From Jeffrey R. Gahler:
November 1, 2014
Dear Harford County Residents:
It was brought to my attention today that President Impallaria of the Deputy Sheriffs Union recently mailed an advertisement that demeaned the correctional deputies of the Harford County Sheriff’s Office. At issue with President Impallaria is the fact that the deputies assigned to the Harford County Detention Center have endorsed my candidacy in a truly overwhelming manner with 77% of their membership supporting my candidacy for Sheriff of Harford County. This endorsement has overshadowed the narrow margin that gained the incumbent an endorsement from the second union representing Sheriff’s Office employees and is presided over by President Impallaria. Through that process, described as “overwhelmingly,” the incumbent took just 53% of the membership vote and an astounding 65 members, almost 23% of those eligible to participate, sat the vote out, many in fear that the vote was not confidential as had been advertised.
Unfortunately for President Impallaria, the classification of “correctional officers” (as he would prefer) is an area where Sheriff Bane and I agree, these men and women working to improve public safety in our county are in fact “deputies.” Sheriff Bane noted during his thoughtful comments in a letter to the citizens of Harford County on May 19, 2013, concerning the line of duty death of Deputy First Class Teresa Testerman, “I wanted to share my deep gratitude to the 421 sworn law enforcement and correctional deputies of the Harford County Sheriff’s Office.” Sheriff Bane and I make no distinction that would diminish the important role all of our deputies perform on behalf of the citizens of Harford County. It is shameful that for political purposes, President Impallaria and a few members of his group do not feel the same or have bent to pressures to publicly state otherwise.
The badge worn by our “correctional officers” as authorized and issued by Sheriff Bane reads proudly “Deputy Sheriff”, a title by which Sheriff Bane ensured Deputy Testerman, a correctional deputy, would forever be remembered. Many readers know that I have found much fault with the actions and remarks of Sheriff Bane during this campaign, but again, this is an area where I am proud to share his respect for the hard working men and women of the Harford County Sheriff’s Office, deputies et al. They’ve earned it.
Sincerely,
Jeffrey R. Gahler
2014 Republican Candidate for Harford County Sheriff
Bobby b says
Why does he care? There are a lot of things he should be vocal about and this isn’t one of them.
Concerned says
If you are referring to Impallaria you are right on point
Leon Burger says
Unfortunate that there is such division within the Sheriff’s Office. I didn’t see anything about us and them in the mission statement. All I saw was we. One team, one mission might just be the missing piece from this puzzle. The Deputy Sheriff’s union has proven that its not about all of us – just them.
Christina Threewood says
Is it true that union members elected Tim Impallaria as Union President knowing that he misused sick leave? Isn’t it fraud to misuse taxpayer funded sick leave? Was he charged with fraud for allegedly forging another supervisors name on a sick leave slip? Was he punished at all?
bitch much? says
Geez Jeff….. stop running to mom and telling on Lionel every time something happens. Man up and stop being a little bitch. What kind of leadership combines arrogance and whining to mom all day? Jeff for sheriff does. Talk about something positive your going to do in the future besides stare into the mirror telling yourself, I’m good enough, I’m strong enough, and gosh darn it I’m going to whine and cry about everything. LJB sucks at his job, its proven fact by the amount of discord in the agency but you are a mockery of leadership swallowed by political ambition. The both of you candidates make it nearly impossible to want either of you. Unfortunately its down to one or the other at a time when I think the citizens would prefer neither. You must have had a big brother that kicked your ass all day everyday and crying is the only thing you know how to do. Sad man…. you had a lot of potential and support 2 years ago that has been dissolved by your incessant arrogance and inability to just be positive.
Junk Mail says
This explains a lot. I got something in the mail from this Union yesterday and I put it in the trash today.
Concerned says
Who’s doing the whining? The president who demeaned his fellow brothers and sisters in the union or Jeff who applauds their service?
Take a Pill says
@Bitch much,
What kind of rant was that? Gahler take no shots at Bane in this release. He actually gives him a compliment but one he does not deserve. You can bet it was Bane that pulled Impallaria’s string and made him dance. Anyway,
Marc A Eaton says
Here you go, same platform since 2010. Try to read it and then make another post.
http://jeffgahler.com/docs/JG_Campaign_flyer.pdf
Fed up in Harford says
From all the blustering Bane has done and the amount of chatter and signs I’d assume Gshler’s support has increased tremendously, not diminished.
Joppa Farm JJ says
How can anyone trust the endorsement of the HCDSU when President Tim Impallaria was caught forging another supervisors signature on his leave slip. He was abusing his sick leave, isn’t that an integrity issue?
Local resident says
Fred Visnaw now Impallaria. What kind of integrity does this Sheriffs Office have? What kind of deputies do we have? Deputies that elect union leaders that have no integrity. Shameful..
Disgraceful says
Agreed, If nothing else, this election has shown what little integrity that the current deputies have. Next time you see one napping on duty, hiding out at a rec field, driving with a cell phone, etc.. take a picture. Lets not let these malcontent bullies rule the day. Hopefully we get a Sheriff that cleans up the office.
Concerned says
Why would one union president demean his brother union members like that. It’s disgraceful. Just another example of poor leadership in the Sheriff’s Office. Not only should Bane be voted out, so should this president.
Local resident says
This Impallaria sounds like a real dick just like his brother.
Curious says
I got that thing in the mail. It said the union overwhelmingly voted to support Bane. Gahler says Bane got 53% of the vote? Who is telling the truth?
Embarrassed DSU Member says
The union leaders tried to pass off a lie and it has bit them badly. Gahler is telling the truth.
Marc A Eaton says
53% is all Bane got for an endorsement. An email was sent out a few weeks prior to voting from the Union President to calm the rumblings of the people who do not trust the voting system. Anyone who thinks in this day and age that no one can find out how voted on line needs to pay more attention to IT tech services. Ask the IRS if emails can be traced once erased. Those who sat out the vote were smart to do so. This Union has had three Presidents with integrity issues. Thomas was not one of them. For those of you who want a change I think it is time to contact FOP Local 31 and get away from this AFL-CIO backed Union.
The Sheriff’s Office had integrity until 2006 when the Bane administration began. From Sheriff Kunkle to Sheriff Golding. There is a select few who follow Bane blindly. You have many more with integrity and good character who are asking the voters to get rid of this lot and give them a chance to once again do their jobs without worrying about pissing the wrong person of and loosing their job.
Republican Voter says
This is the same Union that decided not to endorse Joe Cassilly for State’s Attorney. Trostle has no chance of beating Joe. Joe is an icon and beloved for his service to the people of Harford County. Yet, the Deputy Union endorses Trostle and Bane too? Both Democrats? What is wrong with this picture? Harford County is a Republican County and the voters will make the right choice this coming Tuesday. I can’t imagine what the deputies working at the Detention Center must be thinking knowing their current boss doesn’t want them to be known as his deputies? Now the Union president also doesn’t want them to be known as deputies too? Really? All because of Politics? What a shame. Should they remove their badges that say they are Deputy Sheriff’s? How about we do this…the next time you see one of the deputies in uniform, just thank them for what they do. No, it doesn’t matter where they work in the Sheriff’s Office just let them know you care. This other stuff will all be settled in a few days.
Republican officer says
You should really go back and read the article or have someone read it to you.
Local Voter says
Republican Officer – you and your felloe deputies should be ashamed of yourselves for voting in these union leaders with clear integrity issues.
Republican officer says
Yokel voter learn to read I’m not a deputy sheriff. Is Harford county just chocked full of stupid people who claim to vote or is it my imagination?
Fed up in Harford says
It’s common knowledge why the Deputy’s Union chose Trostle, Casilly went ahead with prosecuting Chris Behles. Its nothing but retaliation.
Between Bane and the Impallarias this may as well be Hazzard County.
