From Arthur Grieshaber:
Jeff Gahler, Harford County’s next Sheriff!
As a retired law enforcement officer myself and a former union president, it’s my professional opinion that Mr. Gahler is an upstanding and honorable law enforcement officer, Johns Hopkins University, Public Safety Leadership instructor, and Harford County citizen. Gahler truly believes that all law abiding citizens of Harford County, the State of Maryland, and this great Nation, absent felons and individuals with current mental illnesses, should all have the right to keep and bear arms under our Constitution’s 223 year old Second Amendment
Progressives like Mr . Bane wish to disarm the citizens of Harford County, State of Maryland, and the Nation so they can continue their progressive socialist agenda without the fear of reprisal from its citizens. The Second Amendment was put in place to protect the citizens from our government and the possibility of tyranny in the future. In addition, criminals and non-law abiding individuals will continue to carry illegal weapons, regardless of the toughest gun laws. This is seen in those cities with the toughest gun laws, including Maryland’s newest Firearm Safety Act of 2013. The murder rates in Baltimore City, New York City, City of Detroit, and the City of Chicago are astronomical despite their tough Democrat gun laws.
It is irresponsible and ludicrous on behalf of Mr. Bane to jeopardize the life and safety of our correction officers and our Harford County citizens by not authorizing correction officers to come and go from their duty assignments, in and out of uniform, and by not allowing them to be armed off duty. This is truly IRRESPONSIBILITY on behalf of Mr. Bane.
The disarming of the American citizen should not and cannot be allowed to occur. The most effective way to stop the disarmament of our citizens is to vote each anti-gun Democrat proponent out of office.
Mr. Bane may be a nice person, but it’s time for him to retire as Sheriff and enjoy the rest of his life with his lovely wife. I thank him for his time in the Harford County Sheriff’s Office. I also wish Mr. Bane happiness and prosperity during his retirement. It’s time for Mr. Bane to leave the reins for Mr. Gahler to lead the Harford County Sheriff’s Office into the future and to protect our citizens with distinction.
The citizens of this great County, including the Deputies, and Correctional Deputies will not be disappointed with Mr. Gahler as Sheriff. Mr. Gahler’s leadership skills and his dedication to every citizen and community in Harford County is beyond reproach. I urge every citizen of Harford County, Democrat, Independent, and Republican to get out and vote for Mr. Gahler and to remove all anti-gun Democrat proponents out of office. We need to take Harford County and the State of Maryland back to the individuals and return their rights.
It is my honor to endorse Mr. Jeff Gahler as the next Sheriff of Harford County this November.
Respectfully yours,
Arthur Grieshaber, Police Officer (Retired)
It was my hope that Sheriff Bane would leave gracefully and enjoy retirement but no chance of that. He is going to go down swinging. The employees of the agency and the citizens of Harford County will be much better served when Mr. Gahler wins the November election. Thank you for eloquently and non-combatively supporting Jeff Gahler for Sheriff.
I’m so afraid….
hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa this is a joke right?
As someone not wedded to a particular party or ideology, I have not initial presumption about who or who I will not vote for in November. I must say, however, that a non-factual, conspiratorial-oriented rant like that from Mr. Grieshaber is the sort of diatribe that leads me to lean in favor of Sheriff Bane.
Good letter and right on the money! Gahler for Sheriff!
On a side note…watching a new episode of “Drugs, Inc” on National Geographic Channel (NATGEO). Funny thing the episode is on the explosion of Heroin in Baltimore and its far reaching grasp outside into the counties. Notable areas in the episode was the Harford County Sheriffs doing their jobs in Kingsville and Bel Air! Glad they are showing the drug game is not just slums but a large hidden problem in the “Burbs”…. catch the episode on demand. Its aired this evening. Kudos to HCSO… get them where they live and the mules bringing it through the county!
So I get its political season, but as a gunowner myself and proud veteran, let me say for the record when I filed for my Class III the Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) signed off on my paperwork after review of my records as an law abiding citizen. I dropped it off with his great secretary and had it back in my hand in a few days.
Now some Sheriffs in other counties are not signing off and instead deferring them to the Maryland State Police, as a matter of fact I think it wasn’t that long ago Baltimore County was refusing to sign them and saying go to MSP. Of coure as you know MSP was reviewed by the state and groups who raised the flag about long wait times.
So for the record, I don’t have experience with the Sheriff being anti-gun, but instead the opposite. Take it for whats its worth and no I don’t have any signs in my yard! Just sick of the blog crybabies running to dagger instead of debating. Why doesn’t the county have a debate where these candidates can speak on the issues. Stop using Dagger like damn myspace about who ate who’s sandwich allow the candidates to answer the facts or untruths to their constituents.
