From the Harford County Sheriff’s Office:
A Message from Sheriff Gahler
Tragically, 5 police officers were killed and 6 injured in Dallas Texas by cowards who targeted these brave officers while they performed their duties serving the citizens of their community. Unfortunately, the number of lives lost and those wounded may climb as the news continues to be updated. The Dallas Police Department and Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) Police are grieving the loss of their officers and supporting those that were injured in the attack that occurred last night.
Sadly, this is the deadliest day for law enforcement since September 11, 2001. Preliminary information indicates this was much more than a random attack on the fabric of our Country. This was a planned and targeted attack on the men and women sworn to protect our way of life. While this vicious and senseless attack remains under investigation, it is clear we witnessed heroes in action as they ran toward the shooting, shielded the innocents, rendered aid while being fired upon and gave their lives in service to their community.
In recognition to those officers who have lost their lives while in the line of duty for the safety and protection of others and those still fighting for their lives in Dallas, I am authorizing the wearing of our badge shrouds through the final law enforcement internment service. Please stay vigilant and alert as you keep these brave men and women and their families in your thoughts and prayers.
From the office of U.S. Sen. Barbara Mikulski:
MIKULSKI STATEMENT ON SHOOTINGS IN DALLAS
WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.) today released the following statement on the shootings in Dallas, Texas last night:
“I join Maryland and the nation in offering my deepest condolences to the families and loved ones of the officers killed and injured in the line of duty and the civilians caught in the crossfire last night in Dallas.
“Each and every day, our law enforcement officers report for duty not knowing what dangers they may face. Men and women in blue put their lives on the line to keep our families and communities safe. I thank officers across the country for their service.
“Like all Americans, I am deeply concerned about racial disparities in our criminal justice system and about gun violence in our communities, our schools and our churches. Police officers have a difficult job and the vast majority serve in an outstanding and honorable manner.
“As we grieve with the families of the victims and struggle to understand this tragedy, we should lift up our voices in a unified call for peace.”?
Curious to see if Mikulski or Obama will label this a hate crime.
I’ve debated with you about gun control and you proclaimed to be a former peace officer.
It’s time to end public availability to purchase a large portion of popular firearms.
You can’t honestly tell me while presumably working in Maryland you wanted to see more people in Maryland armed on their person (legal, carry permits).
No Police professional wants more people armed with guns they are interacting with even law abiding (at the time), legal, and no ill intent.
I am not sure you speak for all Police professionals. Many that I know would love to have a trained, armed ally on their six in a bad situation.
Not really. A lot of Law Enforcement Officers I’ve spoken to are conservative/Republicans, I can tell deep down they don’t want you carrying a gun.
They don’t need Billy Badass “helping” them in their “six” either. That’s how more people mistakenly get shot.
At the end of the day it’s their life and job versus you, and I can tell you for damn sure they don’t want more guns on people, regardless how many “hoops” and background checks they had to jump through to get that carry permit.
I am trying to remember the last time I remember someone mistakenly getting shot from a person with a conceal/carry while protecting themselves or their family (or property). The head of security at our Megachurch (a 25 year Police Officer on the force in Baltimore) and actively solicited conceal/carry members to train in various situations. I feel much safer knowing that if for some reason a nut case come barging into a public forum filled with people….we do not have to wait 5 to 10 minutes after he/she has unload 2 or 3 magazines of ammo into crowd before being taken down. YOU “North Harford Democrat” live in la la land I am afraid.
LaLa Land? Is that what conservatives gun nuts dream about Maryland when it will never be a shall issue state?
It’s great retired Police officers get to carry a gun, they’ve earned it and the average person in Maryland doesn’t need to have a gun on their person with a state issued permit to do so.
We seriously need a country wide gun ban that never sunsets.
“It’s great retired Police officers get to carry a gun, they’ve earned it and the average person in Maryland doesn’t need to have a gun on their person with a state issued permit to do so”
@Gun Nuts
Define average person in Maryland?
Average person? Someone who the Maryland State Police finds no “good and substantial” reason to grant a wear/carry handgun permit too.
There are certain professions, hobbies and business owners who can get a wear/carry permit but it is not an unrestricted permit, they may only carry within their restrictions. I believe carrying outside the restrictions is now in criminal code thanks to 2013 Gun laws in this state.