SoulCrusher says
Look, Cassilly was forced into prosecuting Behles. Too many witnesses saw what he did. Joseph Cassilly’s standard operating procedure regarding police officers is to look the other way. Cassilly practices Administrative Malfeasance and Selective Prosecution. He doesn’t prosecute all the crimes police commit, even when the facts smack him in the face. If Cassilly had integrity and honor, Sean Marston would be behind bars right now. That’s OK though, the FEDS will get Sean. I’m just hoping they get enough information to remove the scum in your Circuit Courts. Carr, Eaves and Marshal (retired), all need the FEDS to inspect their cases. The FEDS will not like what they see. Carr’s term as Administrative Judge is coming to an end soon. Trust me………
SoulCrusher says
Check out Carr’s Robing Room Reviews……http://www.therobingroom.com/maryland/Judge.aspx?id=5645
Its not just what I think, see what other attorneys are saying about him.
marty o'shea says
Once and for the very last time,Trooper Gahler has turned to Negative campaign tactics. Mailers,robo-calls… shamefully how a Police Captain needs to go after another fellow cop with inaccurate negative adds. Speak of deaths at the Jail ask Jeff who is his pick for Warden, and how many deaths where during that very same candidates watch? Capaso was the warden assigned during those deaths? The union vote was brought up only after Gahler lost the deputies endorsement? The deputies at the jail voted to back Jeff,and the street cops did not period. The guys at the jail have a different assignment and a rather tough job. In some cases tougher,then are confined much like the prisoners and the jobs albeit differ they are equally important. Bane lost that vote for whatever reasons and Jeff is the one who disrespected them by limiting acknowledgement that they were the jail deputies hiding the fine print! Then he has Capaso make robo-calls changing the numbers by totaling the outcome of the two votes? Was he not proud the deputies at the jail supported him, did he need to limit that exposure by combining numbers,and in smaller print identify them as deputies of the corrections union? A 28 year veteran of any police department who is so desperate to win by any means has lost his way,and should retire to a small town in the south and apply for a police job,start over4 re-thinking how badly he needs to win and run on or apply on his record not by trickery or poor politics, another sad day in politics,as a Republican i how people remain smart and see the clouds created by the Jeff camp and Vote Bane in record numbers. This campaign is the reason Obama is president and the Senate is Democrats, Because we have People like Jeff with no message running for us as Republicans………..Shameful
Marc A Eaton says
I think that every new Road Deputy should have to work six months at the Detention Center prior to going on the road. I did four years there and I have the utmost respect for Correctional Officers. It is like being on home release, you get to leave for sixteen hours and then have to go back to that nut house. The deal with your arrest for eight hours a day three hundred sixty five days a year. You make the arrest go to the IPC do the paper work and leave. By the way, they make less then road Deputies, and Bane shows them no respect as well.
BillH says
“The deal with your arrest for eight hours a day three hundred sixty five days a year”
Wow no weekends off, no vacation/sick. Takes a special person to work every day of the year including holidays for that money.
We did not know. I am impressed.
Marc A Eaton says
Sorry Bill I miss spelled they. Do I really have to spell it out that not all Deputies work 365 or could you just understand the post. This is the typical BS from you Baners. Spelling errors.
concernedwife says
I applaud Gahler for his letter. I believe Impallaria had full intent to say the DC officers are “less” than the patrol officers both of which are deputies. However, let’s again point out issues that are somewhat clouded. The CO union acted like complete dicks. They showed their immaturity and lack of political finesse in this entire situation. I’m not at all shocked if the LE union reacted a bit hostile. Let’s also say- a vote is a vote is a vote. If you didn’t vote just shut your pie hole. You can’t go after a vote and say “but it was close so really you shouldn’t pay attention to it”. Good God I cannot wait for this election to be done so the hard workers of the HCSO can get back to work instead of their monotonous bitch sessions
Marc A Eaton says
How did they act like dicks?
concerned wife says
Well, you asked so I feel obliged to answer. So boys pull up your pants because this might sting a bit.
You have a union president who only ran to prevent Kahler from keeping the position (he has openly stated he gates politics and has no desire for the position). You have a VP who can’t even keep his personal affairs in order (pun was intended). You have a board who play like puppet masters over the president and are more concerned with what name they are referred to in a Dagger article than actually addressing things that matter like retirement and benefits. The previous union leaders at least secured an early retirement but Hampton can’t make up his mind from one month to the next- he retired from board then was allowed back then he quits, then comes back, then wants to retire- for the love of God make a decision. At least Kahler was forthright, honest and had a desire to lead and do what was best for the whole. That’s just not the case with the current union board. The current board allows a board member to sit at the table at meetings and degrade command staff and the sheriff while playing candy crush on his phone. In short this board is dirty, untrustworthy and lacks the best interest of the CO’s.Historically the LE and CO unions have worked together but that wasn’t the way the current regimen decided to go. Instead they decide to fight a battle (this election) rather than the war (long term issues). They alienated the LE union and let what power they had go to their head and puffed out their chests like Tarzan to prove a point (that yet really has to be determined) like I said DICKS
Fred Visnaws Agency Pillow says
Spoken like someone very close to Mr. Kahler. The Association body was asking for anyone to run against Kahler because he had built such a reputation for being a self serving backstabber. Maybe that is why he lost in embarrassing fashion 80% to 20% when he was the VP, the logical successor for the President spot. The previous board did not work with the LE union because Hampton’s inferiority complex stood in the way of allowing him to do so. The current board was working with them finally until the Impallaria went and put out this letter. The current association board has been open and honest with the membership about everything that is going on. They have been dealing with a failing administration, a pending election, and the constant undermining by those that are still sore about the board election results. Yet they still manage to keep the officer’s best interest at heart and that solidarity is demonstrated by the vote they took for the Sheriff’s endorsement. That was the greatest level of participation the union has had in recent years and the body overwhelmingly in our case, voted to endorse Gahler.
concerned wife says
Fred, what things has your board worked on and even placed a dent in beside this vote. Kahler was judged based on perception and you know it. No I’m not close to Kahler at all nor anyone involved which means unlike you I can stand back and be objective. Elliott has been demoted twice yet still has a job and serves as a union board member. Barlow got caught padding overtime numbers and creating overtime to help himself and friends out (self admittedly) all the while sitting all a board table disrespecting command and the Sheriff. These are the people that personally manipulated thd perception of Kahler who at least fought for the betterment of the CO’s. If you’d like to give your real name we can see what skeletons your closet holds as well. The point stands that this particular union board is ineffective and hijacked by a select few to bring about their agenda. They’ve not worked with the LE union and frankly I don’t blame them for reacting not so kindly.
concernedwife says
I’ll close with this- things I’ve stated are fact. They cannot be denied. They cannot be refuted. The only person I feel badly for is the CO union president. He fell for the games of the board members who knew they needed someone in that position to do their bidding because none of them was well liked or respected enough to get the votes.
I think I’ve more than made my point that although Impallaria in my opinion was a bit elitest, it’s not all that surprising based on the actions of the current CO union board. If there’s any question of integrity, aside from Smithson the rest of them rate low on the integrity monitor.
Little Jimmy Dickens says
Concerned Wife go ahead and put your name out here, no need in hiding behind this fake name. Your not fooling anyone! If we were to open your door all your skeletons would knock us over as they fell out. You think your slick as you try talking on a daily basics trying to pry info, then hide behind this name. While I have your attentiion Stop being a SLUG!
concernedwife says
I don’t have a horse in this race so my skeletons don’t really matter all that much. I don’t give my name to protect friends who it would matter to. I didn’t see you argue any of my points? I guess that truth hit home?
SoulCrusher says
I always thought that concernedwife was MARCia Eaton……..
Bel Air Mom says
Let’s see, concerned wife just popped up for the sheriff race, knows lots of names and info (but no “dog in this race”, and has a potty mouth….
Officer Troll? Is that you?
concernedwife says
Why is everyone so concerned with who I am and not the facts I’ve shared. Not one can argue because they are fact. I see the tactic to dislike and hide for fear it hers will see the truth. It’s a sad shame when you want truth hidden. Sad indeed.
SoulCrusher says
That’s an Eaton statement if I’ve EVER heard one……..
marty o'shea says
i agree except for one thing, Bane shows them respect,very much so. He is the one who changed the badges and supports them. Gahler seems to be using these men and woman assigned to the jail as Pawns for political gain. 6 years as The Tombs indicate to me these guys have a tough job! Do not for one minute think,Bane does not respect and admire these dedicated men and Woman. In that jail protecting us from that mess of people 24-7 trust me he does, we all do!
Local Voter says
Is it true that Forwood, Visnaw, Moore, an Impallaria are working the polls Tuesday for Jesse Bane? Chicago politics..
none says
Today I paid close attention to those star signs added to the crybaby’s signs. Until you read the fine print it looks like deceptive advertising. Go figure the same group that is responsible for all the deaths at the detention center are the responsibility of the same group that endorsed the crybaby.
None says
Sorry gang, I just looked at one of Banies signs and it just says deputies endorse. He doesn’t say what deputies, so I am thinking Barney Fife. Sorry to Gahler. At least he made it clear who it was from.
marty o'shea says
yes, indeed crybaby is the one making the jail deputies the issue not bane why not proudly display CORRECTIONS DEPUTIES!!!!!!
Fed up in Harford says
Sigh…. One cop playing at 20 computers again? I have to say the Baners seem desperate.
Come on County Police says
Talk about being between a rock and a hard place….A Bane win means a Supercharged Major Presberry and her arrogant morale destroying practices or a Gahler win which really means Howard Walter and his crew are back controlling everything. It is is a sad time for the Deputies. It is time to re-visit the County Police idea.
Insider says
Bane had responded to someone on his facebook page saying the corrections deputies are not deputies just yesterday. Gahler has caught Bane in lie after lie, but missed this one. Bane was lying again to grab a vote.