Veteran
GunOwner
Proud American
I’m sure Mr. Gahler would be happy to debate Sheriff Bane. Of course it takes two to tango.
As I understand it both candidates will be addressing the Deputies Union tomorrow night, Aug 28. Don’t know if the format will be one like a debate or just addressing the members seeking their support.
So at this meeting can you ask Gahler if he will continue to sign ATF forms for law abiding HARCO citizens or if he will defer them to Maryland State Police? The ones who had complaints statewide for huge delays.
Not only should they ask Mr. Gahler that question, they should ask Sheriff Bane if he will now authorize his own correctional officers to carry for their protection while in uniform. Hopefully, his own Correctional Officers are also law abiding citizens.
The Correctional Deputies use to carry firearms. When did Bane stop them from carrying? I guess since he doesn’t carry a gun most of the time, he believes that nobody else should, either. Just plain foolish!
I think it is a Lincoln Douglas style debate.
Lincoln-Douglas? Cross-examination would be much more entertaining.
I agree, Sheriff Bane has never had a problem signing ATF paperwork for me.
Congrats Bel Air and Harford County!!! The drug problem in this county made it to the big time!!! Nat Geo Channel, Drugs Inc.
Guess what? They weren’t down on the 40 corridor. They were following drugs up route 1 from Baltimore picked up by middle class white kids to be sold to their white kid middle class friends in the central and northern part of the county.
What documentary were you watching? The heroin epidemic in Baltimore is not new nor, did it explode. It just resurfaced due to an uptick in interest. There has been a heroin epidemic in Baltimore since, the 40’s. It was one of the 1st cities to be plagued with heroin since, early importation. Think geographically. In fact, Baltimore has and has had for sometime per capita one of if not the highest number of intravenous drug users with heroin being the most intravenous illegal drug used. You need to check your history.
AND,….for your information the uptick in heroin use is directly due to the increase prescription of opiates and opioids. “Oxycodone”, etc…. When the scripts run out the prescription users go down to the city and buy heroin. That’s how you get your migration of the drug to the suburbs. It is all opium based.
Furthermore, you fools need to stop blaming President Obama. This is all due to President George W. Bush’s enactment of legislation increasing the medical drug benefit. Part of that was increasing what pharmaceutical manufacturers were allowed to create and produce. That’s what made the opioids available in the first place. Many of the same suburbanites who were prescribed opioids became addicted and their kids got into the medicine cabinet. It was predicted at the time the law was enacted that an illegal suburban heroin epidemic would be the fallout. That is why you have a heroin epidemic in the suburbs. Your ignorance of how the problem developed is only outdone by your ignorance of how to eradicate it!
I fail to see why this policy makes the public less safe. I don’t feel a Correctional Officer needs a carry permit, unless he is being threatened. Even then you have to wonder why the CO is being threatened? Must have done something to piss someone off or been involved in something the CO shouldn’t have to start. Nothing about this policy makes the public less safe or contributes to the disarming the citizens of Harford County. Just more Republicunt propaganda. However, I do not endorse Bane or any other Law Enforcement Officer in Harford County. Police in Harford County are dishonest and just plain corrupt. If for some reason people out there think that Gahler will make a change to the corruption and the dishonesty of the Police then they are wrong. You have to have honest deputies from the start and that’s just not gonna happen in Hazzard County.
@soulcrusher;
what happen, a CO piss you off when you were there? The cops too? What a stupid post, but thats your right, one you must have followed right?
No, I have nothing against the average Correctional Officers at HCDC, they were doing their jobs. I do however have a problem with some of the administration as I was confined for 10 days in a one person isolation cell, that was housing 2 inmates. That’s right, I lived on the cold, urine soaked floor for 10 days, with another person. Whenever my cellmate had to urinate, urine was splashed on the floor next to my head. This was torture by any means you look at it. A “boat”, the liner you are supposed to get when you’re housed on the floor, would not even fit in the cell. For 10 days, my head was less than a foot away from the toilet and my feet were jumbled under the other guys bed. Now, you tell me, do I have a problem for being pissed off? I don’t think so……………….
Oh yeah, why is it that the Correctional Officers at HCDC are handing out the phone number for Freedom Fighters Bail Bonds, right in the booking area! That’s a conflict of interest, isn’t it. I specifically heard from one CO that he gets $50 for every person he refers and they actually bail out. WTF!
Another thing, why are officers at HCDC posting Freedom Fighters Bail Bonds ads and paraphernalia on the Inmate Bulletin Boards in the DSUs. That’s another conflict, right……..