Most conservative’s want a carry permit, and most conservative’s relate their wanting of a carry permit aligned to a “Shall Issue” state where there are no permit carry restrictions except where prohibited (Federal buildings, court house, etc.).
The average person, tax payer, home owner, and auto mechanic.
The unaverage person? Perhaps a businessman owner who transports gold bars to and from a secure location every week, carry permit is more likely with restrictions.
By conservative gun nuts you mean people who understand the meaning of and protect the second amendment and aren’t willing to give our freedoms away to tyrants like yourself?
Those of you loudly exercising your first amendment right in an effort to violate our second amendment right to self defense don’t seem to understand that the two are connected. Why do you think the second amendment follows the first, and was not added 7th or 8th? Our founding fathers understood that the only way to maintain free speech was and armed population.
Of course you libs are after the 1st amendment now too with your control of the internet and trying to rid yourselves of conservative talk.
I would be willing to bet most of our liberal friends here have never even taken the time to read the bill of rights. I enjoy the especially arrogant liberals here that mock the opposition in regards to the second amendment, completely unaware that they are asking for war.
Oh hell yea B…. my 2nd rights clearly gives me the ability to own a gun and rise up against an oppressive government run police dept that is hell bent on killing innocent black people.
Thanks for your support even though you never bothered to think your position any farther than fox news instructed you.
Oh my B never bothered to really learn what the 1st and 2nd amendment really says.
That’s just sad.
To mr. Iddiot:
1. “It would take cops 40 years to kill as many black men as have died at the hands of others black men in 2012 alone.”
2. “Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks committed half of homicides in the United States for nearly 30 years.”
3. On an average day almost 900 black babies are aborted. 4 times higher then whites.
4. For every black man killed by a cop, 40 are killed by other blacks. Or 2.5% of blacks killed every year are by police. 93% killed by other blacks.
Who is really killing you? Try not having a bullshit movement based on a lie. You want to talk real issues, a lot more people would listen. Try protesting other blacks or the liberal policies killing millions of you. Crying about black lives matter when they clearly don’t to other blacks and liberals makes you seem like the “iddiot”
The second Amendment has never had much of a meaning, each state treats it differently and we have it more right in contemporary times in Maryland, leading the front in gun control.
By all means Gun Nuts, get the supreme Court to define it. I’m sure you goofs won’t like that.
Bunch of little happy dogs Nipping on my $450 pair of wingtip shoes.
Move somewhere else to lawfully carry that big gun. Some man you are. LOL
Smh/ deer God- Please do enlighten me on your interpretation of both amendments. I won’t wait to sober up first because that last post made no sense like the one the other night.
Understanding the 2nd amendment is not difficult in the least. To begin though understand that the first 10 amendments were inserted by the founders with the stated intent of defining and strengthening the GOD GIVEN RIGHTS of individuals. Yup, sucks, right? Do yourself a favor, and at a minimum read the Federalist Papers. In them you get the idea of the how and why of the entire Constitution and then you might gain some ground with the 21st century interpretation of same. As one final thought toward enlightenment, think of all 10 amendments as having the same legal grounding. So what if I decide I don’t like the 2nd amendment, but adore the 4th. Would I be willing to give up my 4th amendment rights in order to take away your 2nd amendment rights. And– how about excluding certain groups of American citizens from inclusion in the rights? NO, silly rabbit, the rights are for individuals. No group gets more or less protection under those rights. They are your and my rights, not some organization or social group or some some well healed lobyist. They are your and my rights.
Let me tell you a funny story there NHD that happened to me last summer. I was taking my aging mother to a hospital in Baltimore and I got a little lost. I was stuck in grid locked traffic when this young man approached my vehicle. He was holding a knife which he pointed at my neck. He demanded money. Not being able to move my car I told the man I was going to remove my wallet to get my money. Fortunately being a retired police officer with a L.O.S.A. Permit I was armed. Instead of producing my wallet. I produced my Glock pistol. For some reason the young man chose not to hang around. The traffic cleared and I approached the first police officer I saw. I advised the officer that I retired from the job and gave him a complete description of the suspect. The officer said that type of thing was a common occurrence. He pointed up the street and said ” keep goin, don’t stop at any red lights until you start seeing white people”. I wasn’t please with the service but thought it prudent to get my mother out of the area,
The purpose of this story is basically two things. I feel that being an armed citizen possibly saved the life of my mother and myself. Second, the suspect possessed a knife not a gun. The outcome could have been just as deadly.