Swollen Ballsak says
Privately HCDSU President Tim Impallaria and VP Chris Gibbons are politicking with Barry Glassman, Jesse Bane, Bob Hockaday, Billy Boniface, and several sitting council members. They are trying to secure support for a law enforcement only pay plan with significant raises. Raises that will leave out corrections and other county employees who will be lucky to get a 3% cola.
concerned wife says
But those are things strong leaders will do for their people. It’s called politics dumb ass and it’s precisely why the CO union sucks. They spend all month deciding what flavor wings to get for their meeting instead of actually working to accomplish something with the ur position. If the two unions were working hand in hand as in years past, this wouldn’t be an issue.
concerned wife says
Their position.
concernedwife says
But those are things strong leaders will do for their people. It’s called politics dumb ass and it’s precisely why the CO union sucks. They spend all month deciding what flavor wings to get for their meeting instead of actually working to accomplish something with their position. If the two unions were working together as in years past, this wouldn’t be an issue.
Bobby b says
Swollen…. You mean to tell me the President and Vice President for the deputies is looking to get them a raise. Wow!!!! What a crazy idea….
Undecided says
Wow, how can someone running for Sheriff put out signs stating that he is endorsed by Deputies when it’s not true? I’m sick of seeing all these mail flyers and ads slinging mud at the Democratic and Republican parties in the state of Maryland. I went out and looked at the signs that Mr Gahler put on top of his large ones and I did not even know it was the Dept of Corrections that endorsed him. The writing of the HCCA was so small that I had to go right up on it to see it. Then, I looked at Mr Banes signs. It said Our Deputies Endorse and then Harford County Sheriffs Deputies Sheriffs Union at the bottom in large print. Pretty straight forward to me.
Regardless of each other’s opinions, statistics, politics, that’s down right wrong misleading the public when Mr Gahler says deputies endorsed and it’s really not true. Then I received a Flyer the other day from Mr Gahler’s compaign degrading Mr Bane. It looked like a Halloween decoration flyer for kids with statistics, pictures and nothing but negative comments on Mr Bane. I don’t like negativity, I want to SEE facts, SEE results and tell me something POSITIVE PEOPLE. I’m an independent voter and that’s nothing but dirty politics in my book. I don’t want a Sheriff running my county that is misleading everyone and is always negative! I’m going to vote for the current Sheriff now.
1717 says
Jesse Bane is using the Real HCSO badge to promote his campaign. Saw a sticker or magnet on the back of a black pickup truck with a huge Bane for Sheriff sign on it. It is the truck parked at his campaign headquarters. The HCSO badge is displayed and written under it is endorsed by deputies. Last time I checked the union endorsed Bane not the Sheriffs Office. He should probably remove that from his campaign truck.
concernedwife says
Hey dickweed- the road guys and the correctional officers are all deputies and carry the same badge. How about you lock it up until you have something worthwhile to say.
1717 says
Chuck Moore- that doesn’t give any candidate the right to use HCSO’s badge for political purposes. Each union has it’s own logo use that.
concernedwife says
Chuck Moore. That’s who I am now. Not the sharpest tool in the shed now are ya. The HCSO badge is a standard sheriff symbol, isn’t it? Are you saying that it should be prohibited to use a standard 5 point star when advertising? Last time I checked, Bane was THE Sheriff Tuesday cannot come soon enough for this stupid petty shit to cease.
none says
None I like you decided to use my name with a capital N. Very original just like your head spokesman Markey.
4woods missing home depot receipt says
The negativity that Gahler has posted recently has been facts, if you read them and your synapses were firing you would know that. If your opponent lies through his teeth to make himself sound like the best thing since sliced bread then your only recourse is to tell people the truth. The reason it seems like Gahler is saying so many negative things is because there are so many lies told by Bane that he has to point out. When Bane stops lying, then Gahler can stop pointing out lies. The signs that say HCCA Deputies endorse are more truthful then the sign toppers by Bane that don’t specify any particular Union whatsoever. The reason HCCA is small is because the word DEPUTIES and GAHLER are much important and eye catching than another organizational acronym in a world that has become a sea of acronyms.
Bane has been a bad boy says
Don’t all you baners just wish bane had been able to disprove anything Gahler has written? Heck he even offered to drop out of the race a few times if bane could prove his lies. Haven’t seen any backbone like that from a candidate since…never. Now that is the guy who will put and end to the nonsense that we have seen in our empty suit sheriff for the last eight years.
concernedwife says
Gahler is no less conniving or self serving. Know that and know that sometimes that Pandora box should stay closed.
RavensFanTilTheEnd says
Bane nor Hopkins have made an appearance at the jail since the CO Union advised Bane that they weren’t endorsing him. Talk about lack of leadership. I mean The Sheriff does oversee the county jail. A jail that is understaffed, under paid, has piss poor self absorbed administrators with front offices, and was without a Warden for several years. And Bane wonders why the CO Union endorsed Gahler? The DEPUTIES at the jail have brought several issues to Bane regarding the lack of leadership at the jail as well as officer safety over his past term. Bane only hired a Warden for political reasons and to gain CO’s respect again and to raise his votes. Bane was told by the CO Union that he was 2 years too late. The jail is and has been in a downward spiral for years and Bane has allowed it to become what it is today. Bane has made it perfectly clear that he didn’t need any of the CO or DC employees votes this election. Bane also has given raises to LE Officers and skipped the CO’s. And Bane has discussed getting LE another raise if he is re-elected and again not giving any to the CO’s. Fair? Integrity? Impartial? I have lost all respect for Bane with his empty promises, lack of concern for ALL of his employees and his continous lies.
concernedwife says
First of all the sheriff doesn’t give raises so again let’s be wise about how we word our statements as to not mislead. The county council oversees raises and they only gave a senior dfc raise to the LE officers because the LE union sought it. Yet agsin if you unions worked together that wouldn’t have been the case. Bane and Hopkins have both been out on several occasions since the vote, perhaps you were on one of your sick days? I’m very supportive of the CO’S but half of your issues are self created as you expect more but want to do less and instead of bettering yourselves you sit and create bitch fests. You know some of us don’t get pay raises, nor have retirements or even benefits. So if you don’t like your pay or job, why don’t you leave and quit harming the morale of others. It’s just easier to sit and bitch though, isn’t it. Your union should be pushing for raises instead they are busy arguing on the dagger.
Stupid B*TCH says
WOW! You are very stupid. Do you come up with this BS yourself, or does your husband help you.
You sound like some type of shitbag used car salesman.
concernedwife says
I’m not married except to my job. And each point I stated was truth. Again you aren’t arguing it’s not truth you are just name calling. Keep showing the true colors it only helps to prove my point.
concernedwife says
Since the game is to hide truth because it hurts I’ll just repost it
First of all the sheriff doesn’t give raises so again let’s be wise about how we word our statements as to not mislead. The county council oversees raises and they only gave a senior dfc raise to the LE officers because the LE union sought it. Yet agsin if you unions worked together that wouldn’t have been the case. Bane and Hopkins have both been out on several occasions since the vote, perhaps you were on one of your sick days? I’m very supportive of the CO’S but half of your issues are self created as you expect more but want to do less and instead of bettering yourselves you sit and create bitch fests. You know some of us don’t get pay raises, nor have retirements or even benefits. So if you don’t like your pay or job, why don’t you leave and quit harming the morale of others. It’s just easier to sit and bitch though, isn’t it. Your union should be pushing for raises instead they are busy arguing on the dagger.
Marc A Eaton says
Thats funny, Meadows fought every year to get us all of our raises. He took care of all of us. Road Deputies and Deputies at the Detention Center. He worked hard for all of us.
concernedwife says
First of all the sheriff doesn’t give raises so again let’s be wise about how we word our statements as to not mislead. The county council oversees raises and they only gave a senior dfc raise to the LE officers because the LE union sought it. Yet agsin if you unions worked together that wouldn’t have been the case. Bane and Hopkins have both been out on several occasions since the vote, perhaps you were on one of your sick days? I’m very supportive of the CO’S but half of your issues are self created as you expect more but want to do less and instead of bettering yourselves you sit and create bitch fests. You know some of us don’t get pay raises, nor have retirements or even benefits. So if you don’t like your pay or job, why don’t you leave and quit harming the morale of others. It’s just easier to sit and bitch though, isn’t it. Your union should be pushing for raises instead they are busy arguing on the dagger.
Union Member says
First, Eaton didn’t say the Sheriff gave raises. So, again lets be wise about our statements so we don’t mislead.
What Eaton said is Meadows advocated for salary increases for all Deputies, not just a select few. Bane put out information that he didn’t even know about the pay increases for LE DFC over ten years until it was already a done deal. If this is true, then we really have an out of touch Sheriff!! If it is not true, then we have a Sheriff who doesn’t tell the truth, and we know that has been proven several times.
When you speak about the two unions working together for a common goal that would be ideal. Are you suggesting that the LE union approached the CO union and discussed their plans of pursuing a salary increase for all DFC’s over ten years service, only to have the CO union rebuff the LE union reaching out to them? You really want us to believe that the CO union refused to join the LE union in pursuing a pay increase? Ludicrous!
