Are you serious? The report said there was no evidence of collusion. Collusion isn’t even a crime, so there was no obstruction of justice because there was never a crime for justice to be obstructed from. You need to stop listening to that traitor Adam Schiff.
Bob says
Apparently, there DOES NOT have to be am” underlying crime” for a person to be found guilty of obstruction.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/mar/25/martha-stewart-donald-trump-can-there-be-obstructi/
Cdev says
Collusion isn’t but accepting gifts in kind from a foreign entity is for a campaign. That said let’s wait to see the other 296 pages.
SoulCrusher says
@Bob – There doesn’t need to be an underlying crime if you are a Democrat whom wishes to see Trump removed from office. However, according to this so called justice system there does need to be a crime for justice to be obstructed. There is NO justice in the Mueller investigation and it was nothing but a political witch hunt the entire time.
@Cdev – What gifts were accepted by the Trump campaign to further the campaign? That being said, I hope they DO release the whole report and I think even if the whole report exonerates Trump, the Democratic party will still say he colluded with Russia. This isn’t a Democratic part, it’s a Dumbocratic party….
Bob says
Spin it anyway you want, call it a “witch hunt, but you are wrong on this one. Obstruction of justice does not require an underlying crime. Regarding the Mueller Investigation we’ll have to wait and see.
Cdev says
That is why the investigation and the underlying crime is Russian interference in the election. That did happen. If Trump was in on it was being investigated. Just like Nixon didn’t know about watergate but he obstructed justice.
SoulCrusher says
No. Nixon knew the offices at Watergate were being broken into. Watergate was nothing like this. If you think Russian bots were so successful at changing the opinions of Americans then you must think that the American people are stupid. Now, I don’t condone any real interference in an election, but I don’t think Russia did anything that our own government does ALL the time. Your government has interfered in most election in Europe since the end of World War II and Putin adamantly claims that Hillary Clinton interfered in one of his past election by financing the opposition party against him. It amazes me when people think it’s OK for our government to interfere in foreign election, but its a high crime when another Country interferes with ours. We have to be realistic about this and some Facebook ads and schemes doesn’t really cut the mustard for me when we are talking about interference in an election. Had the Russians hacked the ballot boxes and changed vote tallies, I’m with you ALL the way…
harford county constitutionalist says
He was cleared on obstruction by the doj. Rosenstein started the special counsel and signed off of the summary of its conclusions.
Cdev says
Soul crusher Nixon only knew about watergate after the fact.
It doesn’t matter if the Russians were successful or not. It is still a crime. Want to test it? Walk into a bank say you are there to rob it and not walk out with any money. That is still a crime. It is a fact that Russians did attempt to influence our election as borne out by indictments and in Barr’s own summary. It is a fact that some of the leaders of this effort met with Trumps campaign and transition team members as displayed in confessions and indictments. What they talked about we don’t know. It is possible Trump knew nothing about these meetings and is himself innocent like Nixon of the underlying crime. If he became aware and tried to cover it up that would be obstruction without being guilty of the underlying crime. I look forward to seeing Muellers thoughts on this. Either way the investigation was warranted.
SoulCrusher says
@Cdev – If you think that Nixon didn’t know about it, then you’re foolish. I know the story and know everyone backed him up, but if you really think that he didn’t know about it then you’re plain foolish. What would you expect from a common traitor that declared a war against the American people that to this day has never been rescinded. Why on earth would you think that a man who declares war on his own people wouldn’t order a break in to spy on an opposition party. History, as reported in modern times, is more than slightly skewed by those whom record it and bureaucrats always protect their own…..
harford county constitutionalist says
I am making nothing up, here is the exact wording from the mueller report as quoted in barr’s summary.
“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”
Cdev says
That doesn’t equal didn’t do it. Notice the footnote!
harford county constitutionalist says
Here is the footnote.
In assessing potential conspiracy charges, the Special Counsel also considered whether members of the Trump campaign “coordinated” with Russian election interference activities. The Special Counsel defined “coordination” as an “agreement—tacit or express—between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference.”
