From Congressman Andy Harris:
WASHINGTON, DC: On the Fourth of July, Congressman Andy Harris, M.D. (MD-01) will attend the Bel Air Fourth of July Parade. This event is open to the public.
Bel Air Fourth of July Parade
Date: July 4, 2018
Time: 6:00 – 7:30 PM
Starting Location: Intersection of Main Street (Rt. 924) and Idlewild Street, Bel Air, MD
Ending Location: Intersection of Main Street (Rt. 924) and Gordon Street, Bel Air, MD
FedUp says
#Flipthefirst
HarfordOldTimer says
Even ActBlue, the group that Allison Galbraith helpped raise money for until she started her campaign, is not wasting money on the Maryland 1st. While I believe Democrats will take control of the House in the mid-terms, Maryland 1st is not in play. Miller stacked the deck to make sure only 1 Republican can get a Congressional Seat in Maryland. It’s a ugly looking district meant to get as many Republican as possible in Maryland 1st.
Cdev says
I know if it wasn’t Gerrymandered Harris wouldn’t live in the 1st and likely couldn’t get elected.
Mary Baumiller says
Glad I wont be there! Time for a change and term limits in every office!
Mary Klip says
Your absence will make the parade just a bit prettier, Dog.
Deborah Kendrick says
Watching the parade yesterday, Andy Harris passed by. There was hardly any applause or cheers at all, at least in the area of where I was standing (about a block in radius) No one even waved back at him. I very noticeably turned my back on him. If I had been able to do so, I would have taken a knee.
lee bredeen says
HEY DEMORAT Look elseware. you POS
Defender of American freedoms says
Hey @zzwipe. I will defend her right to free speech. What are you one of those anti-American, POS, Russian- loving Repubicon?
Vicki says
Course he won’t have to answer any constituents’ questions or concerns. #flipthefirst. !!!
Mary Mary quite contrary says
By attending I am assuming he will be doing it by phone, much like he “attends” his town halls.
#bluemaryland says
#byebyeandy
Good try says
Love the Allison/Allison supporters on here. Andy hasn’t done great but your liberal democratic anti police and anti government policies won’t help. #keepthefirstrepublican
LMAO says
Liberal democrats with anti police and government policies.,,, Those damn liberals are out buying guns at record levels to combat the oppressive government….Did you suffer a traumatic brain injury?
LOL
SoulCrusher says
Those liberal Democrats should be out arming themselves to the teeth. Bad times are coming and I urge ALL Americans to arm themselves, whether it is against the Codes of treason or not. You need to be able to defend yourself from anything wishing you harm, including the police if they come to commit treason against you. The laws of the Brady Bill are unconstitutional and are therefore NULL and VOID. There is no American citizen that should be deprived of their rights to own a gun and if a gun shop won’t sell you one get it from an illegal source. The rule of unconstitutional law will soon be replaced by the rule of Martial Law and you need to defend yourselves from REAL criminals and maybe even those that serve the government you all think that is your friend. “Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
Funny stuff says
Right to bear arms. Yup know the constitution, are you really that dumb
SoulCrusher says
If my government would start acting lawfully then maybe I would support it. “No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.” Bonnett v. Vallier, 116 N.W. 885, 136 Wis. 193 (1908). “Powers not granted (to any government) are prohibited.” United States v. Butler, 297 U.S 1, 68 (1936). If my government would stop committing treason against WE THE PEOPLE then maybe I’d support it. “When a judge acts where he or she does not have jurisdiction to act, the judge is engaged in an act or acts of treason.” Zeller v. Rankin, 101 S.Ct. 2020, 451 U.S. 939, 68 L.Ed 2d 326. You say anti-government and anti-police policies, however I say that the current policies are Anti- AMERICAN and are treasonous to WE THE PEOPLE. If you are a Republican or a Democrat and you wish to betray WE THE PEOPLE of these United States, then you are my enemy…..I support change and I don’t care who brings about that change, as long as it is WE THE PEOPLE who are benefitting from that change.
Cdev says
I’m a moderate republican and I think he is an opportunist of the largest type
It is says
Perhaps, but we get one Republican district in MD….so it is what it is. Hopefully we can get a better (R) to replace him one day.
Crazy liberal Allison wouldn’t have stood a chance.
#NOTHANKSFLIPTHE1st
Mike Callahan says
What has Tony G got against hispanic immigrants? And what is he going to do about racist attitudes among too many police officers?
Mikes fan club says
He is going to urge you to sign up to be a cop since you seem to know everything. They would tear you up in Edgewood Mike, but he’ll give it a try. Every idiot has there day of glory, good luck pal
Name Withheld says
Soul Crusher: Resisting arrest is a good way to commit suicide.
If I were still in my youth, I would attend Bel Air’s 4th of July parade and throw rotten banana peels at rep harris
SoulCrusher says
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. Affirmed by the Supreme Court in John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
Just Tired Of You says
So did you charge the cops when they arrested you for your dope smoking in Edgewood years ago?
SoulCrusher says
I got moderated. Oh well….
Just Tired Of You says
It happens, just like getting caught smoking dope.
SoulCrusher says
The laws regarding CDS are unconstitutional. No treaty or clause of commerce, can be used to infringe upon the 4th and 14th Amendments, nor can they be applied to regulating the behavior of WE THE PEOPLE. Quite frankly, Marijuana is legal if you state you don’t consent to the statute that makes it appear to be illegal. The commerce clause decision in 1996, that supposedly allows the government to have an interest in the price of CONTRABAND, is pathetic. Why would the government have an interest in CONTRABAND? They don’t even have the authority to declare something CONTRABAND. Look, your a treasonous pig and I don’t see why we even need to have this interaction. When I die, I know I never did anything to harm my fellow man. When you die, you will know that you are a piece of garbage that should never have been allowed to share the air with WE THE PEOPLE. That’s the difference between you and I. You’re a traitor and I’m not.
Come on Now says
“The laws regarding CDS are unconstitutional,” If they are how is it you were caught, arrested,charged and you eventually entered an Alford Plea? By entering that plea you acknowledged they were constitutional. And you are answering my thread, can’t help it, addicted like to other things? And please live a long and prosperous life, I wish you weren’t so much like your buddy Jane, We The People and all the other names he uses. Happy 4th and Birthday to America.
SoulCrusher says
Wrong. The Alford Plea was a result of extortion and coercion by Edward Thomas Maxwell Jr., Christopher Mark Tabone and William Carr. There was no admittance to constitutionality or consent to the law because of those specific facts. The wet ink signature obtained on the contract of conviction is an act of fraud by the State of Maryland and the treasonous Judicial Officers of the Harford County Circuit Court. I was called to this thread and I will weave whatever fabric I feel like on your thread, boy. Anyway, happy 4th to you too, son, even though you should probably weep when you see our flag because of your treasonous opinions.
Bookem says
Hope he is in a car with the sign “I whined about my federally subsidized health care being delayed. You’re not allowed to.”
SoulCrusher says
No, WE THE PEOPLE are tired of you. No, I didn’t charge 8 masked terrorists threatening to break my door down when I was naked in my home. I opened the door, but refused their entry. They forced their way in, threw me on the floor to take naked video of me. Aaron Penman even tried to flip me over so they could record my penis. They then preceded to conduct an illegal home invasion, enforcing law they have no authority to do, completely without my consent. I would not cooperate so David Waldsmith then threatened to taser me while I was handcuffed behind my back and seated in a chair. No miranda rights were read. John Lastner even exited the building when I told him he sounded like Sylvester the Cat. “Sufferin Sucotash”, I really pissed him off. Now I have a question for you. Did they flog your mother for giving birth to a traitor against the United States?