Meckley's fake bid for sheriff says
Like most people like yourself that think that they are smarter than they really are, you have over stepped your mental capacity and contradicted yourself. Concerned Wife, it was your exact words that the old union board worked well with the LE union and they were great partners until the new union board stepped in to mess that all up. In your last post you stated that the LE Master DFC raise came to LE and not corrections due to the unions not working together. The master DFC raise came in 2012 under the old union board, the new union board took office at the end of 2013. Slow down and post at the speed your brain can process the information. Time will tell after the election whether the new board has done its homework and taken the right steps with the incoming politicians to get the raises that are deserved. By then you should have had time to mentally process an appropriate apology.
concernedwife says
It took some time to go thru and read my posts but nowhere did I find where I said they worked great together but they couldn’t be any further apart right now. What j did say was in the past they worked together and that’s true. You’d hope that one could see the benefit of a cohesiveness between to two in order to establish a stronger voice but instead, this nonsense
Mike says
I could not disagree more with Mr. Gahler and Sheriff Bane (whom I support) on this issue. It is disrespectful to the deputies in patrol who clearly do a much different job than the corrections officers at the jail. Their badges should not say deputy and its actually an officer safety issue that these correctional offficers portray themselves outside the jail as deputies and on several occurrences those officers have given people the impression that they are in fact deputies with law enforcement powers, which they are not. I have an enormous amount of respect for the job the correction’s officers do, but they also have no business being in public in a deputy sheriff’s tactical duty uniform (their uniform of the day), when they are unarmed. This makes no sense whatsoever. If you want to be called deputy and wear the badge and uniform of a deputy then go through the academy as a deputy. Otherwise these people assigned to the detention center should be able to be identified as such. In fact, a couple of corrections officers have been terminated for posing as deputies.
As for the political issue at stake here. Clearly Mr. Gahler is trying to use political gamesmanship in posting stars on his campaign signs that say “Deputies Endorsed” and HCCA in size three font. This is misleading by Gahler but at the same time brilliant politically because Gahler in fact did not get the deputies union endorsement, whether it was majority or by one vote – he didn’t get it. So instead he is misleading the voters of this county to believe he was in fact endorsed by them. Shameful but brilliant.
I would have more respect if Gahler had addressed the very real issues with the corrections officers posing and dressing as deputies and suggested a way to fix this problem. They are not allowed to carry weapons to and from work, but dress as deputies and are proud to walk into public establishments armed with nothing more than a ballpoint pen. Wake up – its 2014.
Lesser of two evils is Bane. Vote Bane on election day.
Bobby b says
Mike … Your an idiot. You would have more respect if Gahler would have addressed the real problem? If it’s such a problem why wouldn’t Bane address it? Isn’t that his job?
I would be willing to bet your in a specialized unit?
HCCA Rep says
Mike you touched on several different topics there and you do make some valid points. However, the issue about us not being able to carry guns to and from work is a problem that Bane created so you haven’t exactly done him a favor bringing that up. I agree that it is a safety concern that officers appear to be patrol deputies and are unarmed but that safety concern was made a problem by Bane. Second the issue that should be of concern to the voting public is the integrity issue with sheriff Bane on the use of the word deputy. When he was standing in the spotlight mourning the death of Theresa Testerman he was proud to call us Deputies. We didn’t choose the rank structure or our job titles, the fact remains that we are ranked Deputy, Deputy First Class and so on. Bane stands before the voting public now that we have chosen overwhelmingly to endorse his opponent and denies that we are deputies because he is upset. We no longer suit his needs or serve a purpose to Bane the politician and he has chosen to completely disregard his own previous statements and a his own rank structure. This is indicative of the type of person he is and the type of leadership the agency has been dealing with.
A Real Concernedwife says
Kalher…. oops I mean concerned wife! Everyone knows its you. Just because you lost the HCCA union president vote 80% to 20% doesn’t mean you should hide behind a computer screen and bash DEPUTIES. Ok, done with you for now. Now on to more concerning issues. HCCA rep you make valid points. Mike you also make valid points. First, There were Correctional DEPUTIES who were fired for impersonating law enforcement officers but there have been many law enforcement officers who have also been fired for many reasons, IE. Receiving blow jobs on traffic stops and stealing from Walmart, receiving community services and then falsifying their community services documentation. Secondly, you bring up a very good point of correctional DEPUTIES not being armed. These correctional DEPUTIES should be armed. They deal with inmates 8-16 hours a day due to being short staffed because of Bane and his agenda. These correctional DEPUTIES receive threats of bodily harm or death on a regular occurrence. Eventually those inmates are released from the jail and know where these correctional DEPUTIES work and the time that they work. Law enforcement DEPUTIES also have to deal with the people they arrest but they are armed and able to protect there self if needed. The correctional DEPUTIES could also be armed but Bane refuses to let them be. Maybe Gahler nor Bane are the right choice for Sheriff but Bane has already failed the Sheriff DEPUTIES. YES, in case everyone did not know the DEPUTIES at the jail are sworn Sheriff DEPUTIES and wear the same badge. I mean, I think I know, I was the one that pinned the badge on my husband.
concernedwife says
I’m not Kahler either but I love to see the guesses. The hangman is almost full. 16hr shifts are a choice. I agree CO’S are deputies but instead of arguing about uniform and guns why not fight for pay and benefits and staffing. This is what our illustrious union should be doing. The Sheriff doesn’t determine that the county council does. Co’s have never in 41 year carried guns but now that’s Bane ‘ s fault? Do you see the faulty logic there? When was the last time an inmate came back to confront a CO going in or out of the DC? They can get a carry permit and interview with the sheriff in which he gives you a letter to submit to MSP to carry. If one is so concerned about their safety then they have a viable route to take. Firearms takes training, recerts, qualifications yearly which would stress the current schedules beyond their point of capacity. These are questions again our union should be addressing. Are there any other states that allow their co’s to carry without a separate carry permit? If there are, they have a precedent to work off of. If not, well you get my point. All viable concerns that union meetings should discuss and devise rational plans of execution. When they are done bitching about nothing getting done.
DC Deputy says
Yes there is other county’s and states that let there Correctional Deputies carry. We take the same firearms class and qualifications the road Deputies take every year. And yes Correctional Deputies were able to carry firearms but then there was a stop put to it by bane. And you are right we can go and get a Maryland CC permit but why when all that has to happen is the sheriff no matter who it is can give us permission. And yes there have been inmate that have come back to the DC and yes threats do happen just like A Real concerned wife said there have been state DOC employees kill by inmate that have been released all over the USA look it up. It not a matter of if it will ever happen it’s a matter of when. Look what happened in PA No one ever thought that was going to happen but it did. It’s not about being able to carry a firearm it’s about officer safety everyone want to go home at the end of the day. And on to the overtime yes there is a draft list and yes sometime we have to work 12 to 16 hours a day because we are short staffed sometimes it not an option.
DC Deputy 2 says
DC Deputy sorry for using your user name in the post above as for now we can call me DC Deputy2
Don't get it! says
I don’t get it. Why don’t people do their job! I don’t see county workers bitching about the County Executive or educators complaining about the Superintendent like they are pieces of crap! What will people do when a Sheriff is elected that wasn’t their choice? It’s a little scary.
marty o'shea says
yes, perfectly said. Do your job’s and stop complaining about bosses… Geez!
concernedwife says
It’s like children who are throwing a fit honestly. It’s sad because you can better your work environment by being a positive advocate instead a a whiny bitch. Most of us wouldn’t get away with poor behavior at our jobs.
Bullied says
I had no idea who Jeff Gahler was, other than from the nasty mailings against Sherrif Bane, until I was mailed a copy of a Facebook post he made on his site with a picture of our home and sign in the front stating we were Republicans for Sherrif Bane. He stated that he looked us up, we were Democrats and were lying. I recently changed my party affiliation after many years. This man claims to have good character and “unwavering {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252
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concernedwife says
This is precisely my point about Gahler. You all mistakenly believe I’m pro – Bane. That’s not the case. I just know what a wolf in sheep’s clothing looks like. You are better off dealing with what you are familiar with.
Concerned Officer says
You are just trying to help that Slug husband of yours get another Bar. You wrote the last letter for him getting him back on dayshift after he was reassigned to midnight shift. If you want to help him go buy him a flashlight, as he is going to need it. Buy the way I could have sworn your dad has blue and white signs out!
Hedley Lamarr says
What is concerned wife’s husbands name, you seem to know them personally.
concernedwife says
So now I’m another DC officers wife? I wish I knew who you were talking about now just so I could add it to my list of names. I highly doubt my father has signs out as he’s deceased but I guess I could drive by the old house and check? I’ll state it again because you either can’t read or are too dense to decipher truth. I’m unmarried. I work in the HCSO but am not involved in this political waste of time. You all would be surprised how many people talk and what they say. You secrets are not very secret. My points stand. It’s alarming how fast you all turn on one another accusing of this and that what’s even worse is you are so off base.