Basically mueller considered coordination to be ANY agreement between trump and russia, and he could not find any. That equals didn’t do it.
Cdev says
It is possible one has knowledge of and no agreement. Also it is possible an agreement existed and Mueller couldn’t prove it given the lack of ability to question certain people. Again wait for the whole thing. Either way we clearly know Trump was not very aware of what the people who worked for him do and is a bad judge of character to employ so many felons in his campaign.
SoulCrusher says
I think Trump is very aware of what people are doing around him, he just wishes to keep the veil of plausible deniability in place in case something goes wrong. I think every American President has had the same dilemma. You have this stigma that those in your government are lawful. They are NOT lawful and have never been. I remember BOTH my grandfathers saying “Nixon didn’t do anything any other President didn’t do, he just got caught”. We have to remember that we don’t get told what is really going on and we are conditioned to believe what reputable sources want us to believe. However, what really makes that source reputable if we don’t really know what is going on. Most of what we know that occurs in this world is a fiction and very seldom do we get told the truth of matters involving just about anything you can imagine. I do know one thing, if my government says it’s so, I believe the exact opposite….
Bob says
SoulCrusher, I’m somewhat surprised by your last sentence which included the words “my government”. That’s a step in the right direction. Keep up the good work!
Also, in your post you said something to the effect you “wouldn’t expect someone…”. What wouldn’t you expect?
SoulCrusher says
It was a slip of the fingers.
harford county constitutionalist says
Wikileaks told us the truth, granted it was an extremely uncomfortable truth, but still the truth. The Clinton campaign did a very good job of spinning that story into a story where the Russians were the bogey man. The Russian government is chock full of bad actors. Wikileaks showed us how corrupt and incestuous the relationship between the media and our government is. Everytime you read a story in the news ask yourself two questions: Who wants me to know this and why do they want me to know it?
DJT says
SoulCrusher says
Not only did Wikileaks tell the truth, the founder of Wikileaks and the whole organization has been demonized as we are all being told a lie that it’s a Russian colluding organization and it’s members are being persecuted globally. Forget the fact that Wikileaks had leaked information a few years prior that Putin was involved in an international money scheme where he had in fact stolen all the wealth from the Russian people and held it in his private accounts. I’m sure that this reveal did endear the organization to Putin and the Russian government. The whole idea that Wikileaks operatives are in fact the Russian government is totally insane. We as a people should not have to rely on foreign resources to find out the truth about certain individuals in our government who DID in fact conspire to fix the outcome of the last Democratic Primary. We have to ask ourselves if the Democratic Party is capable of any truth or even a fair election involving its primaries. The Democrats are preaching treason and this is a fact that we all must conclude….
Eric Trump says
We don’t need American banks we get all the money we need from Russia.
DJT jr says
The meeting was about adoptions, I swear.
Jarred K says
Is setting up an off the books back channel with Russia wrong? Asking for a friend.
harford county constitutionalist says
Why did fusion gps, the media spin squad hired by Hillary, meet with Veselnitskaya both before and after the Trump meeting? Stop reading the msm sources, where companies like fusion gps plant the stories, and read some actually investigative journalism. The fbi/mueller investigations had fisa warrants for people on the trump campaign, if they had done something then Mueller would have nailed them.
https://thefederalist.com/2018/07/30/facts-behind-trump-tower-meeting-incriminating-not-trump/
Read some John Solomon
https://thehill.com/author/john-solomon
Bob says
Below is Wikipedia info on John Solomon, opinion commentator for The Hill and Ben Domenech, publisher of The Federalist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Solomon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Domenech
Both are very, very conservative and it seems as though, neither one rarely lets the facts get in the way.
harford county constitutionalist says
Bob,
Absolutely the source should be considered, but in hindsight their reporting seems to be much more in line than what actually happened than the msm. Ben Domenech is also married to Meghan McCain not exactly a Trump supporter. The msm was constantly over their ski’s on Trump Russia. https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/25/media-russia-collusion-mueller-report-fake-news/
And the best is behind a paywall. Glenn Simpson wrote about, Paul Manafort, Deripaska and Russia collusion with Bob Dole back in 2007. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB117674837248471543
Pretty amazing he was behind the dossier that accused Trump of the same thing or maybe he made the whole damn thing up.