And that’s good for youz but if a “lawful abiding” citizen carries his Glock without a permit in a similar situation, you are going to make an arrest, no? Especially with event data recorders being introduced to observe letter of the law. You got gun permit for life, and that’s great. Not many others will have the legal opportunity afforded to them, and that’s great too because Police officers don’t need more people carrying guns in the public
A “lawful abiding” citizen would not carry a piece without a permit, just to satisfy the leftist government that we have. But at least he’d be “legal.” Ipso facto, if you’re carrying a piece in a place that requires permits and you do not have one, YOU ARE NOT ABIDING BY THE LAW!!! Isn’t that obvious!?
You are lucky a kid with a knife approached your car. Had it been a police officer you would no doubt been gunned down reaching for your wallet
Why didn’t you just roll up your window?
Are you one of those people that feel the need to roll up their windows and lock the car doors whenever they see a black person?
@Bender: You can’t be serious. Have you ever had a knife or gun held to your head or neck ? No, you obviously have not.
@Puss Patrol: Why are you twisting what Bender said?
He never said the perp was black. You’re assuming he was…hmmm.
While Bender doesn’t understand that having an arm already in your window holding a knife to your neck makes it impossible to roll up window without risking having your throat cut, wanting to roll up that window is at the very least reasonable. Don’t you think? It matters not what color the arm holding the knife is. While driving through a known, very high crime area though, keeping windows up would be wise. I sure do when in Baltimore. Why? I’ve had a gun held to my head, a weirdo stick his head into my car and curse me and ask for money while at a red light, and had my life threatened while in a Rite Aid there during work hours on lunch break.
If you want to pretend that becoming a crime statistic isn’t a real possibility in Baltimore, well….you go right ahead. Holy Hell, black people are afraid in Baltimore.
@ Lila
Sorry if I assumed. When the incident was reported to the cop and the cop said keep driving and don’t stop driving until you see white people I came to that conclusion about the suspect although it was never stated.
The real moral of this story is don’t drive in the hood with your window down.
I personally know two HCSO deputies and an HdG police officer. All three of them fully support CCW and are frustrated that Maryland citizens cannot defend themselves outside of the home.
Am I missing something? An Islamic fanatic goes in to a predominately gay club and commits horrific carnage against people he perceived as infidels and our president dances around calling the incident Islamic terrorism but instead labels the incident a hate crime. A few years ago on Memorial Day a Canadian tourist gets beaten down and robbed by a mob of black men at the inner harbor. Suspects were later arrested and their cell phones were confiscated. The video not only showed the assault and robbery but in the audio comments regarding the victims race were made which were encouraging the assault for those reasons. This was clearly a crime of hate. Police Commissioner Bealefeld and States Attorney Bernstein (both white officials in a city which is 70 percent black) conducted a press conference. They would not label the incident a hate crime. WHY? Hate is hate and haters should be held responsible and accountable. Now, you have a black man with ties to organizations such as the Black Panthers, etc., who openly admits that he wants to kill white people, that commits a horrible massacre of several police officers, and no one wants to refer to this as a hate crime. I would like someone to tell me why this is happening and what they are attempting to accomplish besides increasing racial divide.
You’re right, the Texas incident was a hate crime. It was a horrific act that was orchestrated at an event that was expected to have a substantial police presence. It was thought out. Both he and his sister announced that they hated cops and wouldn’t mind seeing some get killed. We’re talking about random cops, not certain cops they had experiences with, but random cops. That’s just completely unreasonable. If that guy didn’t get killed, he deserved the death penalty. In Texas he would’ve gotten it. You’re also right, Miami was a hate crime and an act of terrorism. I guess we’ll all have to skip the next Gay Pride Parade. The incident in Baltimore was definitely a hate crime influenced by “race”. That’s supposed to be serious. However, we see how that worked out. Gotta keep them Canadians and other white people outta the Inner Harbor because there is so many other places in Baltimore they belong. Another completely unreasonable occurrence. Civilization seems to digressing……
Lyin’ Loretta Lynch already said she would not prosecute as a hate crime because the guy was dead, of course, as she praised Black Lives Matters destructors.
I’m open for enlightenment, if “roll call” for Open Your Eyes consisted of the “sarge” saying how he wished law abiding citizens could carry guns in Maryland easier to help with crime, I’ll bow down.