Why is it that HCDC covered up a MIRSA and/or Staph outbreak in the “R” dorm while I was there. One of the inmates actually had his girlfriend contact a news reporter about the problem and the Administrative response was, “there are no reported incidents in the “R” dorm”. Just another lie by the wonderful administrators at HCDC. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE HARFORD COUNTY SHERFIFF’S DEPARTMENT THAT IS CAPABLE OF TELLING THE TRUTH! No, there isn’t……….
Correctional Officer are given the same training as a Law Enforcement Officer. Criminals do not stop and ask a person in uniform if the are Corrections or Law Enforcement. Just like street cops who only deal with a prisoner for a few hours, Correctional Officers deal with them eight hours a day and The do get threats on their lives. If you are in uniform and in the public you should be armed. This is yet another poor decision made by this administration that follows the in line with the far left liberal play book.
Marc they are not given the same training. Law Enforcement academy is 6 months, corrections I believe is 2 months? I personally don’t think that they should have the same or similar uniform or be able to carry. This is not because I don’t have respect for them because I do respect the job they do.
Any firearms qualified Correctional Officer receives the same training to become qualified to use an agency weapon that the LE Deputies receive. They also attend the required annual firearms training just as the LE Deputies. It is a Maryland State requirement.
My dog could pass that training my question is do they get specialized training in the shoot house? Do they receive specialized training on dealing with domestic situations, school situations, active shooter…etc NO they do not and they should not.
Mark do you have the statistics on criminals approaching Harford county correction officers vs armed Deputies in public?
Just one statistic, an ex inmate and a bunch of his drunk red necks paid my house a visit one night while I was at work and shot my house up. 1989 was the year. Never had any dealings with him while in jail and never had any while I worked the street. Just some jerk who thought it would be cool to shoot up my house. So yes the should be armed at all times.
So how would arming a CO in uniform going to work have changed that scenario?
Forget the situation, the threat is there. It could have been a house or while out shopping with your family. The point is they should be armed in order to protect themselves from the criminals they baby sit at the Detention Center. I threat does not have to be made for an inmate or others to want to hurt one of the Correctional Officers. I guess, there is no perfect situation for you right. You will always have another question to add. The threat is real to both Law Enforcement and Correctional Officers, they should be armed. Simple.
Well of course I will have another question, it’s my name. So you were armed, but not at home and they still shot your house up and you use the scenario as a reason CO’s should be armed too, then tell us to forget the situation.
Do you enjoy making my head hurt with your nonsense?
Mr. Grieshaber,
For clarity, which department did you retire from?
Hey gun nuts, whether you realize it or not, there are (and have been) many types of firearms and ammo that have been restricted to the general public for longer than any of your lifetimes. So stop quoting the 2nd Ammendment as your flipping gospel, or as though it is the supreme being. It is an ammendement, subject to interpretation and modification. Get over it!
Actually before 1986, not a single firearm design was banned federally, it was solely a matter of doing the paperwork and paying the taxes.
1986 Congress restricted civilians from owning new machine guns
1989 saw an importation ban on scary-looking rifles (which only applies to guns with a certain number of foreign-made parts, easily rectified by making parts such as triggers, hammers, and buttstocks in the US)
1994 passed a domestic ban on production of scary-looking rifles (which then expired in 2004)
Today MD is one of the very few states that restricts carrying for self defense, requires a waiting period when you already own a gun, requires handgun buyers be fingerprinted, limits magazine capacity, and bans scary-looking rifles. Except for MD, NJ, NY, CA, CT, HI and a state or two I might’ve missed, you can buy anything you want except a post-’86 machine gun.
Not everyone on Dagger is less than 28 years old.
What a well written and lucid response for a “gun nut”. Thanks.
The “right” of a person to protect his Life, Liberty, and Property is one that no man can deny. You may support Tyranny and claim my life is somehow the states to do as they please with but the truth is Humans were born to be free and there are many that will resist Tyranny by any means necessary. Good day Mr. Shed…
Your comments seem to be quite bizarre regarding the CO’s. Prisoners views on so called CO’s “pissing them off” are not be granted much wright as they have chosen to violate the laws of this land if convicted, or there seems to be enough probable cause to believe they have if awaiting trial. In general, most CO’s are top notch officers, sure they’re a few bad ones, but if they do their job and follow procedures, they are ok in most people’s minds. Just like LE officers, do your job correct, you’re bound to upset someone as well.
Certain CO’s are trained and qualify through the MPCTC for handguns for transport, etc. Perhaps the HCSO policy should state that CO’s are at their own risk stopping at that 7-11 for coffee on the way into work in uniform. On the other hand, they deal with the lower portion of society and should have the right to defend themselves or families outside work. These prisoners and convicts do beat the system sometimes, or pay their debt and return to society just as mean and dirty as before.