Come on Now says
That sounds so terrible. I’m glad you were not injured. But you still were arrested , charged and took an Alford Plea. And all those officers were never charged? Right? Now if you were a victim of say the Baltimore GTF we would be having a different conversation. And here you are resorting to name calling, so undignified. God Bless The USA and State of Maryland and Harford County. You take care , time to go see some fireworks @ Harbor. You be careful now, OK?
SoulCrusher says
I will call anyone of those terrorists any damn name I want to and I’ll tell off any person who tries to rationalize what happened as well. I remember that incident like it was yesterday and I will not forgive or forget that day. That was the day that I realized I was NOT safe in my own home and no member of society is safe from the terrorists that reside within the government of Maryland. We are safer from REAL criminals than we are from our own government, whose salary we pay. Well, you guys pay because I’m not paying my government to commit acts of treason against me ever again. If I have no right, they have no tax. If I have no job, they have no tax. If I can’t live in my own home, they have no tax. If I am labeled a Felon even though it is prohibited by the Maryland Constitution, they have no tax. I’m sure by now you get the picture.
Mrs Just Asking says
Is this the same Aaron Penman that’s running for office and is a Sgt now in the Police Dept? Why do you think he did that to take a picture of your private parts?
SoulCrusher says
Yes, one and the same. He was not trying to take a picture of my private parts, he was trying to flip me off my stomach so another officer could VIDEO my private parts. He even told me to stop resisting and I told him I’m not resisting, I’m F’ing naked. He could not flip me over because a halfling can’t roll a man of my size over off of his stomach, so he then went and got me a pair of sweat pants to put on so I’d roll off of my stomach and the illegal search could commence. Let me be very clear, he was aware of the officer with the camera and deliberately tried to roll me over to get my private parts on camera. Needless to say, my private parts were pretty shriveled up with the fear of 8 armed terrorists forcing their way into my home that I occupied alone. A few months later, still images of that video did show up at the Coordinator of Commissioners Office in Annapolis thru the hands of Diane Ebert, an enemy of mine that I got removed as Administrative Commissioner in Anne Arundel County because of her acceptance of sporting tickets from the Cox Bail Bonding Company in exchange for favors involving the solicitation of bail bonds. Sean Marston and Aaron Penman did knowingly use a wanton trespass onto private property to conduct a dog sniff in an electronically secured building, thru the limited commons and to the door of my condominium unit in violation of the 4th and 14th amendments and the ruling of the 2001 Kyllo v. US case. Whether he meant to or not, Penman did violate his oath as a police officer in support of the US Constitution and the Maryland Constitution, committed Constitutional violations and I do believe that disqualifies him to hold any public office in Maryland. My case wasn’t the only of its kind as it was common for Marston and Penman to pull this trick on homes all over Harford County in order to further Cassilly’s Racketeering ring against WE THE PEOPLE of the State of Maryland. I guess they wanted the video so they could check out another man’s Johnson in their spare time. Maybe they get off on it. I don’t know. I never did anything like that to any person I ever had to apprehend for the courts and I think it was an act of terrorism.
Mrs Just Asking says
Wow that sounds terrible, what ever happened with the case?. Did you tell them in court what happened? Tell the Chief or someone.? Probably said it was ok? Are they as bad as those 8 guys from Baltimore PD?
SoulCrusher says
The case is now permanently closed. It will never be reopened. The court doesn’t care what happened because the court isn’t interested in the truth. The court record will show that I am a molester, a child rapist and a heroin dealer because that is what I am NOT. The court record shows that I grew large amounts of heroin in my bedroom and that I have herpes on my eyelids. It will also show that I fondled a two month old girl’s twat and then raped a cat. That is what the court will say happened because that is what Edward Thomas Maxwell wanted it to say. There is no Chief, only a Sheriff and the Sheriff in your County isn’t allowed to act as a Constitutional Officer. He must fraudulently enforce a code of treason on the people who elected him because he isn’t really in control of his office. He is a stooge to whatever Administrative Judge is in charge, including the Nubian fille de joie who currently sits in that position. There is no honor or integrity in the Maryland State Police and the entire Maryland Judicial Department is an act of treason against the United States. Just for the record, the men in Baltimore have more integrity in them than the entire Harford County Task Force of 2009 and you can take that to the bank. So the next time you want to ask a question, don’t bother, because the answers you seek can only come from the man sleeping next to you.
Mrs Just Asking says
Well young man, I’m sorry that happened to you. I am taken back by your language to me as I was merely asking a question. I have no idea who you think you’re talking to in that manner. I was seeking information because I think my nephew was done an injustice by the police here, and the lawyer which cost a lot of money seemed buddy-buddy with the DA and Judge, and that was why I was interested in your side. I was told by a friend to browse through this public forum and posts on stories for information. I have no idea who those people you speak of are and where we moved from the Sheriff is charge of the courts only and the police were the ones who patrolled the streets. I can tell you that I have or had a few friends who sons and daughters are police here, and now I get it, she said a few times she SG2Zwas a Deputy not a police officer. I think that explains more than enough then I need to know, and you should know , not that it matters anyway, I’m in early 60’s and I don’t sleep next to any man, as my husband died over 4 years ago of a rare cancer. Even though I can see you’re upset at this whole thing, at least I think you should apologize to me for your language, even though I don’t expect one. I can see I won’t be reading any more from this page. Good night and best of luck to you despite you disrespecting me.
Mrs Just Asking says
I made a mistake, she’s a SGT and a Deputy is what i meant to say.
SoulCrusher says
Damn Dagger Censoring…You gotta admit that was a good one…..
SoulCrusher says
So was it the words I used in the reply or were you just slamming me for the previous comment? Just Asking …
SoulCrusher says
OK, hows this? I apologize that I don’t believe a word out of your mouth. If you are for real, then your nephew is screwed. It’ been a long time since I distressed a woman in her 60’s. How bout you come to Baltimore? I’ll pop 3 Levitra and we’ll pitch a tent. Does that suit your fancy? We can write false narratives together….
SoulCrusher says
Alright, third times the charm. Your story is as believable as the Russian investigation. Your family member will be persecuted like everyone else. Emotional distress in a woman in her 60’s is a real turn on. Come to Butthead. I’ll pop 3 peter pills and we’ll rent a wreck. Will that be good for you? We can write fantasy “post”s together…
SoulCrusher says
Aaaahhh, it was the names of the peter pills that got me censored. You learn something everyday.
Harry Johnson says
@Mrs Just Asking….Not sure about your story, but what SoulCrusher describes is relatively accurate at a high level. Your attorney being buddies with the DA does not surprise me. I have heard many reports of Defense Attorneys who do little for their clients and in fact work for the interested of the States Attorney Office. Two of them Adam and Wayne were very active on Dagger during Mr. Rydens failed campaign. Much of this stems from the current States Attorney (Joe Cassilly) whose time is up and should have been put out years ago. Fortunately the voters kept Little Joe (David Ryden) from becoming the next SA. Hopefully the new SA will be able to effect some change in the Harford County SAO.
As far as the HCSO I would not trust them if my life depended on it. Its also plagued by the good old boy system, which has run rampant for years. I will not say that all Deputies are corrupt, but they have their fair share of corrupt Deputies who are in leadership positions (names like Georgiades and Penman immediately come to mind). I have never been impressed with how they conduct themselves.
Then the Judges well they come from the pool of States Attorneys and/or Defense Attorneys who are in bed with the States Attorney. The judges typically do not act impartial, but very much lean towards the States Attorney whims and desires. Some more so than others, but its not unusual to get very bad decisions from the judges.