Open Your Eyes, I respect you and your former occupation more than youll ever know it you got your gun permit and shit on everyone else. The way of the Republicants.
Given the requirements that one must meet to obtain a CCW why would any law enforcement officer not support citizens having a CCW?
Carrying in public has nothing to do with helping the police with crime. It is about being able to defend yourself. There is a lot of liability involved with inserting yourself into a situation and using deadly force. Any smart armed citizen would not involve themselves unless absolutely necessary.
And it doesn’t matter whether the police want you carrying or not. Being able to defend yourself is a natural right infringed on by the state in direct conflict with the second amendment.
The very same second amendment limiting the government and people like you from infringing on our right to defend ourselves. If there was ever a perfect example of why a semi auto rifle is needed for self defense, watch the police try to take down the shooter yesterday with handguns.
I hope you have the same amount of courage when you come to my home and try to confiscate my firearms as you do spouting off here. But then you will give that responsibility to someone else just like the responsibility to defend yourself.
I’m not coming to your home to confiscate your firearms and I don’t work in a job that tells other people do.
You’ll simply be a bother big mouth Republican who will line up at the Police station to turn in their banned guns when the legislation is passed.
You all talk a big game but in the end going to jail for a few guns isn’t what you’d do.
NHD: All I am reading in your posts is a lot of supposition and clairvoyance on your part. As a retired law enforcement officer with 30+ years of service, I have seen my share of crimes that would have been lessened, without injury, if the citizen would have been armed with a firearm in order to protect him/herself. Sadly, in the Peoples Republic of Maryland, as well as The District of Corruption, they have an agenda to disarm the population in order to make the USA a Socialist/Marxist country. Annapolis, through the Maryland State Police (the issuing authority) refuses to issue a Concealed Carry Permit to law-abiding citizens, as the 2nd Amendment guarantees us to be able to be armed, not only to protect ourselves and our families, but also to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. All that needs to be done to rectify that problem is to change the words “may issue” to “shall issue” and delete the section of their procedure that states a law-abiding citizen must prove that they have a reasonable, legitimate and prudent reason to need a CCW Permit. If you are a politician, or a business person that carries a large amount of cash, you will easily get a CCW Permit. Everybody else is put through the wringer, then they are denied. Obviously, the State of Maryland does not abide by the 2nd Amendment. The Judicial System is far too liberal in punishing criminals that use a firearm in the commission of a crime. It is NOT the law-abiding citizen that commits those crimes. If you think that taking away law-abiding citizens firearms is the solution, as do the liberal idiots in Annapolis and Washington do, you are sadly mistaken. The criminal element will always have firearms……think gun smugglers and buying stolen guns on the streets from other criminals. Therein lies the problem and I would strongly advise you to take the time and do the research. You will find that the core Democrat party politicians, RINOs included, (a/k/a “the establishment”) are as corrupt as the day is long. By the way, in Maryland, it was NOT the Republican that prevented law-abiding citizens from obtaining a CCW permit, it was the foolish Democrats in Annapolis. Your beloved Owe’Malley also started the HQL,which is a rip-off of law-abiding citizens monies, to the tune of about $155 dollars. The HQL is required before a lkaw-abiding citizen is “permitted” to buy a “controlled” firearm. I wish I could afford to get out of this corrupt state and never come back!
Would you have arrested a citizen carrying a firearm without a carry permit? No other crime or demeanor and suspicion of crime than a wear/carry violation.
If Maryland doesn’t knife by the second amendment than its a law not to be followed Republicants always say.
Apparently, NHD knows **EVERY** LEO, and knows how they feel ‘deep down’ and what they think.
NHD, I understand that YOU do not believe that people should have permits to carry. I understand that YOU do not think that LEOs would want that, either.
Neither of those are facts. You do not speak for the entire LE community.
Doesn’t matter what I think, our state has great laws in place and written by, elected officials who represent the majority population.
Carry a handgun in violation of COMAR and it doesn’t matter what feelings anyone has, you’ll be wearing metal bracelets all the way to the detention center.
I am commenting on you getting on your soapbox and declaring: “No Police professional wants more people armed with guns they are interacting with even law abiding (at the time), legal, and no ill intent.”
You cannot know what every police professional wants. You are assuming that they want what you want.
You are correct: if caught with a weapon that violates the law, a citizen can be arrested, regardless of their intent. That rule seems to exist with everything except emails.