Bob says
Hey HCC, one of my wife’s favorite TV shows is the “View”, so I am aware that Megan McCain cannot abide Trump. Although his politics were a bit too conservative for my taste, I consider John McCain a true American hero.
It’s a shame our President just can’t let go of McCain’s “thumb down” vote on repealing Obamacare (AHA). At times I’m really taken aback by just how small and petty Trump can be.
Even though our POV are far apart on many things, I am confident the ” the facts & the truth” lie somewhere between us.
harford county constitutionalist says
I agree McCain is an American Hero. There are two ways to look at that situation and they are both probably true. Trump is a thin skinned jerk who won’t let it go and John McCain hated Trump so much he would rather sink a Trump initiative than do exactly what he campaigned on.
SoulCrusher says
@Jarred K – I don’t think so considering virtually every former President did indeed have a back channel to Russia (U.S.S.R). Now, why don’t you Democratic traitors STOP with your partisan antics and face the reality that Trump did absolutely nothing wrong and Adam Schiff is a traitor against the United States.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/05/john-f-kennedy-had-a-russian-back-channel.html
SoulCrusher says
Furthermore, those who read this article will see that having a back channel to Russia (U.S.S.R) was very common and it was done by both Republican and Democratic Presidents alike. Are we now going to say that every President that has come before Trump was a traitor as well?
https://givemeliberty01.com/tag/ted-kennedy-created-ussr-back-channel-to-help-negotiate-against-pres-reagan/
Bob says
I believe the Benghazi Hearings cost around $7 Million. Below are links to the Final Report and also the New York Times take on the report:
https://archives-benghazi-republicans-oversight.house.gov/NewInfo
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/us/politics/hillary-clinton-benghazi.html
Cdev says
That was one hearing you are ignoring the other 52 hearings!
Bob says
I’m confused, what “other 52” hearings are you referring to?
Cdev says
All the house and senate hearings plus the select committee.
harford county constitutionalist says
The problem with the Bengazi hearings final analysis hinged on one simple flaw, who told the guys on the tarmac to stand down. That question was never answered. I have to believe if Obama had followed the situation the entire time then that error would never have happened. The idea that we were asking permission to send our people in during an attack is absurd. Outside of the requests for additional security being denied, our SOP should be when our people are under attack we move, not lets get permission to go.
The coordinated lies after the fact were terrible, but all administrations do that kind of spin. The inexcusable part was not letting the help get to our guys.
Bob says
More could have and should have been done to prevent the deaths of those 4 brave Americans in Benghazi. I hope we learned something from the investigation and that we are now better prepared to deal with such an incident.
SoulCrusher says
I think poor judgement put the men at risk, but they did so at their own peril. Once it started, I don’t think we had anything close enough to make a difference and I don’t think we could have saved them. However, if you don’t get involved in other countries sovereign affairs and stop being the bully for the United Nations, you might not be having crap like that going down. Did anyone ever really think that Libya would be a good place to go for Americans in this day and age? Quite frankly, I believe Americans should probably steer clear of Africa and the Middle East because we are hated there so badly. You will not be able to end Extreme Muslim Terrorism when those who follow that mantra believe they are on a mission from God. They hate us and that isn’t going away anytime soon. Too many generations have been killed in that region for a forgiveness to take hold…..
Bob says
You’re right. We should think long & hard before we get involved in other countries sovereign affairs. However, the reality of today’s world, does not allow us to “steer clear of Africa and the Middle because we are hated there so badly” Sadly, there is hatred by some on “all” sides.
Religious intolerance is insidious. It is particularly dangerous when any group (Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc.) feel “God is on their side” at the exclusion of others. History has taught us that religious crusades are not always a good thing.