Bullied says
I had no idea who Jeff Gahler was, other than from the nasty mailings against Sherrif Bane, until I was mailed a copy of a Facebook post he made on his site with a picture of our home and sign in the front stating we were Republicans for Sherrif Bane. He stated that he looked us up, we were Democrats and were lying. I recently changed my party affiliation after many years. This man claims to have good character and “unwavering
integrity.” Seriously? He is not my definition of either. Who does he already think he is that he can post a private citizen’s home and license plates on a public sight and accuse them of lying without their consent? When I forced him to take it down, threatening legal action, he continued to tell me it was “100% truth.” This man obviously thinks in black or white and he is always right. He never apologized when he knew this upset us immensly. He was wrong to do this on every level. Think about it before any of you continue to proclaim about his character and integrity.
Dems smell bad says
Perfect Baner, a dem that puts a rep sign in his yard. Sell you bs elsewhere.
BillH says
The scary part is how many others did he look up til he found what he thought he was looking for?
Talking to Libs says
@bullied,
Bane lies about Gahler countless times, he lies to his staff saying Gahler fired 70 troopers, he maliciously passed over the best person for promotion and then lied about it, he maliciously targets and illegally fired a female deputy and the lied about it, he’ll Gahler still gives bane credit in this story, but in truth Bane is again lying to people saying they are deputies when it suits his needs and they aren’t when it doesn’t. All that and you want to put a sign in your yard that is also a lie? Shame on you.
Bullied says
WOW, “Talking to Libs!” I’m pretty sure by your “and you want to put a sign in your yard that is also a lie” that you ARE Gahler. You are still insisting I am not a Republican. Unreal! Maybe my elderly mother is right. She didn’t want me to pursue this because she is afraid if you do become sheriff you will send someone out to target me.
BillH says
Looks like you are presumed guilty no mater what.
What a fine quality to have in a Sheriff.
Talking to Libs says
Wow! Nope not Gahler, but one heck of an accusation you are willing to throw out there. Your credibility has joined Banes In the toilet.
concernedwife says
This is classic. Gahler not only posts a picture in public with personal identifying info. He goes one step further to discover their political affiliation in order for wgat? To say it’s Bane fault again? Then instead of apologizing for a poor political decision he just asserts that he is right? So now he is ok targeting best friend and public joe to get what he wants. Yes, so much better than Bane.
LOL says
ok Tammy LOL
Bullied says
Talking to Libs, I sincerely wish my story was not true and it never happened. I have the copy that was mailed to me. My mother was only suggesting that if he did that to private citizens minding their own business, what would he do if confronted?
monster says
Does Gahler own The Dagger? Everything that guy writes appears on this site. This site is no better than The Sun or some of the other rags. It caters to Gahler about nothing. I guess that is why Marc Eaton uses it so much. Shameful.
Lenny Lane says
No more than the Sleagis caters to Bane. Bane chooses not to correspond with the Dagger. So shut up
monster says
That is because what you Gahler-Lights think is important isn’t. It is a bunch of kid stuff. So, Lenny Lane, take your own advice and shut up.
Marc A Eaton says
Does Bane own the Slaegis? The Deputies Correction Union could not get their endorsement of Gahler printed. Gahler sends his letters to the Slaegis but they won’t post them. Why is that? Monster you and the second floor hate the Dagger because they print the truth. Bane could send them letters and they would post it. I have sent letters to the Slaegis and Kennedy wouldn’t post them. So don’t boo hoo about the coverage on here. Bane has been caught in three lies and has answered to none. I know how much Bane hates the Dagger because he about blew his stack talking about it on the Union Debate Video. You know, the one the Union pulled down because it showed Bane a man in trouble. He Monster, ask Bane about the time he had a ticket nolle prossed for a farmer friend in the upper end. Ask Roy Mitchelle about it. I wish I had kept a copy of this. Ticket fixing is against the law but we know what Bane thinks about things like this right. By the way that deputy who issued the citation is still working there. Why do you not want people to know how Bane operates?
monster says
Marc, Sounds like you don’t like the union anymore. Is that because your big promise that they would endorse Gahler was a bunch of crap? Will you beat the union now the way you have Bane because they wronged you? You are so transparent and pathetic. You remind me of a kid in school who wants so bad to be part of the group, and reveals his inside information, rumor and prejudice at every opportunity to anyone dumb enough to buy in to his folly. There’s an old Mark Twain saying that goes, “keep your mouth shut if you have nothing of value to say,. It is far better to be quiet and have everyone think your ignorant, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
Marc A Eaton says
I suggest that the people who did not vote to endorse Bane in the Deputies Union go to the FOP Lodge 31. At least you have more control over your money and what is done with it. You don’t have people making biased decisions on who they want to help financially. This Union lost it’s way when Miner took over and has gone down hill ever since. JJ was in it to get a special sector and his unmarked car. Nothing has changed.
monster says
What a sore loser….and then to insult those who voted to endorse Bane.
Proud To Be A Liberal says
Jesse Bane will win this election by a longshot. Then when it’s over law enforcement deputies who stood by him will be rewarded. Corrections OFFICERS who didn’t endorse a good man will go back to the jail and learn from their mistakes. DFC Rambo Eaton will be voted out of the HCDSU and will go back to hibernation in his pen factory. Marc’s disgruntled cronies will go back to work and learn to shut up. That is all folks! See you all again in 2018.
Union Member says
Thanks for admitting/acknowledging that Sheriff Bane is a vindictive man who will use politics as a tool against his employees.
Marc A Eaton says
Proud, I hope someone else hijacked your name and posted this. This is low even for you. You are correct, this is the way the Bane machine will roll.
Marc A Eaton says
You also proved why so many did not vote in the LE Union vote. You said those who supported Bane will be rewarded. If the vote is so private how would he know who voted for his endorsement? When that many people do not trust the voting process that tells us all how on the up and up the LE Union is. It also shows how people fear the wrath of Bane and minions.
Proud Not To Be Liberal says
Well, so much for winning the election by a long shot.
Taxpayer says
We need a federal investigation into Sheriff Bane and the Deputies union. Seems like some funny business with Forwood, Visnaw, Impallara, and so on.
Just Asking says
This is business as usual for the Deputies Union. They essentially stood behind Visnaw even though they knew he was sleeping during his duty shift, and they stood silent on the Forwood issue even though they knew he was guilty. There was a time when the Deputies Union was a viable and useful tool for the citizens of Harford County. That time has passed. Now the union leadership is in bed with Bane to get the most for themselves during their time as union leaders. The folks who suffer most are the dues paying membership who catch the crap regardless of who throws it…… Bane or the union leadership.
Big Black says
How come there has never been a black union boss? Are these deputies racists?
CDEV says
Right on Big Black. Whats up with dat
Otto Schmidlap says
Harford Sheriff’s Election Odds:
Bane 5-2
Shellnut 8-1
Gahler 9-1
Final prediction will appear Wednesday.
Pavel314 says
Shellnut? My sample ballot shows no Shellnut. It would be nice to have an alternative, a “none of the above” vote.
Big Black says
Otto, No black candidates? Shaft, anybody?
price is right says
The Sheriff’s office should just take care of the prison and court services. Its about time HCG got its own police force under the power of the County Government. Only small time towns and counties can still function under a mostly rural system. Police force chiefs should serve at the pleasure of the CE, not the electorate.
Union Member says
Having a county police department is all about the power of the county government and executive to have control over the police department and the appointed Chief. It has nothing to do with the actual policing.
I would not describe Jacksonville Florida, a very large city, and the entire Duval County were Jacksonville is located, as anything but large. The police force for all of Duval County along with the entire city of Jacksonville is handled by the Duval County Sheriff’s Office. Disbanding the law enforcement element from our Sheriff’s Office would be all about the power of the executive and an additional unnecessary cost to county taxpayers.
Come on County Police says
@ price is right
I agree with you 100% . THE TIME IS NOW FOR A COUNTY POLICE DEPT!!! The perfect argument is—- with Bane you have Major Presberry trying to run things by being a bully to any one that does no genuflect when she comes in to a room or with Gahler who will allow the Howard Walter machine to run the office. Both scenarios really stink. The cops of Harford County deserve better options. Please think hard about the county police concept..
Just Asking says
Just think, if you had a county police department Howard Walter could be Chief of Police. He would not have to get elected, just appointed by the County Executive. You may be on to something here!
SoulCrusher says
You know other Jurisdictions like having a County run PoPo Department. You can work your years as a County Cop, retire and then work for the Sheriff’s Department while receiving your pension.
Arturro Nasney says
@price, you may be 100% corrrect in your call for a county police department, but the reality is it cannot and will not ever happen. There are a total of four empires with emperors having his own rice bowl that needs to be considered. All three municipalities have their own police department and no mayor or city manager is going to let that go. The county exec probably wishes he or she had the poswr to appoint a single chief of police the way Kamenetz does in Baltimore County, but will never get it past the municipalities. If you eliminated the three forces, the cities would no longer have much reason to exist. Further, the citizens of the three towns woul never accept the HCSO response time when compared to the time they enjoy now.