And, before you start with the ‘Republicant’ nonsense: I am not a member of the GOP. See there? You don’t speak for all Democrats, either!
Police want more people carrying guns? Where can I see some local press releases of that?
“NO police professionals want people carrying guns”? Did I miss that press release?
I am sure that there are LEOs that agree with you. My point, that you seem to be missing, is that you cannot possibly speak for the ENTIRE LE community. There are LEOs out there that do support concealed carry.
It is presumptuous to assume that everyone agrees with your opinion.
North Harford Democrat sure pontificates and antagonizes like someone else we all know and love.
I’m definitely not “Soul Crusher.”
The day a law enforcement officer tells me he or she wants armed citizens to back him up, I’ll be sure to tell you.
Our country has a problem and to cast about doing nothing while our peace officers are senselessly getting killed by guns makes me sad.
Gun ownership in America is going to change, and it’s got to happen soon.
Every gun starts out as a legal transfer and somehow all these guns fall into the wrong hands time and time again. You tell me what to do?
No he is definitely NOT the Crusher of Souls. I personally believe that gun legislation is a total waste of time. If someone wants a gun, they’ll get a gun. No background check or any other method devised to prevent someone with ill intent to acquire a gun will ever help. Now I do agree with North Harford Democrat that change is coming, but its not the change he’s talking about. You all have to understand that “Domestic Terrorism” has already been upon us since the 1980’s. You know, when the two greatest terrorists of our time took office in the White House. These two men started a war against the American people and institutionalized domestic terrorism as a standard in our nations Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice System. That war is a war that was proclaimed to be against certain substances which are inanimate objects. However, that war was really a war against the people those in political office and public servants were supposed to be serving. This war I speak of is “The War on Drugs” and was the start of the destruction of democracy and the constitution. Change is coming. A change I don’t really wish for. When those that are supposed to serve become those that act as tyrannical as the British were to our founding fathers, there is only one prescription. Its coming and those who have acted in bad faith to the people will suffer the consequences. I do NOT wish for this change. I do NOT own a gun. I will NOT take part in the violence this change will bring. I am going to sit back and watch the world burn. We brought it all upon ourselves…….
Why does everyone focus on the microscopic percentage of young black men killed by cops and ignore the 99.87% of them killed by other young black men?
Because the 99.87% does not sell TV time or newspapers. The other .13% sells and that is what this country is about…..selling the product.
It also serves a political agenda, and in some instances is orchestrated to advance a political agenda.
While everyone focuses on the Second Amendment to the Constitution and argues about the various interpretations, the one dictum that seems to be the Mosaic law, part of the Ten Commandments, “Thou shalt not kill.,” It seems that every possible rationalization for killing can be sought in the Second Amendment when the meaning of “thou shalt not kill” is clear and unambiguous,
The meaning is that you should not murder. Defending yourself is biblical.
The second amendment is about defense, not killing. And it is to prevent the very tyranny your side is trying right now.
Very dramatic post though.
Only liberals “interpret” the second amendmemt, so they can twist it like you did the sixth commandment for your own purposes.
If only the police would commit thou shall not kill and this mess would never have happened.
You mean telling a cop you have a gun and then reaching in its direction shouldn’t get you shot?
Or resisting arrest while armed, reaching for that gun and ignoring lawful order may get you shot?
Or reaching for a cops gun after robbing a store may get you shot?
Enough with the false outrage. There are thousands of black
people killed every year by other black people. If you want to talk about better schools, better education, and keeping families together, I’m in. Don’t try to feed me some bullshit movement started from a lie.
I’d like to see you try and make the same split second decisions cops have to every day and see how you make out.
I say bless them all. The police are not the problem, the non responsible portion of our population is.
Was this discussed at your Klan meeting the other night?
Exactly which part of the items above do you think came up at my “Klan meeting”
How can anyone take your side seriously or provide help when labeled racist by those too silly to have an open discussion.
B it has been noted how you change the script. Why did you word it
You mean telling a cop you have a gun and then reaching in its direction shouldn’t get you shot?
Instead of
You mean telling a cop you have a legal gun and then reaching for your requested ID shouldn’t get you murdered?
Very interesting.
Tom, have you ever been pulled over by a cop while carry a weapon? You do everything in your power to make that cop comfortable. Clearly he wasn’t.
If my weapon is anywhere near my wallet, I tell him so, and I do what he needs to feel safe.