SoulCrusher says
The reality of today’s world is that it is being ruled by the UN, which we made and are now being subject to the convictions of a foreign body. We have no real interest in the Middle East or Africa. We don’t have strong commerce ties and we don’t use their oil. I don’t think American resources should be used for the benefit of the UN. The UN has had 74 years to make themselves better, yet they continue to expect America to be the seat of their military power and the force behind their governance. I don’t answer to the UN. I don’t answer to The Nation of Palestine or the HOLY SEE. The UN means absolutely nothing to me and I want to know why the UN thinks it can make law for me? This is America and we don’t answer to foreign nations and international banks. We hold THEIR gold, not the other way around. They answer to the American people and we don’t care what they say…
Melania says: says
Why are Trump worshipers always so stupid? I mean stupid as in box of rocks stupid.
harford county constitutionalist says
I’ll play along why are trump supporters so stupid?
Bob says
It’s not about “stupidity” — it’s about their FEAR and ANXIETY. America is changing and for many of his supporters “change” is a scary, threatening thing.
SoulCrusher says
Really? Coming from those who support ANTIFA, Courts of public opinion and have substituted justice for whatever lies their political party can make up, I believe the “change” you are referring to is VERY scary. The Democratic party has become the party of everything it doesn’t mean to be American and believes that a Democracy has overthrown the Republic that still stands. When you hear the pledge of allegiance it is clearly stated “and to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands”. There isn’t anything in it about a “Democracy”. There is Democratic elections, that’s the extent of your Democracy. Nothing else. However, I wouldn’t expect someone who is a member of the party that extinguished Article III courts in favor of corporate courts and has tried to make us slaves of the corporation know as government. If you guys had your way, every right, protection, privilege and immunity would be stolen so you guys can persecute anybody with the lies coming out of your Democratic mouths. I’m sorry, but the Democratic party is the party of treason and there is no denying this fact. I really don’t support or belong to any political subdivision and if you think this country was meant to be run by two corporate political parties, then you clearly don’t know what it means to be an American. The Republican party is bad, but the Democratic party is treason…..
Bob says
Gallup: “Americans Fear Personal and National Healthcare Cost Crisis”
https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/248108/americans-fear-personal-national-healthcare-cost-crisis.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication
This Gallup poll is pretty scary. We need to start coming up some real solutions to our health care crisis.
harford county constitutionalist says
Bob,
I read these today and thought they might interest you. Healthcare is important but the UK system is not what we want to emulate.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/11/23/the-myth-of-americans-poor-life-expectancy/#265ee1072b98
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2019/04/01/britains-version-of-medicare-for-all-is-collapsing/#67cff95736b8
ForestHillResident says
Rep Harris – There were 34 criminals indicted by Mueller. The criminals who have settled are paying $42M into the federal treasury. The investigation cost only $25M. Is math really that difficult for you?
Old Guy says
34 people who pleaded out rather than bankrupt their families, paying legal costs to defend the indefensible. Please note that not one of those 34 was found guilty of any collusion with the Russian government. What was Mueller paid to do? That’s right he was paid to unseat a duly elected President. Bob Mueller is a failure!
LOL says
Because when Manafort gave voter info to Russians that’s not collusion, when a candidate asks Russia to hack that’s not collusion, when you lie about a meeting about adoptions that’s not collusion, when you are caught on a wiretap talking to russian spies that’s not collusion, when you want to set up a back channel to russia that’s not collusion… I could go on but you clearly are an idiot..
Truth Be Told says
Sounds like your referring to the Clinton campaign and her supporters in the FBI?
harford county constitutionalist says
@LOL How do you account for Mueller concluding there was no collusion? Why would Trump need to set up a back channel to Russia with his incoming national security adviser after the election, if he already was colluding with them?
LOL says
First have you read the Mueller report? I was still under the impression we only have Barrs interpretation which is falling apart like a cheap suit. second did Jarred become the National security advisor and they didn’t tell us? You might want to expand your news choices.
harford county constitutionalist says
No but I have read the summary and Rosenstein signing off on a flawed interpretation seems a bridge too far. Can you please provide a well sourced article that outlines what you are saying? What did Jarred do exactly? How is the summary falling apart?