CO’s drive directly to the DC without stopping on the way to work or change there… threatened ask for LE assistance in that case..
But after being released from prison, all convicts are rehabilitated & not a risk to society and thus correctional officers’ risk level has dropped to that of an ordinary citizen. They don’t need a handgun carry permit, just like normal people do not need to defend themselves outside their homes. The COs really just need a good seminar discussing defenses against too many hugs from the people they helped get through a bad time in their life.
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Have you seen some of the guards at the jail. Its probably a good thing that they can’t carry. They might even flash their piece in their next 80 proof rap video if they were allowed to carry.
Sheriff Bane disarmed all of the Correctional Deputies about 6 years ago. Even those with Maryland Handgun permits where not allowed to carry a hand gun to and from work in uniform. Our Major who at the time was assistant Warden and had been firearms certified for 25 years was disarmed by Sheriff Bane. The Major would be on duty driving a Agency issued car traveling to and from command staff meetings and Bane and his inner circle decided that the Major could no longer carry a handgun even on Duty. This and many other reasons is why the Correctional Officers are as a group are supporting Jeff Gahler for Sheriff!
Once one gets pass the delusions of persecution of the author, this letter brings up a relevant issue regarding whether or not correctional officers should be allowed to be armed on their way to or from work.
It is too bad the author felt compelled to introduce his personal fears about something that isn’t ever going to happen, such as being disarmed by the federal/state/county government, whichever bogeyman is in style these days.
Being Maryland is so backwards in everything, even the Correctional Deputies/Officers arent exempt.
What? In a majority of states, the Sheriff Office’s deputies all have sworn law enforcement powers regardless if they are “Road” Deputies or “Jail” Deputies.
Hell, I think even New Jersey Correction Officers are sworn law enforcement.
I think what most rabid gun rights people, including the letter writer, fail to realize that is that many Progressives/Democrats/Liberals do not want to disarm others. Law enforcement has a right to carry their weapons and people have a right to protect themselves, their property and their loved ones. What I don’t believe, and many others also believe, is that some random joe should open carry their rifles or their assault weapons into Target, Starbucks, Home Depot, or where they get their lunch just to prove some point. If you need to strap a rifle on your back to buy some lightbulbs or eat a hamburger, there are some other issues that need to be worked out besides the fear the government will take your guns away.
For me, it doesn’t matter who wins this election, just that they do their job on trying to keep the county safe and running an efficient police force.
And what makes Mr Arthur Grieshabe an expert on Gahler, progressives, the second amendment and the safety of the lives of correction officers?
I’m thinking Artie may be over dosing on fox news, someone needs some time away from the remote.
Does Jeff Gahler actually endorse these nutty rants?
Same Bane tactics, just new names.
Why is everything a conspiracy with you Eaton????????
Guards have in the past been allowed a carry permit because if they receive a credible threat to their safety (probably happens daily for some of the guards) that qualifies as a “Good & Substantial” reason to have a carry permit in Marylandistan.
Guards are not “jail cops” or any other sort of police officer. They do not have the same training as an actual police officer and do not have powers of arrest. They are regular folks who work at the jail. If they would wear a regular type of uniform (maybe khakis & a polo shirt) instead of one that allows them to pretend they are actual police officers they wouldn’t have to worry about being shot by a thug who thinks they are a “real” cop.
The second amendment (as all the amendments) exists to protect a God Given right “certain inalienable rights imbued by their creator” etc. etc. It is not granted by the Constitution, the right to self protection exists, period! The constitution was set up to protect that right (and the others)
It is a sad fact that criminals attack folks everywhere! And decent folks ought to have the ability to protect themselves everywhere. The mass shootings that have garnered so much attention lately all occurred in “gun free zones” wonder why?
I think some of you are missing the true problem with our policy. Most of us have our concealed carry permit and most of us are certified to carry an agency issued weapon while working transport or hospital duty. However, our policy makes it impossible to come dressed for work and have a weapon on us because we can’t take the agency guns home and we can’t carry our own. If one of the mentally ill or violent people in here wants to harm us, what better place to look for us than where they know we will be 40-65 hours per week. On a side note, when corrections and law enforcement have shot together at the range we have historically out performed them.
Don’t get cocky CO. Since you went there didn’t an inmate get away from two armed CO’s at UCMC about 5 years ago? Training must not be that great
Were they supposed to shoot him? I guess that training the received worked, you can’t shoot an escaped prisoner for just escaping there Daryl.