Phil Dirt says
One thing to remember is that there are no incorporated municipalities in Baltimore County (not even Towson), so no local government exists below the county level. And at least in Bel Air, the “emperors” tag doesn’t fit. The ‘Mayor’ is just one of the Town Commissioners who gets to lead the meetings and cut ribbons at grand openings. The Commissioners would probably fight a move like this, and so would a vast majority of the town’s citizens. The services received in exchange for a town tax, including the police dept., are well-liked and appreciated, and since it ain’t broke in Bel Air, why would they want to fix it?
SoulCrusher says
Who said Bel Air’s Police Department isn’t broke? I hear you guys have the integrity of a Waffen SS Guard in a Jewish bread bakery……..
Marc A Eaton says
Wow, they are making pot legal and you still rant on. You are the only just and good person in the world. All hail the Soul Crusher, the Crusher of Souls.
SoulCrusher says
Well its about time you finally paid homage to the MAN…….I’m not good and just, “Am I EVIL, YES I AM, AM I EVIL, I AM MAN, YES I AM………”
SoulCrusher says
By the way Marc, SOULCRUSHER is a White Zombie Song. All my monikers are. SoulCrusher, Thunder Kiss, AstroCreep, Creature of the Wheel and Black Sunshine are the ones I’ve used over the past 4 years. How many have you used over the past 4 years?
Hedley Lamarr says
Don’t pick on the Bel air police department, these poor guys are really over worked, they are still looking for the guy on the motorcycle that made a jump on main street a few years back.
SoulCrusher says
Marc, regardless if they ever make “Pot” legal, I was convicted both unconstitutionally and illegally. I will not be satisfied until they “criminals” in the Harford County Criminal Justice System have been weeded out and forced to take personal responsibility for their actions. Harford County has a serious problem and its not going away because of Marijuana Legalization. You got three Judges in your Circuit Court that need to be removed because of their illegal, unethical and unconstitutional actions that allow the Criminals in the Harford County State’s Attorney Office to gain convictions illegally. Period. You got a County Prosecutor that feels that a person only has rights if he and his cronies on that same Circuit Court say they do. Finally, you got a slue of Deputies in your Sheriff’s Office that could not tell the truth if their lives depended on it. No matter what the crime, the Citizens of Harford County will not be safe until these issues are addressed and corrected. The elections are only a small part of the battle, I will see the scum removed from your Jurisdiction and its Criminal Justice System. Mark my words, the reckoning is about to begin…….
Fed up in Harford says
Brian Goodman, has this article won most posts of the year yet? Lol. Lordy.
hear it hear it says
The deaths at the jail occurred because Bane forced the former warden, and then the former major to run shifts under staffed in order to keep overtime expenses down. The safety of both the deputies and inmates remains in jeopardy because Bane knows nothing about corrections or police work. He does however know how to use a pencil and create statistics, or should I say lies.
DC Deputy 2 says
The deaths at the jail have nothing to do with being under staffed sorry I work there. Now don’t get me wrong we are very under staffed but the deaths at the DC have all been suicide unfortunately you really can’t do to much about someone who is so determine to kill them self. If they do not show any signs and or talk about it then you really don’t know what is going on in there heads. Death is a horrible thing but I am so tired of hearing about the deaths at the jail. Last time I checked every “death at the jail” happened at the hospital all the inmates were revived by the fine men and woman at the DC. Every inmate left the DC in the ambo with a pulse and died at the hospital. Staffing is one thing but the deaths are another. Everyone needs to know what they are talking about before they speak about the “deaths at the jail”. I know the 100% the suicides that I have been on the inmates lived until they left the DC and then lived at the hospital for a few days until they died there.
SoulCrusher says
I agree that it is incredibly difficult to prevent deaths by suicide at the Detention Center. I feel for your situation, even though you all know I disdain you all. However, when someone is incarcerated, it is your responsibility for their safety. Whenever a death by suicide occurs, especially when they are on monitoring, the officers who were given the responsibility of overseeing the care of the afflicted have committed a crime. Its called, ” Abuse or neglect of a vulnerable adult in the first degree”. The statute is Md. CRIMINAL LAW Code Ann. § 3-604 (2014). Please read it carefully and note there is no waiver for Detention Centers or their Employees. Sorry, its sad but true………..
Nosy Neighbor says
Although I can see why you’d think that statute would apply. I disagree. I don’t think the intent of that statute is to make all detainees/prisoners “vulnerable adults” under the statute. I think that is the only way to make that statute apply. That statute is designed to criminalize situations where family/caregivers do not appropriately care for or downright abuse adults who cannot care for themselves. Sort of like child abuse, but for adults.
For argument’s sake, let’s pretend the statute does apply: in order to prove “neglect,” you’d have to prove intent. In this statute, neglect doesn’t mean “oops, I messed up” it means someone neglected to do something intentionally.
It isn’t a crime under this statute.
SoulCrusher says
I disagree, in a monitored situation, whether it be for medical or mental health reasons, constant monitoring is required. If an officer walks away from the monitoring, by either leaving the inmate’s direct area or by leaving his monitor screen in the control room, an act of intentional neglect has occurred. It would be a crime under this statute. After all it is a monitored situation. But your right, what do I know? I’m just a felon that has no idea what he’s talking about, right………
Nosy Neighbor says
Right. A jailhouse lawyer is not a lawyer. You can read, but not necessarily accurately interpret and understand the law. Just because you don’t like lawyers, judges, and the system in general, doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t have respect for the education, training, and intelligence that is required for that achievement. If it was easy, everyone would be able to do it.
Under your reading, each prisoner would have to be assigned his/her own individual officer to stare at him/her all day, all night. Not possible, not practical, not the law.
Again, using your interpretation that a vulnerable adult would include someone who is incarcerated (and that a correctional officer is a “household member” under the statute), the officer must intentionally fail to provide supervision. That means walking away and staying away, not returning when supposed to. It seems to me that you are having trouble with the word neglect. Again, it doesn’t mean “oops, I —-up,” it means, “—- you and the horse you rode in on, I won’t be back to check on you for 18hours (when I’m supposed to check every 30min)”
No matter how hard you try, this is not a crime. It is a civil matter. That should make you happy – it is a lower standard of proof, easier to prove negligence in the civil system than it is to prove a crime…
Nosy Neighbor says
Oh, for crying out loud… Go back to middle school. Learn the difference between federal laws and state laws.
The guard (not in Maryland) was not charged with Abuse of a Vulnerable Adult (the Maryland crime you think applies to the Harford County Detention Center), he was charged with Malfeasance in Office.
Just because something is a crime somewhere (local/state) in the United States, does not make it a crime everywhere! If you think someone in the Harford County Detention Center should be charged with a federal crime, don’t cite a STATE statute.
Geez Louise. Stick to what you know.
SoulCrusher says
It is a crime and your procedures are deficient. I don’t care about your education, it only takes knowledge of the meaning of words to interpret the law. You screwy lawyers think your fancy tongues can whip about any meaning you want to anything that is presented to you, you’re wrong. You can not contradict the letter of the law, you anal retentive blood fart. Yes, you are the custodians of inmates until they are released from your CARE. Especially, in a monitored situation, as I stated in my original comment. If a inmate is on suicide watch, then they are to be monitored 24/7. Your facility is responsible and the officer assigned to their care is a criminal, regardless of intent, because he deliberately stopped doing his mandated job.
SoulCrusher says
Furthermore, lawyer, go back to law school and adjust your SCROTAL RECALL on Maryland’s 2nd Article on the Declaration of Rights, which plainly states that Federal Law is the Supreme Law of Maryland. The law is the law, boy. Not go make me a chicken pot pie and pour me a cup of coffee, punk.
SoulCrusher says
One last thing, if you think I should respect the achievements of a “Paid Liar”, then I think you should at least respect the rights of a “Human Being” Jackalope……..
SoulCrusher says
“Vulnerable adult” means an adult who lacks the physical or mental capacity to provide for the adult’s daily needs. I would classify an inmate as such as he does not have the physical capacity to provide for his daily needs. An inmate is confined and is serving a time length sentence for a crime or awaiting trial. There is no provision under the law that negates these facts……..
SoulCrusher says
A caregiver, a parent, or other person who has permanent or temporary care or responsibility for the supervision of a vulnerable adult may not cause abuse or neglect of the vulnerable adult that:
(i) results in the death of the vulnerable adult;
(ii) causes serious physical injury to the vulnerable adult; or
(iii) involves sexual abuse of the vulnerable adult.
Correctional Officers are “Care Givers” in this situation, not “Household Member” idioso……..
SoulCrusher says
I guess anyone who reads the law and isn’t a lawyer is a “Jailhouse Lawyer” to you. Funny, I didn’t have access to law references in jail, I did once I got out. So where does this “Jailhouse Lawyer” thing take us. Right back to what I said earlier. Can’t trust Devil with Forked Tongue. Must rely on own opinion and judgment.