LOL says
Google is your friend try it you will like it.
harford county constitutionalist says
Not if you want an unbiased answer.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/how-google-could-rig-the-2016-election-121548
LOL says
Yet you found an article written by a least bias highly factual source…. Well done sir keep up the good work (insert golf clap here)
harford county constitutionalist says
The sarcasm is strong in this one…
LOL says
Sorry I do that with challenged people, I’m trying to do better.
harford county constitutionalist says
I know people like you read that nyt report and get really excited about anonymous second hand non specific accusations, that are usually proven false within a few weeks. Even really super smart people like you can be controlled by democracy integrity project narrative…
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/03/11/trump-russia_20_dossier-tied_firm_sending_dc_journalists_daily_collusion_briefings.html
LOL says
Unfortunately real clear investigations is a right leaning site that uses questionable facts. And you were doing so good.
harford county constitutionalist says
Wow! Real clear investigations is considered to the right about as much as abc news and NYT is considered left and they don’t even get broadcast rights from the government.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/abc-news/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/real-clear-investigations/
Even weirder Dan Jones is mentioned in the House intelligence report talking about how wealthy donors continued to pay fusion gps even after the election.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/04/27/donors-50-million-steele-fusion-gps/
Almost like fusion gps was compensating reporters for publishing their stories.
https://thefederalist.com/2017/12/04/fusion-gps-scandal-implicates-media-possible-pay-publish-scheme/
LOL says
Yea but real clear investigations screwed the pooch on facts. They don’t use them…. I think that’s what is referred to as ” fake news” Whomp whomp….
harford county constitutionalist says
Do you mean something like this?
https://nypost.com/2017/06/08/comey-says-times-story-about-team-trump-russia-ties-was-false/
Or this?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42214214
or this?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/new-york-times-forced-to-heavily-amend-another-supposed-kt-mcfarland-scoop
harford county constitutionalist says
The point I am making is abc and nyt deserve the same skepticism as breitbart and vox. All media has a bias. Reporters are lazy and willing to print whatever someone hands them.
LOL says
Clearly you have no understanding of the media. LOL
harford county constitutionalist says
I know on this subject the media sure seem to get it wrong every time they use an anonymous source.
SoulCrusher says
There was no collusion because there wasn’t a concerted effort by the parties involved to work together to influence the outcome of the 2016 Presidential election. However, there was collusion between current members of the US government and the DNC to hand Hillary Clinton the nomination of the Democratic Party and that is something that the Democratic Party will have to deal with. By betraying the will of the Democratic electorate and allowing Hillary to buy the nomination, the Democratic Party did rig their primary, which Bernie Sanders should have probably won. I can’t believe any member of the Democratic Party would ever trust the hierarchy of their party to ever be honest involving their primary again. The Democratic Party is the political party of verified treason and you are all overlooking the fact that the Clinton’s did use Hillary’s position as Secretary of State to line the pockets of her close supporters and family by accepting bribes from foreign governments in exchange for considerations in the interests of those same foreign governments. Your party is a lost cause and everyone who supports it is either a traitor or an idiot. Which are you?
Mike Callahan says
Only idiots or morons call everybody they disagree with a Traitor! Which one are YOU?
SoulCrusher says
I only call those whom war against the Constitution a traitor. Those who wish the overthrow of the Constitutional Republic for a Democracy of a mob are traitors. It’s not my fault you don’t know what treason is and believe that the heresy your political party preaches is correct. I can disagree with many a person and treason never crossed my mind. However, when it comes to the politics of the current Democratic party, treason is the only word that describes it. You can not win a war of words or of wits with me Callahan, because for one you don’t know the meaning of the words you use and second you are a half wit. If you can’t see the grave wrong HRC did to your party in 2016 by buying the election, then you aren’t even worth debating. Since you don’t know what treason is and you don’t have the vocabulary to understand the words you type, I’m just going to have to call you an idiot. Don’t worry Mike, I’m sure it won’t take long for you to graduate to fuktard…..