Overall the whole system is a broken mess and you should hope to get out of it with the least amount of damage you can. There is no such thing as justice in Harford County. If someone tells you otherwise then they are lying to you,
Your best bet is to leave Harford County. Life is to short to deal with the backwater poophole of a system they have.
SoulCrusher says
Man, you can talk about me all you want, but you should really look up Valerie Carlton and Google her as well. She was indicted for molesting her daughter yet she was innocent of all charges. Joseph Cassilly had her held without bail because she was Jewish and her husband was friends with him from Church. While in jail her newborn baby was placed in foster care by the traitor William Carr. While in foster care, her baby died from neglect. She was being tortured by the Harford County Sheriff’s Department while she was in jail and was forced to live in her cell for 23 hours a day with 1 hour to get out and stretch her legs daily. During her 1 hour out, she was informed about her baby’s death while writing a letter. She started screaming and wailing in grief so that wonderful Deputy told her to shut up and get back in your cage. She refused and he then forced her in the cell. During the altercation she tried to stab her captor with a flexible rubber that was in her hand, that simply could cause no harm. She was then indicted for assault by Cassilly’s disgrace of a SA Office. At court, she pled to an ALFORD PLEA to a violation of ex parte order instead of the baby raping charge and was allowed release on bail for the fictitious assault on a cowardly Correctional Officer. She fled to New York. Cassilly tried to use the United States Marshall’s to bring her back from New York on a misdemeanor assault case. She fought it in New York and was granted asylum instead of being forced to return to face the SATAN known as Judge William Carr. William Carr is a traitor and was responsible for the death of Valerie Carlton’s child. He should be put on trial for murder, instead he retired with honors. This is what really happens in Harford County and it is all treason against the United States. William Carr, you should hang yourself you POS.
SoulCrusher says
“flexible rubber pen”
Harry Johnson says
@SoulCrusher…..I will do some research on her. I am sure there is case after case of the abuse those in positions of power have inflicted on the citizens of Harford County. One name seems to always be a common theme and that is Joe Cassilly. The “Tough on Crime” States Attorney whose methods have only marginally made crime rates better than anywhere else in Maryland. Comparing Harford to Baltimore City is obviously not a fair comparison for many reasons. Yet Cassilly has no issue using that comparison to justify his tactics.
I am so glad to see him go and take along with him his protege David Ryden. Unsure what the new SA will be able to do to return professionalism and integrity to the SAO, but he cant do any worse than Dave Ryden from my perspective.
Harry Johnson says
@MRSJUSTASKING….this is what you can expect in Harford County:
Valerie Carlton was falsely indicted on 28 felony charges in Harford County, Maryland, in May 2009. Ms. Carlton was held on $10,000,000 bail in the Harford County Detention Center in solitary confinement for over 13 months. Eventually all 28 felony charges were dropped for lack of evidence. Prosecutors don’t usually give up on 28 charges if there is any hint that wrong has been done.
Maxwell's Silver Hammer says
Do you two A$$HOLES really think that lady will ever answer you after how you replied to her and your trash? And that lady seems genuine and probably revealed too much personal information here than she should have. Hopefully someone will tell her, but doubt she will ever respond to you two scumbags. I would have shown her some respect, even if I thought she was yanking our chain. You two are just maggots frothing from a roadkill’s body. And I have no problem speaking to you at your level.
Harry Johnson says
Maxwell….I have said nothing but respectful things to whomever She/He is. Is it the truth about Harford County that hurts your feelings? If so well the truth hurts. We know it don’t we.
BTW I am not expecting the lady to answer me as I did not ask her a question. Nor do I care if she answers me. I know reading is fundamental and perhaps you found a question in my information/statement. To be clear there is no question in what I provided.
Good Luck to you Maxwell…..
PS go watch the YouTube video link I posted. Very interesting indeed the notoriety that Harford County has in this case and many other undocumented cases of abuse. Is Harford County in the United States of America? (That is a question in case you missed it). Some must wonder how such a place continues to behave the way it does.
Maxwell's Silver Hammer says
Well, calling what seems to be a rather legitimate woman in her 60’s , which again she shouldn’t have reveal you called her a liar. “Harry Johnson says
July 5, 2018 at 10:24 pm
@Mrs Just Asking….Not sure about your story”
Didn’t your parents raise you to be respectful to your elders, (I’m carefully assuming you’re younger than her) or other people in general. You talk your crap to me above, well it’s funny you are still showing yourselves to be the A$$holes you are. You even think for a minute that anyone else here believes your garbage, you’re the fool. I have lived in Harford County for 48 years, never been arrested and had 2 speeding tickets in my life. It’s obvious you two have been arrested and been in jail, so blame everyone else but yourself. I have nothing but respect for the HCSO , MSP and local police, the States Attorney and Judges, but there again I never have been involved with them. I bet if something bad was happening to you or, your family you would be calling those same police you hate so much. And if someone was arrested you be calling the same States Attorney.
So good luck to you Harry Johnson , don’t violate the law and stay out of jail. Don’t like it here, move and don’t come back to the county. I don’t care who you are or where you live and don’t like it in the United States so long. Put your Youtube video on a loop, and watch it, and keep wishing it is true. That’s the statement to your stupid questions.
SoulCrusher says
Whatever, everybody knows the Dagger is a group of about maybe 5 people using different screen names to drive a narrative of complete and utter idiocy. “Mrs Just Asking” is just another screen name being used on here just like “Just Asking” and “Just Saying”. She is a figment of the imagination and I don’t care about upsetting her because she was probably Marc “Always” Eaton or his daughter. Listen, I would believe that Wonder Woman was giving lap dances at the strip bar down the street before I would believe her narrative of being told to get on the Dagger and reading some comments about the Harford County Police abuses. Normal people don’t get on the Dagger. This is a Racist Republican alternate reality website directed at the kissing of pork bottoms. Plain and simple, if you’re not a cop, judge or some other traitor against the Constitution then you are a person wronged by them, making us the criminals in their eyes. The fact is the Law is the criminals up in your County and I love screwing with these idiots on here. One more thing, if I really thought that Tom Maxwell was on here running his mouth, I would hop on plane to Miami and rent a car to drive to Key West myself, just to find him and pass my judgement on him for being a traitor. Comprende? Good.
Harry Johnson says
@Maxwell… I called her no such thing….You have gall to sit on here and make BS allegations of which you have no basis. Then proceed to lecture me about respecting my elders. As Stossel would say “Give me a Break”.
BTW….I fell asleep reading your diatribe. God only knows what your agenda is.
If you want to have a pissing contest do it with somebody else because that Dog don’t hunt with me!….Mind Your Own Business.
BTW look up the name Harry Johnson….its very much a real name Moron.
Maxwell's Silver Hammer says
Well here’s further proof of what an A$$hole you are. You and your buddy Harry Johnson, and probably all his other screen names, ( I agree with you on that) turned this story from comments regarding Andy Harris to this police conversation. And yes people do read other stories on here because I see you post your crap on many other stories, unless others are using your name? Another thing I believe someone , somewhere mentioned this site to her, and she tried reading it. You’re such the A$$hole, she seemed to be on your side, or wanted to here it. I was told about this place a few years ago when there was the heated Sheriff race. You seem to have a problem with everyone, so I don’t think it’s everyone else, but you.
Are you drunk or stoned now? Watch out the police might come and get you…again…
Harry Johnson says
@MAXWELL….The truth hurts I know…..Provided the documented evidence you still choose to put your head in the sand and believe your HCSO, SAO, Judges and the like could not possibly be what they are. The problem with that is the evidence says otherwise.