I think it would be wise to get the whole story instead of reacting to a video made after the fact with a biased witness.
Try walking up next to a car and having to make split second decisions on your own personal safety like the cops have to do.
It is sad to see the NRA has taken the stance of we need access to weapons to fight off a potentially oppressive government and clearly are backing the snipers and not the Police.
I do not believe the wholesale murder of government police officers was the intent of the second amendment but that’s what your NRA dues support.
Sad.
The founding fathers limited the powers of government in this regard to acknowledge the natural right to self defense, and to ensure the security of a free state. The nra is only protecting the second amendment as it is tasked to do by its 5 million members.
The Nra has hundreds of thousands of cops as members and is very vocal in its support of law enforcement.
You are an idiot.
You claim that the NRA backs the police and taking legally owned guns away from the public so they have no ability to rise up against a tyrannical government?
You have not been paying attention.
Were you drinking before that response?
Citation needed. How is the NRA “clearly backing snipers and not police”?
Another day, another liberal lie.
Lib Lies: I agree with you 100%. You can always tell a Democrat/Liberal/Socialist/Progressive/Marxist/Communist……they can never give a reasonable answer to a reasonable question or statement.
The simple truth is that law enforcement officers have ULTIMATE AUTHORITY. They MUST be respected and their COMMANDS followed. If you believe your rights have been violated, you can file a complaint later.
The problem is that our permissive society has lost all sense of respect for AUTHORITY.
When a cop demands ID then kills you for trying to comply, where do you file the complaint later? Is there a box at the pearly gates?
There are several possible answers to ?’s post.
1. We don’t know all the facts, so the policeman’s action may have been justified.
2. I am not aware of any perfect person, so it’s possible this was an unlawful action by the policeman. If so, he will be punished accordingly.
No uneducated guess ….
The question is…… where does on submit a letter of complain in the afterlife.
Try to keep up.
In Hell, where they are headed.
To ?
If the law enforcement officer(s) are found to be guilty of unauthorized acts, the deceased’s heirs will file a civil suit against the local government for $$ millions.
Sometimes they will file and collect $$ millions before anyone is found guilty of unlawful force…6 million to Freddie Gray’s family.
McDonald v. United States, 335 U.S. 451 (1948); Page 335 U. S. 456 – “Power is a heady thing, and history shows that the police acting on their own cannot be trusted” – If the Supreme Court says this, then why are you saying they have “Ultimate Authority”? Most police do try and serve and protect. However, there are a certain few that give them ALL a bad name. Police need to call out their blue brothers when they act inappropriately. These certain few are acting as “Domestic Terrorists” and should be put down by their own brethren……
Australia had a big rash of gun murders some 20 years ago and they cut their gun violence rate significantly through a variety of measures. When I suggested to Sheriff Gahler that he study the Australian example, since he didn’t like my suggestion that there be a gun buy back program in the county, his response was no response. Apparently he doesn’t think there is a problem. How many more of his fellow officers have to be killed?
Now in Great Britain police officers do not regularly carry guns and gun violence there is far, far less than in the U.S. What is it that they do there, Sheriff, that makes it safer for everyone?
I think he told you to pay for it?
How can you say the Sheriff’s response was no response” when on these very pages he responded directly to your suggestion: http://www.daggerpress.com/2016/03/11/sheriff-gahler-i-have-never-seen-one-piece-of-compelling-information-that-would-cause-me-to-believe-gun-buyback-programs-do-anything-to-promote-public-safety/
I will tell you how you can do that and that is because like so many other liberal democrats, making up lies to suit your narrative are just fine with you. You sir lack any integrity whatsoever and would be an embarrassment to any group other than the democratic party.
I sent material to the sheriff about what was done in
Australia to curb gun violence, He didn’t answer. That is his tactic, to ignore any honest
discussion of the subject and take the NRA line that the more guns there are, the better.
Get your heads out of the sand. People are dying! You tell people whose children, fathers,
loved ones who are killed that this is the fault of liberal democrats. That is a real brainy
answer. The fact is that gun violence can be controlled better than it is now and now by
people coming to your houses which is a scare tactic if I’ve ever seen one.
This country would function so much better if the liberal democrats would just pick up and move to the countries they admire so much and that they feel are doing so well. That would leave the rest of us to actually enjoy the freedoms and protections that our country was founded on.