WTF says
You sound like you gt a case of that windmill cancer.
SoulCrusher says
Oh no! Not the dreaded windmill cancer!?!?!
Mike Callahan says
Re: Soul Crushe
You stated “The Democratic Party is the political party of verified treason…”
Thats defining anyone who dissents or disagrees with you as “treasonous”
Stop dodging the question!
Only Idiots or Morons call everyone they disagree with a traitor! Which are you? Are you an Idiot or a Moron?
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Treating_dissent_as_treason
SoulCrusher says
Mike, since you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about and are about the most annoying traitor on the Dagger, I’m going to inform you one last time why you’re a fuktard. ANY attempt to abrogate or diminish the right that are guaranteed to us as unalienable rights in the US Constitution is TREASON. ANY attempt to war against the United States, it’s people or the Constitution that did ordain this government is also TREASON. It’s not that you are a traitor because I disagree with you. It’s that you are a traitor because you’re ideas, whims and illusions are that of a traitor. You want to ban guns. You want everyone to conform to the Democracy you think rules. You wish to steal the rights of every American so you and the so called minority of this Country can overthrow the Constitutional Republic. Mike, you are a complete and utter traitor, a liar and a thief. If I were to come face to face with you and you identified yourself to me as Mike Callahan whom debates me on the Dagger, I’d feel obligated to smack you in your face. I don’t like or agree with traitors because I’m not a traitor. That’s the difference between us. You see treason as a coming change for good and I see it as the dark hand of the idiocy of an uneducated common people. Why would you encourage someone to give up their rights? Is it because you are too afraid to exist in a free society? Before you retort, remember there hasn’t been any man owned by another since the Civil War and the only slavery that currently exists is that of this government that your Democratic Party made over the people that allow it to fraudulently rule them. If you want, I will concede that maybe the Democratic party isn’t about just treason, it’s about intentionally reeducating or not educating the public into being a large mass of fuktards, just like you.
Phil says
Andy with all the new information coming out it’s refreshing to see you strap yourself to the Trump who is going down like the Titanic.
Seriously? says
This forum is full of folks like Harris who either haven’t read the Mueller Report and Constitution or are willing to sell their soul for this vile man who is president.
The Central Scrutinizer says
In Rome when an attempt on Ceaser failed they would draw a warm bath, have some wine and open their veins.
The Central Scrutinizer says
The noose is tightening, its refreshing to see that the Atty Gen of the United States on the job. I find it hysterical that the same people who want the already view-able Mueller report to be unredacted have a problem with declassification. The simple fact is there was an attempted coup. This cannot be tolerated. We will soon see who was behind the coup. We will see how far up the food chain the coup goes. We already know , thanks to the Washington Post reporting, this was coordinated in the oval office. No amount of propaganda can help them. No amount of Nadlers and Shiffs can help them. The simple fact is there was an attempted coup.
IF YOUR GOING TO SHOOT AT THE KING………..DONT MISS !!!!!
LOL says
There is overwhelming evidence Russia meddled in the elections to hand trump the presidency and zero evidence there was a coup. Stop being so gullible and step away from the koolaid
SoulCrusher says
You’re a complete liar. Do you really think some Russian “bots” changed the opinions of the electorate in order to vote for Trump? If so, then you’re an idiot. There was no Russian interference, there was interference by the FBI and James Comey. Let me be very clear, there is NO LAW that foreign nations can not use social media to try and influence citizens of other nations to think a certain way. US Code is NOT international law and no foreign nation has to abide by the US Code unless they are on US soil and even then they have diplomatic immunity. There is a law that states no member of government can interfere with any election, both State and Federal. The FBI and James Comey are guilty and did so on behalf on Obama, Clinton and the rest of the treasonous Democratic Party. I’ve got a better idea. Why don’t you stop drinking that Democratic horse piss and start being an American…..
maroon says
They literally hacked into 2 Florida election systems but the Governor was forced to sign a NDA by trump . Who knows what else trump is keeping secret. 17 Intelligence agencies agree they effected the election. Are you stupid or willfully ignorant??
capt Obvious says
And if that isn’t bad enough now we find out McConnell knew all abut the hacking and kept it from the public while accepting millions in donations from Deripaska along with lucrative business deals and appointing Vitters wife to a lifetime federal judge appointment. The republicans are in desperation mode to deflect investigations to their wacky conspiracy theories their moronic base eats up.