As well as many citizens who have had to deal with your Fun Loving HCSO, SAO, and Judges. The documented cases are but a few of the many such cases. Quite frankly Sir your uneducated, uninformed, and therefore you should stay out of a conversation that you know nothing about.
Can you imagine being locked up for 13 months on 28 felony charges and the SAO Nolle Pro all the charges? Not only locked up, but put in solitary confinement. The end result is dismissal of the charges? I don’t know how any person in their right mind could say that is right in the United States Of America. It happened right here in your Harford County. 48 years as a resident Harford County.
You sit with your head in the sand if you wish. Hopefully something like this won’t happen to you. Don’t be so sure. But for the Grace of God So Go I is something you should be thinking about before you judge others.
Harry Johnson says
@Maxwell Do you kiss your wife with that mouth. I am sorry reality isn’t what you want it to be, but truly that is your problem not ours.
SoulCrusher says
Yeah right, like I changed the track of the conversation of this pathetic string of comments. You see, that’s your problem. You have no reading comprehension. GO BACK and READ, son. I was called upon. I delivered. Now, I’m eating Pizza.
Harry Johnson says
Lest we forget about the infamous Graber Case….where Casilly and his goons decided to try and charge a Air National Guard Service Member with a Felony over a traffic incident. A felony of Wiretap because this person had the audacity to record the Police Officer that stopped him. That Felony was also dropped because it was plain and simple abuse of power by Cassilly and Dave Ryden. The motivation behind bringing such a charge is unclear. It is clear however who was behind it.
These are only the examples of what is in the public view. God only knows how many have been abused by this system. Most abused don’t follow thru for justice because frankly its to costly for the average citizen to fight the government who has unlimited deep pockets.
Of course this system is very good for the Defense Attorney community who make sure and get their cut at the expense of their clients.
Its a Pathetic State of Affairs in Harford County. Best hope you never have to deal with them.
Harry Johnson says
Very interesting video on Valerie Carlton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9ekOc1BjVo&feature=youtu.be
Whose name is common? Yes its Joe Cassilly!
The Defense Rests says
*would you feel comfortable
Harry Johnson says
Maxwell do u have any other ignorant things you would like to say? Especially given the conversation didn’t involve you until you decided to insert yourself.
U Got 2 Be Kidding says
Must be a new rule on here, everyone must check with you before they can post anything or join any thread? Who died and made you the King of this land. You’re an idiot. I don’t blame him for not answering you. I’m done with you as well.
Harry Johnson says
Really? Another one that wants to provide his/her opinion because they too are not happy their fantasy world doesn’t exist here in reality land. Bless Your Heart and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. ?
Harry Johnson says
Would anybody else like to see who has the biggest pecker? Instead try explaining why Harford County is so Fed up to lock up a Mom for13 months and then drop the charges.
I don’t see how anyone can justify such behavior on the part of the system.
SoulCrusher says
Not only what you said, but preventing a Mom from her right to see her children grow up, having her child die from negligence in foster care set up by the State and allowing her other child to be taken to a foreign country so that she or her family never has any contact with the child is beyond sinful, it is an abomination of law and treason. I know Cassilly thinks that he MUST sin or else Jesus died for nothing, but this is ridiculous.
Harry Johnson says
Then you have the Agents for the State on here defending it and its reckless behavior by using threats and intimidation to try and silence the message, but when you call them out they have no answers. Why? Because there is no reasonable explanation.
Accountability is non existent. One day Cassilly will answer for the terrorism he has inflicted on the citizens of Harford County. Those involved will also answer to one larger than all of us. Its far worse to have the abuse of power and position than crime for those that would like to excuse it by claiming we must be “tough on crime.”
Meanwhile the real problems continue because the self absorbed individuals are to busy chasing nonsense. The facts: 28 Felonies Nolle Pro, 13 Months Solitary Confinement, and dead kids. All because the SAO could not be bothered to get to the real truth of what was actually going on. This is a story that nightmares are made of.
Disgusting state of affairs!
Mary Klip says
Mary Baumiller, we won’t miss your ugly canine face.
Wally says
Correction….Penman who did not make it out of the primary. He has been a Sgt in the HCSO. He is a crook like the rest of them in HCSO.
Mrs Just Asking says
Thank you for the correction either though I wasn’t asking you. That’s rather disrespectful to say about a police officer. If he was a crook, wouldn’t he have been arrested or fired from the police department? I would really like to hear an answer from the man who went through that ordeal.
Wally says
You either very naive, or must be joking….HCSO protects its own don’t you kid yourself.
Smack dat ass says
The purple shirt TWW jokers at the Bel Air parade are laughable. They yelled at Andy Harris, but half of them were also wearing anti government/resist materials. This group is a true joke great job fools.
It is says
Well, it is typical leftist behavior. Shout down any who do not agree with you. Your view is the only view. It is a moral imperative. This is how they try to justify their insane behavior.
Mrs Just Asking says
I made a mistake, she’s a SGT and a Deputy is what i meant to say.
Harry Johnson says
No worries….I knew what you meant. Down here they are called Deputies rather than Police Officers. Unlike Northern States the Sheriffs Department provide the bulk of policing in the South. Frankly I prefer local Police Departments and the Sheriffs Department handling court matters like its done in the Northern States. Local Police Departments are much more professional and well trained based on my experience.
A large County Sheriffs Department has its limitations and is not as effective as a local Police force. Look at Havre De Grace where they have their own Police Department. Much different experience for citizens than dealing with Deputies form the Sheriffs Office.
Maxwell's Silver Hammer says
Mr Harry Johnson, you aren’t as smart as you think you are. Before going off and spurting out statements about Maryland and Harford County, two things Hot Shot: 1. All Law Enforcement Officers in this state are trained he same under whats called the MPCTC. Look that up. And then for your information the Sheriff’s Office in Harford County is the training center for all the local police as well as surrounding counties like Cecil County Sheriff’s Office and all the local departments in that county. How do I know this, I have family that’s a high ranking member of a department and went to that very same MPTC Academy standards. A county wide larger Sheriff’s Office has more resources than any local department. Do some more homework smart one, the largest and second largest Sheriff’s Offices are in San Bernadino Ca, and LA County Sheriff’s Office. The third, Pierce County Oregon. You are sadly mistaken as you must be from the northeast. Well smarty, are you aware that the state of Connecticut doesn’t even have Sheriff’s Offices, neither does he state of Louisiana. So do some more research before running your mouth. In PA, NY and NJ, the Sheriff’s Office and State Police are responsible for the rural areas, again all having the same state mandated training. In most states the State police are also responsible to patrol the interstates as well as State Roads.
Your blind faith following of your buddy on here is foolish. And your experience, what department locked you up? Harford County Sheriff’s office I presume.
Good Day, we’re done. Hopefully you learned something. Good Luck to you Mr Harry Johnson.
Maxwell's Silver Hammer says
One other thing before I go, because I know you will respond with hatefulness, I find it funny how you keep posting different things/ opinions and trash talking. If you’re in Harford County and need help, I hope you recall this little bit of one of your posts, when that Deputy or equally trained municipal officer arrives:
“As far as the HCSO I would not trust them if my life depended on it. Its also plagued by the good old boy system, which has run rampant for years. I will not say that all Deputies are corrupt, but they have their fair share of corrupt Deputies who are in leadership positions (names like Georgiades and Penman immediately come to mind). I have never been impressed with how they conduct themselves.”