He also “neglected” to tell us that Australia had a 300% INCREASE in the homicide rate after the Australian citizens firearms were confiscated.
Probably because it didn’t happen
He didn’t answer you because he understands that you are cherry picking facts to benefit your narrative. Your talking point is “curbing gun violence” in 92% white Australia. None of the multicultural issue faced in so many other countries.
You don’t mention that violent crime has gotten worse in Australia after the ban. You don’t mention that violent crime rates in countries with bans are very high. Switzerland, England, Brazil. Brazil’s murder rate has tripled since it stopped selling firearms to citizens!
The anti police violence in this country is absolutely the fault of liberal democrats like yourself. Your president has jumped in several racial issues and been wrong, while stirring up racial divide. Your president attacked police departments for being racist, sent his “justice department” after local police forces for appearances, and attacked police for being to0 much like the military. The tone set by the president and other liberal politicians like De Blasio has been very anti cop. Obama is on TV right now saying we can’t assume these murders where race related even though he stated he wanted to kill white cops. This killer admitted he was angry about black lives matter, a group started from a lie and pandered to by the left.
But your side won’t own any of that. A liberal can’t be held responsible for anything. You will continue to support your criminal of a presidential candidate, you will try to ban firearms, and then realize too late that the second amendment was created to protect our rights from people like you. Scared liberals willing to sell their liberty to make them feel safer are a much larger threat to the rest of us then mass shooters.
I feel sorry for you, B. President Obama is my president and he is yours too. He was elected by the American people two times. Sheriff Gahler is also my sheriff as he is yours too. He was elected to protect the lives and property of all the citizens in the county. He should be responsive to public safety questions directed to him. He responded to my suggestion about a gun buy back with a sarcastic suggestion that I personally pay $500 for each gun bought back, Does that sound like someone who wants to have a serious discussion about this issue?
Apparently some of you don’t think there is a problem, that as long as you can shoot someone, there is no problem. But it is a problem. You are always going to find people with
different views, backgrounds, skin color. The beauty of a democracy is that if we can make it
work, everyone benefits. Violence is not the answer. That is why I think the Mosaic law against killing, which has a history of several thousands of years, is more important than the selling of assault rifles, Whether I am a liberal, conservative (I want to preserve lives!), Libertarian, etc. makes no difference, I want a country and community where we and our children can live safely.
Don’t feel sorry for me Chris. Obama has chosen not to be my president and has done nothing but attack those with views similar to mine. But I’m fine with that since he has been the worst president in my lifetime. Great words once spoken about judging a man by the content of his character, and his is seriously lacking.
Hillary Clinton has even gone as far as declaring me and millions like me her enemy. She is a criminal, has sold us out for money, has enabled a rapist, lied over the coffins of dead Americans to their parents and has accomplished nothing in her career. She will never be my president whether people like you are stupid enough to vote for her or not. How can you pretend to want a safe country when no democrat has enough of a spine to hold accountable those doing wrong.
Your pie in the sky dream of a country “where our children can live safely” is a great goal, but it is simply not reality. There is evil in the world. There are bad people with no morals who arent going to follow the rules. I think you can continue to live in make believe while those who have provided for your security before continue to do so. Maybe some day you will be able to see through your arrogance to appreciate it.
Just how much of your freedom are you willing to give away so you don’t feel scared?
Most have had their freedom taken from them, not given away. I don’t recall signing or endorsing the continuance of the Patriot Act, yet my congressman did. By continuing the use of the unpatriotic act, certain rights and freedoms we all considered to be etched in stone have been eroded to near invisibility. Your right, there is evil in this world, but when do we consider that evil a necessity? Shall we give all of our expectancy of privacy away, just to feel safe? Shall we make it illegal to own an object that can be used to do harm, just to feel safe? Shall we continue to make more unreasonable “rules”, just to feel safe? Freedom is a hard thing to keep, especially when you never had it to begin with……
Just as I thought…..you only said that Sheriff Gahler “made a sarcastic suggestion that I pay $500……”, but as the staunch Democrat that you are, you “conveniently” left out the whole of what Sheriff Gahler did state in his reply to you. Well, here it is to refresh your memory, and so others that are becoming perturbed with you posts:
“Mr. Boardman is quick to suggest how I might want to spend other people’s money since funds for a buyback must come from somewhere. In an effort to be open-minded, if Mr. Boardman is truly committed to his desire to see a gun buyback program and is willing to personally fund the effort, I will promote the event and help him give his money away. I was thinking something like $500 per firearm out of his pocket? I will, of course, not spend any taxpayer money on such an endeavor, not now or in the future.