Union Member says
I fail to see your point regarding where the inmate was pronounced deceased. The suicide attempt occurred in the jail and was ultimately successful regardless of where the inmate was pronounced deceased. Your poor attempt to distract from inmates dieing at the jail leaves one wondering just how seriously you take your job.
I would also disagree that staffing had nothing to do with some of the successful suicides. On occasion certain inmates were placed on 15min watches in lieu of a constant watch specifically because of a lack of staffing.
My personal view is that any watch initiated because the inmate has been diagnosed as a possible suicide risk should be conducted by medical staff. Inmates who are truly suicidal do much better when watched by someone who can verbally interact with them regarding their depression and stress that leads to the suicidal tendencies.
concernedwife says
Of course you do, then you wouldn’t have to do it or be at risk for being thought responsible if something happened. It doesn’t take a medical person to watch someone. You are saying that people were assigned constant watch and moved to 15 min watch due to staffing? That’s complete bullshit and you know it. Not one supervisor there, even the bad ones, would make that call and risk a suicide. This is however where the new mental health section that Bane is the driving force behind will help. People with true issues can get treatment they need.
Union Member says
@concernedwife
You need to re-read what I said.
First, I never stated that anyone was “removed” from a constant watch and placed on a 15min watch due to staffing. I said that some individuals had been placed on a 15min watch in lieu of a constant watch because of staffing.
Second, I never said that the Deputies were not responsible people who could watch a suicidal inmate. I said that in my opinion, medical staff were better suited to perform that function as they could better address the inmates depression. Suicidal individuals seem to be more comfortable with medical staff than with correctional staff. It has nothing to do with the individual being responsible.
Most watches are initiated by medical staff not correctional staff. Likewise, persons being removed from a watch status are removed by medical staff not correctional staff.
Lastly, you make my opinion even more credible with your comment that Bane wants to create a mental health unit where suicidal individuals can receive better care.
hear it hear it says
This guy “mike” must think cops are above all in the food chain. Trying to say a fellow deputy from the jail in their issued uniform is impersonating an officer. Mike dares to say that deputies from the jail “have no business ” being in uniform. What a stuck up jackass. Who in God’s name is he to say such a thing !
hear it hear it says
By the way the deputies at the jail receive the same firearms training as the deputies in law enforcement. So to suggest any uniform is safe to be in out in public while unarmed is ridiculous.
DC Deputy 2 says
Hear it hear it you are right on this post we do get the same firearms training that LE gets. Every year we take the same in service classes and the same firearm class and qualifications.
concernedwife says
Aren’t there locker rooms there to change into civilian clothes after a shift?
LOL WAT says
If anything, Harford County should do something like a, “Edgewood-Joppa Regional Police,” similar to what PA has.
An entire new ‘department’ that has jurisdiction in a ‘region’ with still mutual aid from State agencies, and the Sheriff’s Deputies for Law Enforcement.
Lance From Hickory says
Here is a list if things that I have learned because of the Sheriffs election. Remember this is my perception as a citizen from the outside looking in.
1.) regardless of who wins the election major problems exist at the Sheriff station.
2.) regardless of what you think of Marc Eaton he was at least willing to use his real name and he does seem to care about the job he retired from
3.) cops complain a lot
4.) people can lie and still remain employed
5.) Jesse Bane likely has Dementia
6.) If Jeff Gahler looses he will likely move to West Virginia
7.) the county taxpayers will likely have to foot the bill for the helicopter in the near future
8.) everyone on both sides has nothing good to say about someone Named Major Pressburg(not sure if I spelled it right)
9.) a lot of people don’t make it alive out of the detention center
10.) Bane says crime is down and has stats to prove it
11.) Gahler says that crime is not down and that the stats are not accurate
12.) lastly I really don’t know who to vote for because both candidates haven’t said much about what they plan to do if elected.
Monster says
Lance,
Bane will continue to do as he has. Look at the crime statistics. For anyone to say that they are not accurate is political garbage. Talk to people who know Bane’s involvement in the county. They will tell you that he knows and practices fighting crime in a variety of ways. Police cannot stop crime on their own. Bane has always been an active member of the Harford community.. As for Gahler, his supporters don’t tell you what he will do, probably because it is a copy of what is being done. All they want to do is downgrade Bane and talk about bad conditions for deputies. Look back at past posts and see what you think.
Marc A Eaton says
Monster, Proud has already declared Bane the winner in this race and told us what he will do to those who voted to support Gahler. Why are you still on here preaching the glory of Bane?
PB says
Great list, thank you.
This statement told me all I need to know for my vote. It’s probably polarizing. Some people will love it — some will hate it. At least it’s strong and clear.
http://www.daggerpress.com/2014/08/17/gahler-i-will-not-enforce-any-unconstitutional-law-that-infringes-on-the-second-amendment-rights-of-harford-county-citizens/
meanwhile back at the ranch... says
Deputies at the jail receive the exact same firearms/taser/in service classes as LE does. They should all be recognized as deputies because that’s what they are! Why does this agency have to constantly try to one up eachother? As a matter of fact, a number of the corrections deputies can shoot significantly better than the road guys. There’s no reason for that one in my opinion. Also since when can a patrol deputy go over the posted speed limit when not responding to a call? Or if they are responding, why isn’t their emergenCy lighting and sirens activated? Dangerous to the citizens minding their business trying to travel the roads…
Sleepy Fred says
Does anyone know which polls Visnaw, Forwood, Moore, Pressberry, and Impallaria are working tomorrow?
concernedwife says
Certain calls are not authorized for lights and sirens but I am sure you would want them driving faster than normal responding if it was you that called.
Just Asking says
Really?
What calls are not authorized for activation of emergency equipment where the responding deputy would need to disregard normal traffic laws and exceed the speed limits or disregard traffic control signals?s2sw
New Voter says
Excellent post Lance From Hickory! Gahler will be the better choice it’s not just about crime statistics it’s about integrity. It’s time for a change in guard!!!
concernedwife says
Gahler has more integrity? What pointed you to this opinion, his attempts to attack his ex best friend for taking a job under Bane? Or maybe posting a picture of a local citizens home with their mail box and license plate and then researching their voter affiliation and then calling them liars on social media? Then when called out couldn’t bear to apologize. Sounds like a stand up guy to me. I am not saying Bane is perfect by any means but this was an innocent private citizen and his best friend. If you think he is any better you are deluding yourself.
LiarLenny says
The only guard to change is the name of those at the jail… GUARDS, not police. Police carry guns, guards can change at work and drive home in jeans and tshirts therefore no need to carry a gun and act like police
concernedwife says
Some of those guards out work those “police” on a daily basis and disrespecting what they do speaks to who you are more than what you think they are.
I’m not against them carrying I just believe their union should be gathering info and precedents and working toward that goal instead of fighting Gahler battles on the dagger.
Marc A Eaton says
You mean keeping their mouth shut and just go with the flow when it comes to speaking their mind and having opinions against the most unethical sheriff in history. By using people like Chuck and Eddie to favor votes. Let me see Bane was doing a search for a qualified Warden and it went on for a few years and he appointed someone with no corrections experience whatsoever. Nothing political there. Then he appointed Eddie to second in command because he knew Eddie was on Jeff’s list to be number two. Nope, nothing political there either. Lets see, Bane was caught in three lies, how do you feel about that? That seems to be okay with you. Shows your character now doesn’t it?
Keep calm says
Exit polls indicate Bane victory by a lot more than most thought
Union Member says
We know one thing for sure. The correct call is that Sheriff Bane is going to be making an EXIT. This is wonderful news for the many employees at the HCSO. It also means that the cronies who Sheriff Bane recently placed in senior positions as political patronage will also be leaving with him.
tom delaney says
and now the end is near,and we face the final curtain Gahler has lost yet again. Bane is the Sheriff and the Negative yelping and crybaby desperation has failed. Tell me why Capaso,Gahler and Walters where they should turn,
Proud Not To Be Liberal says
Not sure your comment is correct, tom
Fred Sleeps at Woolworth says
Yeah probably, Gahler will be up all night until the precincts that need help counting finally report…
NorespectCO says
Congratulations Jeff Gahler on your win for Sheriff, and welcome back now Warden Capasso!!
Informed Voter says
Great prediction Tom. You wanna try that again?! Big congrats to Gahler on his WIN!
John T. Murphy says
thanks G~D this is over! Jeff won and is now the Sheriff! Bane who is a fine man a great cop has served us well.I hope the politics stop and Jeff can do as well as Bane or better if such a thing can be measured. I am sure Jeff will do well and possible re-think some of his thoughts should they not work as planned. The county will remain safe,thanks to the men and woman on the street.
Read Between the Lines says
Tim Impallaria’s union presidency is nothing more than an ego stroke, additional income and a steppingstone for what he hopes is a political career. He believes he can eventually parlay his union stint into a political career using name recognition from his brother – like having 1 of them in office ain’t enough. He’s a game player for personal gain and of course is bedding down with all of the other political desperados. He’s buddies with the politicos associated with his brother, Barry Glassman being one of them. And shame on Barry Glassman for getting a pay raise when there’s no money for anyone else – which of course, was pursued by his buddy Bill Boniface (and let’s see what Boniface ends up doing). And bull on Barry for saying he doesn’t have anyone picked out for positions. Why do you think Cindy Mumby is no longer with the Dagger? Wait and see where she turns up.