Go ahead bash them all you want, I don’t either of the named Deputies, but I’m sure if you called 911 and needed help, they would show up and help your sorry ass. Good Day.
The Defense Rests says
Good Morning @ Harry Johnson; First thing, I don’t want to get involved in your ongoing conversations with whomever, and personally have no skin in this game other than sitting here drinking coffee and reading these comical discussions. And I am stating to you respectfully and polite so there is no need for any of you to respond to me with disrespectful comments. I am a criminal defense, a well respected one in the community so I have been told, but you are mistaken. As I have traversed all the comments posted here, you claim on your “own experiences” are the motivation for your comments. Well the same is true here, based on my many years of experience. Eyewitness accounts accounts of events, especially in traumatic cases like this one, are notoriously unreliable. Hypothetically say you were involved, or charged in a case and I had the statement you provided, I exerted below. I invite you to this poor young girls trauma of witnessing this event. The first thing I would bring light to is her statement that:
“The police officer came in,” Faulkner said. “I had my back to it.
Well the young lady states she had her back to it, and from what police, other witnesses and forensic evidence revealed is the Deputy approached the man who was seated in a recluse fashion and rather than come into the establishment guns drawn he approached the suspect. The suspect without provocation immediately produced a concealed weapon and without a seconds warning shot the Deputy. The Deputy mortally wounded fell to the ground and was hold the back of a chair. She has admitted she had her back to the entire incident.
So to conclude, back to the hypothetical case, if she were to be testifying against you , as my client, I would challenge and make it well know here own admissions.
I knew both of those Deputies, had cases involving them and they were honorable officers. It was a tragic loss, as is any person’s life, but what compounds this is they were officers of the law. Would you be saying the same about a military person fighting for our freedom here or abroad being ambushed and critiquing their actions?
Once again let me state I wish no ill feelings toward any of you expressing your opinions, as I am in fact doing the same, but I invite you the thought of possibly reconsidering your stance on this event. As others have stated on here, I concur despite any ill feelings toward the police or prosecutors or Judges, we all need to respect and thank our law enforcement officers. To conclude, there are corrupt police, who should be weeded out and prosecuted, but in the big picture, there a re poor electricians, plumbers, hair stylists, etc I think you get my point, and maybe even poor performing persons in your line of work, who you feel comfortable being attacked for their actions as yours.
You have a wonderful, and safe day.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-witness-maryland-officers-shooting-20160211-story.html
“The police officer came in,” Faulkner said. “I had my back to it. The officer sat down at the man’s table. I think he exchanged one sentence. That’s when he was shot and fell back in the chair.”
Who is reliable? Who is spreading fake news? I dont make statements that can not be substantiated. FYSA.
The Defense Rests says
I apologize for the grammatical mistakes as I am being distracted by others while completing this post, I have hopefully caught them:
Good Morning @ Harry Johnson; First thing, I don’t want to get involved in your ongoing conversations with whomever, and personally have no skin in this game other than sitting here drinking coffee and reading these comical discussions. And I am stating to you respectfully and politely so there is no need for any of you involved to respond to me with disrespectful comments. I am a criminal defense attorney, a well respected one in the community so I have been told, but you are mistaken. As I have traversed all the comments posted here, you claim on your “own experiences” are the motivation for your comments. Well the same is true here, based on my many years of experience. Eyewitness accounts accounts of events, especially in traumatic cases like this one, are notoriously unreliable. Hypothetically say you were involved, or charged in a case and I had the statement you provided, I exerted below. I invite you to this poor young girls trauma of witnessing this event. The first thing I would bring light to is her statement that:
“The police officer came in,” Faulkner said. “I had my back to it.
Well the young lady states she had her back to it, and from what police, other witnesses and forensic evidence revealed is the Deputy approached the man who was seated in a recluse fashion and rather than come into the establishment guns drawn he approached the suspect cautiously with the information he secured, whether correct or not can be disputed for a long time. The suspect without provocation immediately produced a concealed weapon and without a seconds warning shot the Deputy. The Deputy mortally wounded fell to the ground and was holding the back of a chair. She has admitted she had her back to the entire incident.
So to surmise, back to the hypothetical case, if she were to be testifying against you , as my client, I would challenge and make it well know here own admissions.
I knew both of those Deputies, had cases involving them and they were honorable officers. It was a tragic loss, as is any person’s life, but what compounds this is they were officers of the law. Would you be saying the same about a military person fighting for our freedom here or abroad being ambushed and critiquing their actions?
Once again let me state I wish no ill feelings toward any of you expressing your opinions, as I am in fact doing the same, but I invite you the thought of possibly reconsidering your stance on this event. As others have stated on here, I concur despite any ill feelings toward the police or prosecutors or Judges, we all need to respect and thank our law enforcement officers.Someday we might need their help.
To conclude, there are corrupt police, who should be weeded out and prosecuted, but in the big picture, there a re poor electricians, plumbers, hair stylists, etc I think you get my point, and maybe even poor performing persons in your line of work, would you feel comfortable being attacked for their actions as yours.
You have a wonderful, and safe day.
True Blue says
Well said Mr. Defense Rests, even for criminal mouthpiece……LOL I don’t bother responding to them anymore either.
WTF-2 says
I agree with you True Blue, Mr. Defense, thank you. I’m done with them as well, might as well talk to the sewer grate. Same thing. Have a good one.
curious says
@The Defense Rests. Ooh, here’s an opportunity we never seem to get… You say you’re a criminal defense attorney so I have to ask – how many times have you gotten someone off a charge when you KNEW they were guilty as sin? And a follow up – how many times did they go on to do something even worse to a new victim?
SoulCrusher says
Better yet, why don’t you ask the “Defense Rests” how many times he has given his clients intentional ineffective assistance of counsel by NOT defending his clients rights? Why don’t you ask him what the BAR means and why the Queen gets a cut of the BAR’s action? Why don’t you ask him why he never told his clients that the Judge doesn’t have any authority to prosecute a statute without his client’s consent? Why don’t you ask him why he is to follow a Judge’s lead even though the Judge is committing treason? Why don’t you ask him why he never reported any Judge for committing treason against the United States? Why don’t you ask him why he doesn’t think he’s just a guilty of intrinsic fraud when he helps the States and the Judge to convict his clients unconstitutionally? Why don’t you ask him why he doesn’t think he is just a s much a traitor as any cop, prosecutor or Judge? Lastly, why don’t you ask him why he shouldn’t be hung by his neck like any other agent of the State committing treason? Yes, he is also an agent of the State because he is an officer of the court…..
Harry Johnson says
@defense rests, True Blue, and WTF2 (aka., Larry, Curly, and Moe [the Harford County Three Stooges])
You are hilarious! The whole bunch of you are comical!
The account is right there in Black and White and you will continue to defend a false narrative and story. BTW I didn’t bother to read thru your novel because I know it will be more of the same Good Old Boy Rhetoric and frankly I have better things to do with my time.
The only sewer grate is the one that you three come crawling up thru to go into court in Harford County. I would not be surprised if your not a bunch of ambulance chasing attorneys.
The citizens know the real deal. That’s all that counts.
Bless your Heart
Harry Johnson says
@curious…I highly doubt DefenseRests has ever gotten anyone off as most of the attorneys in Harford County are not that sharp and are beholden to the system. In fact its likely they have gotten more clients who were not guilty locked up because of their inept behavior and unwillingness to go against the SAO. If you go against the SAO or the Judges then you will have big issues later. Its a con perpetuated by all of them in the system. In fact I will bet they all sit in chambers and laugh about it over coffee and donuts.