Should any member of the public ever wish to get rid of a firearm and make the decision that they would prefer it to be destroyed rather than transferred, the Sheriff’s Office can assist with this service and will do so at no cost.”
‘Nuff said……
If that black guy had of stopped put his hands up and lied face down on the ground they wouldn’t have needed to beat him.
Yeah, they really laid the smack down on that guy. I guess they were upset he ran on foot and they had to chase him down in their SUV. Must’ve tired them out. All that driving can be draining. This was a Narcotics Task Force. A shining example of what the “good guys” have become.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDTbSmF76N8
What’s a shame in situations like this is that the other Police officers just stood there and didn’t correct their “partner” who just kept beating on this guy for what appeared no use of force was deemed appropriate.
That shut em up.
From what I can see of the high profile deaths that “Black Lives Matter” is so upset about, they’d all still be alive today if they’d simply complied with the orders they were given. They might not like where they ended up, but at least they’d be alive. The BLM movement seems to be fighting for the right to resist and evade without any consequence. Obama and his underlings have continued to fan the flames by giving credence to the movement instead of pointing out the facts that are readily available that discount their claims. In his own way, Obama is the most racist president we’ve had in a very long time. He is always quick to jump in to any racial controversy without any details, in my opinion tainting the jury pool whether on purpose or not, and seemingly never tiring of ultimately being proven wrong. The very politicians that count on the gullibility and ignorance of the electorate that keeps returning them to office should bear some responsibility when they don’t do enough to dissuade that same group from committing these types of acts out of misplaced anger and ignorance of the facts.
So, you say that not following orders is a reason to murder. I call BS on you. If by not following an order causes a threat to others lives, then yes shoot’em. I mean, if you say drop the gun and they don’t do it, then shoot them. However, saying “Stop Police” and then shooting someone for not obeying that command and fleeing, well, that’s murder because no threat of eminent danger exists. You think that you have the right to murder someone for resisting arrest? Quite frankly, your talking about the murder of civilians by police, that are treating those same civilians as enemy combatants. As I’ve said before, the Law has become Lawless. You have to realize you are policing American Civilians. You are NOT military in an act of war. I don’t care if a court finds you innocent, you’re still committing murder.
Hmm did not say that not following orders lead to their deaths. What led to their deaths was the specific actions each of these individuals were performing at the time they failed to comply with the police order. This is the problem of the whole movement. No acknowledgement of accountability or repslonsibility of these individuals. The emotional reactions to falsehoods and assumptions which later prove false takes away any credibility this group has. Time will show this “movement” to be political, to be an attempt to mobilize the vote.
After recent events, it is time to talk about black lives matter being a racist hate group and they need to be held accountable for their rhetoric. The new black panthers should be added to the terrorist watch list. Time to stop pandering to fools.
There are so many good leaders fighting the good fight. Dealing with broken families. Broken homes, high unemployment, bad schools. No oppurtunity, no hope. Support them. So many more would listen.
Failing to comply with orders is NOT FOLLOWING the orders. I don’t know what you’re interpretation of the English language is, but its not correct….. He said, “they’d all still be alive today if they’d simply complied with the orders they were given”. DEFINITION of COMPLY – 1.”act in accordance with a wish or command”. 2.”meet specified standards”. Its all very clear to me. I hope a dictionary will aid you in your quest to improve your vocabulary. I know you ALL wish to justify the murders that we are seeing committed by police ALL across this country, but you have to be realistic. If it were not for the police acting as “Domestic Terrorists” then you probably wouldn’t have seen those officers killed in Dallas. The police and our government are going to bring this country to the brink of a civil war or revolution. This is the truth and you know its coming……
Should we ban tractor trailers now?
2014, 3600 plus deaths tractor trailer related, 248 by any type of rifle. Not even 1 percent of deaths by trucks.
I know it’s Canada but I agree as a common observer that the use of force was appropriate with elimination of the threat after repeated pleas but the common theme is that when he fired again multiple times later, it’s highly evident that he was in the wrong when his “brothers” and “sisters” don’t join in, but literally, just stand there and stare at this dude getting riddled with more bullets.
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=942_1445476356