Darryl is only interested in creating some wedge issue between the LE and CO Deputies, hoping that it will help his mentor Bane. Sounds like something the head of Warrant Unit would say to keep his overtime slips rolling in if Bane is re-elected.
Uniform issues between the CO’s and Road deputies has been an issue since the DC started its operatoins. Each Sheriff took the stand that it would cause tensions between the DC and “uptown”
And Yes JD is a dirty ot skimming ot stealing excuse of a Deputy. he needs to be stopped as it sets a poor example for the hard working Deputies here.
Screw Maryland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That did happen and actually one of the officers involved in that transport is a range instructor and the fact that he didn’t shoot is a testament to our quality training. To take a shot in low light conditions, unaware of who or what lies in the distance beyond the target, at a man running full speed away from you would be a very foolish move. By the time you draw the weapon and take aim, he would probably be beyond 20yds and moving at a good pace, then if by some miracle you managed to hit him you’d have shot an unarmed man in the back which is always good for PR.
If someone can get 20 yards away from you in the time it takes to draw your weapon you should not have a weapon.
If your training is not to shoot a fleeing prisoner then you have no need of a weapon, you are trained NOT to use it so what is the point of having it?
I’ve always believed that all citizens ought to be able to carry a weapon for protection, your post made me realize that maybe guards shouldn’t be.
Calling a Guard a Guard is NOTHING like calling a cop a pig. They are guards that’s what they do it isn’t meant to be derogatory it is descriptive. The fact that you are so touchy about it lets everyone know that you feel inferior about your career. Much like the garbage man who wants to be called a sanitation engineer, it’s silly and doesn’t fool anyone
In trying to call me an idiot all you did was prove yourself to be one. I said by the time you draw your weapon AND take aim. It is not a good idea to simply draw it and begin firing in the direction of the fleeing inmate. You also have to take into account the surprise factor which would account for the first 3-5 yards as the inmate takes flight. The reason we carry a gun is for the people that would use violence to affect an escape or attempt to harm the prisoner in custody not to shoot fleeing people in the back.
If I submit a endorsement for Jeff Gahler on the dagger, tell you I’m a retired cop, but don’t list any of my credentials, will the endorsement bear any weight?
Probably not
Marc Eaton……I really appreciate you sticking up for the Correctional Deputies.
Correctional Deputy / Officer / Jailor / Bull / Turn Key / Guard / Jail Cop, These terms don’t hurt anymore that Deputies or Police Officers being called Pigs. The Deputies working at the HCDC are Correctional Professionals. They have the exact same hiring requirements, except for the written test, which is different. Their Academy is shorter, yet they are all held to the same standards as the LEO’s.
I have no problem being in uniform and in the public without a gun. I have been encouraged to get a permit, but even if I had one, I’m not sure I would carry it. The big factor that some of you are missing is the Correctional Deputies exposure to gang members, the criminally insane, and every type of sexual predator. When a LEO brings a 10-95 to the IPC, they get a 15 minute trip to the jail, staring at the back of your head. When they are committed, they have 24/7 to learn everything that they can about the “Correctional Deputy / Officer / Jailor / Bull / Turn Key / Guard / Jail Cop” Maybe a non hater will read this and understand why the “jail guards” should absolutely have the right to wear and carry in and out of uniform, on and off duty.
I don’t want to be a cop. If I wanted to peruse that profession, I would have. I like what I do. What I want is an option to carry a weapon in the fashion that I choose. Most of us live in this county. When Joe Scumbag approaches me and my family while we are out to dinner and they are upset that I didn’t let them call their babby momma, shouldn’t I be able to protect my loved ones? My kids? Examples of the aforementioned happen to us all of the time. Most of my encounters have been OK. People want to tell us they are doing well, I am human, I get it.
If you are a prior inmate and are reading this, we are glad you are doing well. We can see it, you have a job. You make our families uncomfortable. Please stay away.
@ the DSU……stop being mad at the CO’s for standing up for themselves and making an endorsement. We just want a Qualified Warden who can help to get us caught up to the 21st century.
So now everyone is all “CO ARE SAME AS ROAD GUYS?!?” historically the CO’S have been treated like red headed step kids…. it’s amazing how that changes during election time. CO’S have lockers and do not have to wear their gear in nor out of work. They drive personal cars as well. They have ability to blend in far more easily than a marked car or deputy in uniform so it IS different. I’m just still laughing at the fact people are arguing CO’S should be equal in this when they try to suppress them in every other way (pay, retirement, benefits)
COs should not be allowed to carry guns off duty. They are corrections officers not police. Most COs I know are much less competent than police. The job requirements prove that. COs need to be able to control with their words and nonlethals.
You sir…are an idiot