You don’t want to get labeled as “That Lawyer”. One who actually defends his/her client and calls Bullshit when the SAO or Judge does something illegal, immoral, and unethical. After all their is always an appeal, which they can make more money on. You have to keep the con going if you are to make a living.
This is also why attorneys make good politicians. They have a natural ability to con people.
Harry Johnson says
Please anything I said is not personal…..Its a Hypothesis based on many discussions with citizens in Harford County who as a result of ineffective defense attorneys have had to grab their ankles and take it up the A$$ by the system. A system that is about as corrupt as they come.
Hopefully with a new States Attorney some badly needed change will be instituted. The system will be more about Justice and less about SAO EGOS and winning convictions at all costs regardless of guilt or innocence. If you are a Defense Attorney then you know exactly what I am talking about. Time will tell whether in 4 years we need to show this one the door like we did Ryden.
SoulCrusher says
What training? How to fraudulently enforce a treasonous code on a public that they have no authority to enforce? There is no member of the public that has to follow any rule, regulation or law of a code based on treason. Every code in the US and the several States is littered with crap they have no authority to enforce. When police enforce code that is repugnant of the Constitution they become the criminals. They become traitors to the United States and I don’t help fund traitors, nor do I call them heroes. Just because you wear a uniform brandishing a gun and a badge, doesn’t make you a hero. Look at Parkland, Florida. That guy was a decorated Deputy, yet he wasn’t a hero, he was a zero. Your actions determine who you are. Not the uniform you are wearing.
harry johnson says
WTF-2 you have no idea where I live nor is it relevant to the discussion. Once again a group wishes to live in a fantasy world. You do that if you like.
As for the rest of us we understand reality. Diversion and deception….We will rename you D&D.
I know enough to know that you don’t walk into a Panera and sit down next to a subject after his ex spouse has reported him for stalking. Not if you are properly trained anyways. Perhaps the officer became complacent and made a grave mistake that day. Nonetheless one doesn’t need to be a rocket scientist to see grave mistakes were made that day. Unfortunately it happens consistently when the HCSO is involved. Way too much.
Those officers gave their lives for me? Gee I didn’t know an event in Panera put so many in danger. Interesting though. Had they handled that call differently they would not have died. They also would not have put bystanders at risk.
Try to stick to the subject and leave the commentary out if you could. You can do it if you try.
WTF-2 says
Hey stupid, you think you know everything? Senior Deputy Dailey never sat down to the suspect. You and your “fake news” are about as reliable as Fox News. You don’t have the intelligence to be a LEO. You should do your research and here’s a hint, search for Sheriff’s Gahler’s Press conference about the incident, it’s about 10 minutes long. You know, Google it as you say. Listen to the Sheriff directly and hear the radio traffic. But you’re too stupid to find the real facts before spewing your nonsense on here. Yes every LEO puts his/her life on the line, every hour everyday even for idiots like you and that you can’t keep all your names and “pertinency” straight, change your stories and sing the same old tune all the time. Mic Drop !
Harry Johnson says
So I guess this eyewitness account must be incorrect:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/11/us/two-maryland-deputies-are-killed-in-panera-bread-shooting.html
Sophia Faulkner, 15, told The Associated Press that she and her mother had avoided sitting next to the gunman, whom she described as “sketchy’’ before witnessing him shoot the deputy.
“I saw him fall back out of his chair, and the blood started coming out,” Ms. Faulkner told The A.P. “I didn’t know how to process it. My mom said, ‘What’s going on?’ and I said, ‘Get down, someone just got shot.’”
or how about this one:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-witness-maryland-officers-shooting-20160211-story.html
“The police officer came in,” Faulkner said. “I had my back to it. The officer sat down at the man’s table. I think he exchanged one sentence. That’s when he was shot and fell back in the chair.”
Who is reliable? Who is spreading fake news? I dont make statements that can not be substantiated. FYSA.
Harry Johnson says
Yes I know how to use Google. Statements from eyewitnesses are typically much more truthful than the Sheriff whose agency might face a lawsuit.
WTF-2 says
My God you have to be the most arrogant, stupid person on this site or tied with your buddy. . A NY Times report, Chicago Tribune, and a 15 year old? How stupid can one be. Two Deputies are killed line of duty and you worry about a lawsuit. What trash you are. I see you must be a justice prudence expert too. You should be on the Supreme Court or President, of this treasonous United States. Enough, as someone said before, your stupidly is really showing. You and your arrogance is not even worth the time it takes to type this. Mic drop, unplugged from an idiot like you.
Harry Johnson says
Your response is to be expected…..How stupid can one be? Now you would like people to believe that eyewitness accounts are unreliable, but Sheriff Gahler (who wasn’t there) must know exactly what happened. I am sure if you use Google you can find other accounts, which likely differ from what Officers may have documented. That too should not surprise anyone.
Bottom Line major mistakes were made. Things could have gone very very bad for the customers in that store due to the way HCSO handled that call. Fortunately they did not. That is the point.
Hopefully they have learned and changed the way they handle calls.
Nonetheless the facts do not change because you hope/wish they would. Much like the Republican Primary the facts did not change just because you hoped they would. Hopefully I have connected things so that your pea sized head can wrap itself around the subject.
Harry Johnson says
Tied with your buddy? Whom exactly would that be? My statements based on my experience and my knowledge are mine and mine alone. Lest you attempt to distract from the real story I will present it in one sentence.
“The Harford County Government and its agents should never be trusted as numerous examples demonstrate how they twist the truth/facts.”
Its time for a government of integrity. Not one run by the Good Old Boys of Harford County. Yes it can be done! Citizens deserve better than this.
SoulCrusher says
The United States isn’t treasonous , the government is treasonous. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, a corporation who has illegally and unconstitutionally claimed the government established by WE THE PEOPLE, is treasonous. You really don’t have any clue about what you’re talking about, do you? What don’t you understand about “[p]owers not granted (to any government) are prohibited.” United States v. Butler, 297 U.S 1, 68 (1936) or “When a judge acts where he or she does not have jurisdiction to act, the judge is engaged in an act or acts of treason.” Zeller v. Rankin, 101 S.Ct. 2020, 451 U.S. 939, 68 L.Ed 2d 326? These are legitimate Supreme Court decisions that our country has forgotten because of people like you who have waged war against the Costitutional government of this country. I’m not stupid or mistaken. I am telling everyone the truth and you are perpetuating a lie. However, what would anyone expect from someone going by the name “WTF-2”. You really don’t understand anything your talking about and if you are a member of law enforcement you should resign for being a traitor against the United States.
LOL says
JFC there goes sole crusher with his sovereign citizen bs again. He must have been a real hoot in jail.
SoulCrusher says
Sovereign Citizen? Yeah right, I’m not claiming to be a sovereign citizen. I’m telling you I’m not paying a tax to help fund a bunch of cowards claiming to be heroes whose only desires is to commit treason against the United States. It wasn’t my actions that forfeited taxation across this entire country, it was the actions of a bunch of traitors wearing a gun and a badge that aren’t fit to clean my balls. There isn’t a damn one of you that have any honor or integrity because you are common criminals. You are guilty of fraud, breach of contract, violation of oath and treason. I’m not getting this from my imagination, the Supreme Court said it years ago. You have no authority to enforce ANY law that provides powers not listed in article 1 section 8 of the Constitution. There is NO POWER of any clause that can be used with the specific purpose of regulating the behavior of WE THE PEOPLE because the government can’t give itself powers that WE THE PEOPLE never gave it. Look, you’re a complete clown and I’m not going to do anything to help pay for your expenses Bozo. When you get some honor and integrity you can talk to me about jail. As far as I’m concerned, I was falsely imprisoned by a group of traitors that should be hung from their neck’s until their dead.