SoulCrusher says
The hack had nothing to do with election results. 2 voter databases were hacked into and those same databases could have been accessed by any member of a campaign in those two counties. So what. The hack didn’t effect any vote tallies nor did it effect the election itself in any way. Just out of curiosity, do you really think the 17 intelligence agencies you referred to don’t hack into Russian computers as well? Or any other country’s computers for that matter. Do you really think those same intelligence agencies are NOT using their powers to hack into everyone else’s computers? Do you really think that the citizens of this country are safe because of those 17 intelligence agencies? I’ve got news for you. Your country doesn’t give a damn about you. The only thing your government cares about is your contribution to the pool of money they collect from the American people on a paycheck to paycheck basis, that is nothing more than a forced interest free loan by your government, to do nothing but pay for the interest on already accrued debt. The hack into an election database didn’t effect the vote, nor does it mean a damn thing because those same hackers could’ve just simply bought the database and your treasonous government, including those treasonous intelligence agencies, would have probably gladly sold it to them.
Harford County Public Schools says
If the Russians were so keen on getting Trump elected why were two of Steele’s sources highly place Kremlin officials, according to notes take by an Obama state department official?
https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/16/steele-dossier-sources-state-department/
LMAO says
Apparently you have absolutely no idea how blackmail works. You may want to expand your reading material beyond Tucker Carlsons Daily Caller….
harford county constitutionalist says
https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/21/obama-era-state-department-official-provides-more-evidence-of-fisa-abuse/
Let me guess the federalist, run by the husband of Meghan McCain, must be in the bag for trump too? They must run their disinformation campaign out of that Miami Consulate…
The Central Scrutinizer says
Mueller says, NO NEXUS…NO OBSTRUCTION. He explains it in eleven different ways. What do you not understand?
Wrong says
Obviously you are unable to read and process the report because nowhere in the report does it say that. It is available free on the DOJ website, I would highly recommend educating yourself on what it actually says and not what fox news wants you to think it says.
Really says
It will be refreshing to see China do everything in its power to get trump out of office. These new republican election guidelines are going to destroy trump.
The Central Scrutinizer says
Every time i come to the Dagger the Democrats seem more and more desperate. The driving force behind the Democrats today-sadly-is race fear mongering. “OMG WHITY GONNA GET YOU!” seems to be the net sum of the democrats message. Its a sad state of affairs.
Very Sad says
Agreed the Democrats have lost it and are playing their last hole card “race”. Sure there are still some inbred racist red necks out there. If you have recently watched MSNBC white supremacist are behind every bush and in every shadow. This is a total falsehood being spread by people who hate President Trump. If you surveyed one thousand Americans and asked any of them if they could tell you the whereabouts of any white supremacy groups I would bet that no one could give you an answer. MSNBC seeks out these small pockets of these sociopaths and try to make viewers believe that they are a far worse threat than what they are. Should they exist? I wish not but the real underlying motive is to promote racial divide and blame it on the President. Democrats have made it very clear that don’t seem to care what happens to our country, our economy, or whatever if they can pin it on President Trump. They don’t care what rules or laws that need to be broken if it will ultimately take down the President. So very sad. I will never forget last hurricane season when Puerto Rico was so badly devastated. Chuck Todd on his meet the press program was almost elated that there were two more hurricanes coming which might also hit Puerto Rico again so he would get another shot at the way President Trump managed the incidents. The people on Puerto Rico were just necessary “collateral damage”. The Democrats have only one objective. Destroy President Trump. It really doesn’t seem to matter about anything else. Very sad.
Harford County Teacher says
Looking forward to what AG Barr will find in his investigations.
#MAGA2020