Dissenter says
I have a mission statement for ya, I as a harford co sheriff’s deputy pledge not to beat with a batton, or the butt of my gun, not to shot or tazz to death, and not to verbally or mentally abuse innocent citizens.I pledge not to search a citizens car or home without a legal search warrent. Not one aquired after the fact or one aquired from some drunk. I pledge not to be an arrogant, belligerent, callous, disrespectful, prick when making traffic stops and I promise not to falsify evidence or outright lie on charging documents. I promise as a peace officer to stop making war on innocent citizens.
There is no cop in harford co who could live by these words, but remember this, we are watching every move you make. Waiting for the moment when we can finally be rid of a worthless, useless, outdated, canabalistic system that preys on mostly the weak and downcast. A system that profits the already filthy rich and destroys everyone else. Our prison system in this country is at least a sin and at most a pathetic laugh and you, as a sworn upholder of the peace are part of the problem.
SoulCrusher says
Spoken like a true Crusher of Heads, Holes and Souls. Amen, to everything you said………
AppliedTactical says
Well, you would have to fix the crappy grammar, but good job old boy!
…and “crusher”, the only thing you could crush is the beer can on your porch. Quit being so damn difficult with everyone because of your place in life. If you had put half of much effort into actually proving you were “wrongly convicted” or “illegally arrested” as you do into reminding us about it on a daily basis, then things may have turned out differently.
“I was convicted both unconstitutionally and illegally.” – If that is the case, there are appellate courts for that very reason. Suggest you hire an attorney, of your choosing, and take your illegalities up with the Supreme Court.
“I will not be satisfied until they “criminals” in the Harford County Criminal Justice System have been weeded out and forced to take personal responsibility for their actions.” – Exactly, and you are indeed one of those criminals since you have been intimately involved with the criminal justice system. So why not take some personal responsibility for your own actions instead of blaming everyone else?
“Harford County has a serious problem” – indeed. It allows free posting to one of it’s news sites so we have to hear about your unconstitutional arrest and conviction.
“Mark my words, the reckoning is about to begin…….” – does that mean you voted for Gahler?
SoulCrusher says
Wow, you can quote me from an article a week ago, verbatim even. You see, I would’ve laid the “Smack” down on you before but Cahill likes to censor my comments. So, I’m not talking about that here. However, I find it interesting that Cahill allows you to taunt me, on completely unrelated material to the article, without censoring you. So blow it out your A$$.
SoulCrusher says
Oh yeah, Applied Tactical Training Bra. Just had to get one in Marc…..
Blackula says
I know this case. There hasn’t been a decision made on it. It says Active/Reopened on it. I know Adam and he don’t lie. If you MF’ers did what he says you all did then why hide it. Let the world know. That’s what I did a couple years back when I was complaining about the same Marston guy and his racist arrests. You know, I believe that Aaron Cahill is the same piece of trash that use to censor me. Got a bunch of you mFer’s in trouble too. Anyway, Applied Tactical, can you tell me why so many arrests of African American males happen in Harford county, when they are the minority? Can you tell me why African Americans in Harford county are constantly discriminated against in the courts? Can you tell me why white Harford County gets a slap on the wrist while all the brothers are constantly getting time? No, you can’t because you just a racist. All you cops here in Harford County are racists. Even the black ones, so don’t act like your stuff don’t stink, Applied Tactical, you all know whats being said is true
Cheese Smells says
Blacks commit most of the crime so Blacks like you Obama and Holder should do more time.
Blackula says
Like you aren’t racist. Typical Harford county racist trash. I like it thogh, it keeps me pissed off with all you white mfers. White people should do more time because they white, that’s enough for me. You say Black people steal things, I say we take things. We do it right in front of yor face too. Theres a difference between stealing and taking. Stealing your trying to do it and not get caught. Taking means you do it right infront of the white 8itch and don’t give a F_ck. We do it because you all racist. You know why Edgewood has so many problems, becvause you racists are patrolling there and not other parts of the county. That’s why all your white kids are strung out on that dope and pills. Its because your white. You deserve it.
AppliedTactical says
Soul Brother and Count Blackula: You made my point. You blame everyone else instead of owning up to your own actions, and are quick to push the racist button.
Since I am a relatively new poster here, I cannot speak to any censoring by the dagger.
I will say, that as a Black American, you are the ones giving the rest of us a bad name.
Soul, I hope your court actions work out.
Black, I am neither white, nor am I law enforcement. Kinda blows your pathetic attempt at an educated response.
Douche.
SoulCrusher says
What actions do I need to own up to? I’ve never said I did nothing wrong, I’ve repeatedly claimed that the search was illegal, that the Narcotics Task Force knew it was illegal and gave perjured testimony to the judge who issued the warrant. However, after investigation, I realized that there was no way that the judge who issued the warrant did not know that the testimony was perjured. Instead of correcting a wrong by the Narcotics Task Force, the Harford County State’s Attorney Office decided to cover it up. Three Judges, two Assistant State’s Attorneys and the help of my very own lawyer guaranteed an unconstitutional and illegal conviction. Everyone who took part in this is guilty of Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law. My evidence against the State is the Court’s own records. Basically, the Harford County Criminal Justice System knowingly and willingly covered up its wrong doing, forced a conviction of an unconstitutional nature and once again with the use of that same corrupt attorney I hired, used threats and a frivolous lawsuit to prevent me from asserting my rights via Post Conviction remedies. By the way, I’m not black and I’m not buying the manure your trying to sell about being new to the Dagger. Harford County’s entire Criminal Justice System is broken, corrupt and contemptible beyond repair. I lost everything due to this conviction and just want the criminals in the System to pay the price for their actions. I already paid the price for mine.
Applied Practical says
How many times has the Trees Made Of Money used this line, “So why not take some personal responsibility for your own actions instead of blaming everyone else?”??? When are you cops going to take some personal responsibility for your actions and stop blaming everyone else? The question fits both ways people. You can’t let one take responsibility and not make the others accept responsibility for their actions also. It would be a hypocrisy to allow it the Applied Tactical wants it to be.
AppliedTactical says
I am not a cop.
SoulCrusher says
You act like one….or someone else in your corrupt county’s justice system.
The Realist says
Applied Tactical, why did you get this started? Its totally off topic to what the discussion was about. Do you really want to get this guy started again?
AppliedTactical says
Yeah, pretty much. Afraid of a little debate?
SoulCrusher says
Il n’y a pas de débat à eu lieu, car la vérité, c’est dans les tribunaux propres dossiers et est irréfutable
OH NO ITS THE PO PO says
I don’t know about everything in this case but I read the printout of the recorded telephone calls at the jail. This guy didn’t threaten anyone and he was held without bail for no reason. The judge at his bail review was obviously not impartial. That’s all I got to say.
SoulCrusher says
The sin which is unpardonable, is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.
AppliedTactical says
Nevertheless have the greatest self-respect, and to that end, sin not against thyself.
SoulCrusher says
Profitez de la vie et laisser mon seul robinet…
Hedley Lamarr says
Soulcrusher, even thou I’m not a fan of the ACLU have you touched based with them to see if they would have interest in your case? I do believe in protecting our rights. BTW, I’m not a fan of the Harford County justice system.
Truth Is says
Come on man. Do you really believe anything SoulCrusher has to say. He is making this out to be a JFK conspiracy. He’s nothing more than a disgruntled guilty punk.
SoulCrusher says
The truth is what I speak, you can believe whatever you want, but I do believe in an impartial court I will win. We shall see won’t we……..
Dissenter says
i want to comment on that person, not even worth mentioning its name, who said harfords legal gang with guns should be trained at the pissing palace? well you are an either an ass or one of the owners which makes your observations worthless either way. yea, let’s teach them how to maline, belittle, intimate, demoralize and cuff and beat innocent citizens like they do at that joke of a jail. you know the one, the one that fat assed sanctimonious hypocrites in long black robes own? yes let’s teach them how to get away with perjury and to falsify charging documents and how to effectively tazz a citizen to dead before they actually start killing citizens on the street who don’t see it coming. citizens who still think that the police are here serve and protect instead of what they really stand for, money hungry power. most of the fools who post here are idiots and those who talk about our biggest joke, the county jail , just don’t know what they’re talking about, because they’re talking out their ass ……I was there and I can tell you from experience that there was not one single person there who would make a trustworthy cop. Yes I was innocent until proven guilty, what a pathetic joke. the pigs at the detention center treat everyone like a criminal. they treat you like yesterdays trash, because they are today’s trash…….here is my hope and prayer for all judges and anyone who wears a gun and a badge in harford co. …..” eat shit and die” I hope your families suffer and your life is cut short, that your children become drug addicts and your name goes down in flames. hopefully carr and copper, marsden and bane will be first.