LOL says
Footage of sovereign citizen sole crusher getting arrested and having his purse seized.
SoulCrusher says
How does that even apply to my situation at all? I never got pulled over on a public road where an officer has the authority. I was the victim of an illegal home invasion by agents of the state using a fraudulent Administrative Warrant to invade the privacy of my home where their probable cause was unconstitutionally acquired. Look, you can put whatever video you want on here, but it only makes you look even more ignorant to the facts than you already are. I do have some questions about that video for you? Did you get off on it? Did it make you hard? Do you feel like more of a man now that you watched it? When that girl yelled “rape”, did you salivate? I bet your playing the skin flute right now.
SoulCrusher says
“The use of the highways for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot be rightfully deprived.” Chicago Motor Coach v Chicago, 169 NE 221
SoulCrusher says
“The right to travel is a well established common right that does not owe its right to existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right.”
Schactman v Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941
SoulCrusher says
“The right to operate a motor vehicle [an automobile] upon the public streets and highways is not a mere privilege. It is a right of liberty, the enjoyment of which is protected by the guarantees of the federal and state constitutions.” Berberian v. Lussier (1958) 139 A2d 869, 872, See also: Schecter v. Killingsworth, 380 P.2d 136, 140; 93 Ariz. 273 (1963).
SoulCrusher says
“The RIGHT of the citizen to DRIVE on the public street with freedom from police interference, unless he is engaged in suspicious conduct associated in some manner with criminality is a FUNDAMENTAL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT which must be protected by the courts.” People v. Horton 14 Cal. App. 3rd 667 (1971)
SoulCrusher says
“If the State converts a right (liberty) into a privilege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right (liberty) with impunity.” Shuttlesworth v City of Birmingham, Alabama, 373 U.S. 262
SoulCrusher says
“The assertion of federal rights, when plainly and reasonably made, is not to be defeated under the name of local practice.” Davis v. Wechsler, 263 U.S. 22, 24
SoulCrusher says
“The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.” Miller v. U.S., 230 F 2d 486, 489
SoulCrusher says
“No public policy of a state can be allowed to override the positive guarantees of the U.S. Constitution.” 16Am Jur 2d., Const. Law Sec. 70: (American Jurisprudence, Book 16, 2nd Ed. Section 70)
SoulCrusher says
“Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.” Miranda v. Arizona (384 U.S. 436, 1966)
SoulCrusher says
So, after all these proper decisions of law that I have re-published on the Dagger, in the name of liberty, are you still finding that video to be as funny as when you first put it out there? The girl was right. Her boyfriend didn’t need a license. She and her boyfriend were illegally arrested by a traitor to the United States and that is the bottom line. Furthermore, a license is nothing but a tax to do the normal everyday pursuits of life when we are talking about driving. So, the next time you’re out on the road and you feel that urge of your addiction to commit treason against WE THE PEOPLE, remember, 45 men and women of the fraternal brotherhood of police have already been murdered this year and this is a tragedy. Police are a necessary evil to serve and protect people who are being harmed by actual criminals. When you use your authority to commit treason as seen in the video you “posted” on this site, you can only blame yourself for the next police officer murdered. Yes, people like you are the reason police are getting a bad name and being murdered. You should go and hang yourself for being a traitor against the United States.
Harry Johnson says
Blah Blah blah blah blah blah…..The mighty HCSO who is so professionally trained. So when they respond to a call at Panera to a known person who has known issues of being violent and they walk into Panera and sit down next to him. Resulting in a Deputy being shot and killed and placing the public in harms way. Is this the well trained Police Force you speak of? When they decide to actively endorse abuse of process and refuse to bring charges even when they are handed concrete evidence that would have resulted in nipping a very bad situation in the bud very early on is this the well trained Police Force? I could provide example after example of what citizens deal with daily.
I feel deeply concerned for the Officers that work for that department. Most are good guys who get caught in a bad situation. Their reputations are smeared by the few with less than good records and qualifications.
So as I stated I would not trust the ability of the Department. If they are providing training to other departments then that only gives me even more concern. The HCSO poor reputation is well known in places as far away as Upstate NY.
BTW I love your constant diversion tactics. ” I know you will respond with hatefulness.” Nothing hateful in that statement. Its factual and to the point. It may not fit your scripted agenda, but you can not change the facts. If i am in Harford County the last people I would call would be the HCSO. Because I am quite aware of their limitations, which as a taxpayer who pays significant taxes is very troubling. However that is the system we are stuck with. Fortunately that is beginning to change. FIrst with a replacement of the States Attorney with someone who isn’t part of the network.
Yes I will “Bash” them if it is deserved. Its called accountability. Google that term if you don’t know what it means.
WTF-2 says
You live in North East Douchebag who plays with his own twat and mows grass on APG. If you’re so concerned get your lazy ass in an academy and put on a gun and badge, but being the internet bully and pussy cat you are, you’ll not make it through the first day and go do better. And you have no clue as to the true circumstances to that tragic day at Panera Bread. That has to be your ass talking but your mouth knows better. Those two Brave Deputies gave their lives for you when you were still living in Harford county. They have more medals, commendations and awards that you have Brain cells. I trust Sheriff Gahler and his force, they locked your ass up more than once, Stay in Cecil County, and stay out of our conversation until spoken to .
Sam Elliott says
Well there’s no doubt he was locked up by Harford County, but believing this guys posts are useless. He said before he recently moved out of Harford County but he always has something to say about Harford County. then on other posts he says the SA and Sheriff’s Office are corrupt. Sour Grapes? How do you know he’s just not playing us for a fool. If it’s true he lived in Harford County and said that stuff about the deputies, he’s a real jerk.
WTF-2 says
I figured it out by his rants. Yes he said he left because the police and SAO harassed him and he was complaining about all the cops on Rt 40 one day, and he saw more cops in the 15 miles he travels to work. He works on APG, so he says, and argues with those other guys, so 15 miles from APG on Rt 40 puts you in the area of Northeast to the East or Middle River to the west. Couple that with all the comments he made and people returning the favor about CecilTucky, and being a grass mower, I’m pretty sure thats where he lives. Who cares anyway, he’s not in our county. Are you one of his other names now?
Sam Elliott says
Again WTF, you must be either a Deputy or Police Officer or related to one. Harry appears to have an ax to grind with the HCSO but still his comments about the loss of those Deputies are off colored and disrespectful. I think both of you need to tone down your language and discuss your differences like adults. I must admit it’s rather entertaining minus the language. And that’s my opinion, and like you and the all the others say here, that’s my right. And in the words of Forrestt Gump, That’s all I’ll say about that. LOL Good luck to both of you.
WTF-2 says
Good for you Sam, those Deputies did nothing wrong, and Harry Takes everything he hears or reads online or what his wacko buddy on here say as Gospel as he said in his own words. They gave their lives over two years ago so recently to me means within a year. Again I don’t care let him say what he wants, live where he wants, or go where he wants, but the internet bully better remember if calls 911 in Harford county, more than likely he will get a Deputy he so hates unless he’s in a town area. And again in his words, that’s Karma. He has a real problem and thats the truth. So Mr Sam Elliott, go sell some more Dodge Trucks or something.
harry johnson says
WTF-2 you have no idea where I live nor is it relevant to the discussion. Once again a group wishes to live in a fantasy world. You do that if you like.
As for the rest of us we understand reality. Diversion and deception….We will rename you D&D.
I know enough to know that you don’t walk into a Panera and sit down next to a subject after his ex spouse has reported him for stalking. Not if you are properly trained anyways. Perhaps the officer became complacent and made a grave mistake that day. Nonetheless one doesn’t need to be a rocket scientist to see grave mistakes were made that day. Unfortunately it happens consistently when the HCSO is involved. Way too much.
Those officers gave their lives for me? Gee I didn’t know an event in Panera put so many in danger. Interesting though. Had they handled that call differently they would not have died. They also would not have put bystanders at risk.
Try to stick to the subject and leave the commentary out if you could. You can do it if you try.
harry johnson says
The only thing you wish to do is have a circular argument. Do me a favor and stay out of the discussion if you don’t intend to have a real discussion. SoulCrusher’s story is not isolated by any stretch of the imagination. That Sir is reality. So what you may, but the examples of abuse and incompetence in the spheres of Harford County are well documented and understood by many.
Nobody would have an ax to grind if the incompetence wasn’t such a huge issue. Stop justifying your leaders actions and start holding them accountable. That would go a long way to fixing a very real situation in Harford County.
Accountability started with Dave Ryden. That message will continue whether you like it or not.
WTF-2 says
Do you a favor? Now that’s funny! Your buddy and yourself are perfect examples of whats’s wrong with this country. If you weren’t the way you are, you wouldn’t have been locked up and in jail. I will speak when and where I want. Mic drop
SoulCrusher says
No. You are a perfect example of what is wrong with this country because you actually believe that the treason being enforced among the public is justifiable and legal. This is what is going to change. The people will get their liberty back whether you like it or not. It is not my fault my government is enforcing fraudulent law and creating more every day that is just as fraudulent. It is not my fault that my government has these members of law enforcement convinced that the law they are enforcing is legal. However, once those law enforcement officers know what they are doing is treason and they don’t take steps to correct the treason they become the enemy of WE THE PEOPLE. That’s just were we are. You can say and think what you want, but unconstitutional is illegal because it is against the supreme law of the land and that has not been replaced or repealed, just forgotten. You can’t replace or repeal what is the foundation of the country, law and government. It just can’t be done….
Harry Johnson says
@WTF2 you are what is wrong in this country….Even when presented with the facts that can be disputed you start off on some other rant to justify your existence.
How did this work for your during the Republican Primary? Not so well from what I see. What does that tell us? Voters are smarter than you and can put the pieces of the puzzle together. How is your buddy Ryden doing with that job hunt of his? I hear the auto detailing shops are hiring.
Harry Johnson says
*cant be disputed
WTF-2 says
Hey idiot, just saw your other idiotic response? What does the tragic loss of two dedicated Deputies have to do with the Republican Primary, or Dave Ryden or the voters? Once again your stupidity is shining brightly, I’m surprised you can form sentences or is somebody helping you, and your sad existence. Can’t YOU stay on topic? Go crawl back under whatever rock or cave you came out from. Mic drop and packed away.
WTF-2 says
@Soulcrusher; drink some more, take some more CDS and tell yourself everyone really cares what you say. You say all this crap above, but say on the other post about Boardman that Sheriff Gahler is ok? You’re drunk or high, or just as stupid as the other idiot. Mic drop for you as well.
SoulCrusher says
I typed all that completely sober. Just because someone says something that you don’t like doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Jeff Gahler wasn’t Sheriff is 2009-10, so it’s hard for me to blame him for what happened in my case or the other case I mentioned. Boardman has no experience, is running a pointless non-campaign on topics that simply don’t apply to Gahler and seems like he would make a good interior decorator instead of a Sheriff. Quite frankly, if you can’t see what I’m saying then you must be drunken AND high. I don’t know how you drop a mic when you are typing your words, but it’s alright I get what you’re saying. You really think what you just typed was mic dropping moment? Remember, O’bama was cool and your just a fool….or maybe even a tool.
Harry Johnson says
One other thing before I go. What I have learned is you are a mouth piece and puppet who obviously doesn’t understand opinion, which fortunately everyone is still allowed to have in this country.
You would like it if everything you say is taken at face value and treated like its gospel. Well Sir you have a right to your opinion as do I. Others also have a right to their opinion and their experience. Somewhere between opinions lies the TRUTH and the FACTS.
Documented cases of abuse and incompetent behavior speak for themselves. Never mind the likely numerous undocumented cases. Stop excusing the behavior, which is well known.
Harry Johnson says
Its interesting how a person feels the need to bash someone else….Isnt it? Throughout my post I clearly state:
I prefer
based on my experience.
has its limitations and is not as effective
Very clear to me my Opinion and Experience. Yet this guy seems to think I have “responded with hatefulness”. It takes a special kind of person to get where he has landed. Keeping in mind the post had nothing to do with him. It was an answer to somebody else. Yet he feels the need to interject himself into the conversation. Does he answer the other poster question or clarify my answer for her? Nope…. He simply attacks.
Then he accuses of vile and hateful dialogue. One might almost conclude he has a very specific agenda……(Oh my God that is so hateful!)
WTF-2 says
I don’t give a crap where you live, or any of your other bullshit, but that’s what you’re full of. If you even had a clue, Senior Deputy Dailey never sat down, all the relevant and cautions and other information dispatched to him was incorrect and he had a vague description. Stop listening and learn the what you proclaim the facts and truth. Search the net because you believe everything you here or read here. Well find the 20 minute press conference from Sheriff Gahler, and find out what the real truth is when what is available to the public was released. It’s not even worth discussing with an idiot like you. And yes every LEO puts his/her life on the line every hour of everyday even for pieces of shit like you. Your “karma ” about these comments and disrespect will come back to haunt you, Yes she’s fickle and headed your way. God help you if you ever need one’s help.
WTF-2 says
* incorrect as it was third party information relayed through several people to the dispatcher.
Harry Johnson says
Then don’t engage me….Your not going to break my heart. You have chosen to engage and provide false narratives not I. When presented with facts you still don’t come clean. Your agenda is very apparent.
Your either a Lawyer or a Politician aren’t you…..
Harry Johnson says
@curious…I highly doubt DefenseRests has ever gotten anyone off as most of the attorneys in Harford County are not that sharp and are beholden to the system. In fact its likely they have gotten more clients who were not guilty locked up because of their inept behavior and unwillingness to go against the SAO. If you go against the SAO or the Judges then you will have big issues later. Its a con perpetuated by all of them in the system. In fact I will bet they all sit in chambers and laugh about it over coffee and donuts.
You don’t want to get labeled as “That Lawyer”. One who actually defends his/her client and calls Bullshit when the SAO or Judge does something illegal, immoral, and unethical. After all their is always an appeal, which they can make more money on. You have to keep the con going if you are to make a living.
This is also why attorneys make good politicians. They have a natural ability to con people.
Independent voter for change in the 1st CD says
#flipthefirst #draintheswamp #votecountrybeforeparty
Maxwell's Silver Hammer says
One other thing before I go, because I know you will respond with hatefulness, I find it funny how you keep posting different things/ opinions and trash talking. If you’re in Harford County and need help, I hope you recall this little bit of one of your posts, when that Deputy or equally trained municipal officer arrives:
“As far as the HCSO I would not trust them if my life depended on it. Its also plagued by the good old boy system, which has run rampant for years. I will not say that all Deputies are corrupt, but they have their fair share of corrupt Deputies who are in leadership positions (names like Georgiades and Penman immediately come to mind). I have never been impressed with how they conduct themselves.”
Go ahead bash them all you want, I don’t either of the named Deputies, but I’m sure if you called 911 and needed help, they would show up and help your sorry ass. Good Day.