From Ryan Burbey, President of the Harford County Education Association:
All citizens of Harford County should be outraged by the Craig administration’s history of underfunding our schools. The flat funding which County Executive Craig has imposed upon HCPS has resulted in major cuts to transportation, programing and staff. Despite his claims of being a life-long educator, despite Harford County taking in more revenue than ever before, County Executive Craig has continuously shown his misplaced priorities and lack of dedication to our schools by not even providing sufficient funds to maintain the current HCPS programing. I am disappointed that throughout his term in office, the County Executive has shown so little regard for the hardworking HCPS staff, our schools and our students.
Last February, over 500 school employees and community members stood up to fight for our schools. Nearly fifty speakers implored County Executive Craig to increase funding for our schools. He chose to ignore those voices. What was his response? “I could have lowered school funding but I kept it the same.” Clearly, he is out of touch with the needs of our students, teachers and HCPS as a whole. We must continue to fight for our schools. Another flat budget for HCPS in FY 2015 will result in even more dramatic cuts. Last year, HCPS was forced to cut over 100 positions. Cuts to teaching positions result in increased class sizes and reduced opportunities for students.
Mr. Craig has also implied that HCPS should cut hundreds more positions stating, “HCPS has increased its staff by over 650 positions even though school enrollment has declined by over 2,300 students.” Even though the staffing increases, which Mr. Craig has quoted, have been proven false by multiple sources, every Harford County citizen must take heed of his statements. He clearly believes that HCPS currently has too many teachers and too many employees. He has also stated, “The first year I taught I had 42 students in my class. For most of my career of 15 years I had over 30 per class. The number of students in a classroom does not have a negative effect on a good teacher.” Do you want over 30 students in your child’s classroom? Do you think the number of students in a class has no effect on teaching or learning?
If HCPS continues to be so poorly funded, it will likely result in drastic cuts to programing, staffing, transportation and after-school activities. These cuts will result in larger class sizes and fewer opportunities for students. All Harford County citizens must advocate for proper education funding. The quality of our schools is in jeopardy. The quality education which our students currently receive is at risk. The quality of life we all have fought hard to create in Harford County is in danger. Continued cuts and flat funding will result in a continued deterioration of our schools, which will transcend into decreased home values. Without increased funding for our schools, every citizen of Harford County will suffer as our schools are unable to meet the increasing demands of providing a quality, 21st century education.
On Monday November 25th at 6 PM, County Executive Craig will hold a budget hearing at Fallston High School. We need every Harford County Citizen, who values the education provided by Harford County Public Schools, to advocate for our schools. We all must attend. We all must fight to protect public education for our children and to preserve the quality of our schools. By protecting our schools, we protect our investments in our homes, businesses and property. By preserving quality public schools, we preserve the quality of life that we all hold dear. Please join your teachers as we fight to preserve quality public education and a prosperous future for our children.
All citizens of Harford county should be outraged that a devote communist is running the teachers union and pushing brainwashing ideologies on our youth.
I began my teaching career here in Harford County 5 years ago. I float into 3 different classrooms every day. I have 3 different math classes to prepare for, two of which I have never taught before because multiple math sections had to be picked up by our department due to cuts in our staff. My average class size for my 6 math sections is 31 students. I now spend at least 2 more hours a week collecting data for my student learning objectives, which no one seems to think are important. This is on top of the 4 to 5 hours of planning and grading that I do each evening and on the weekends. I currently rent an apartment with no hope of buying any property. The idea of starting a family is out of the question. I have had to get a second job waiting tables on the weekends. I don’t ever expect to get a single salary step as long as the current county executive and county council are in charge. I don’t know how much longer I can continue to teach in this county and actually live the kind of life that I think a teacher should be able to live…you know the extravagant life of owning a townhouse, having a wife and a couple of kids and being able to afford to send them to college. I guess I should have listened to all of those people that said I was crazy for wanting to be a teacher. Or I can hope that a large portion of the public realizes the effects of continuing to underfund this school system and expresses that realization on 11/25 to the county executive. But then I guess the county executive would have to do something about it. Either way, I’ll be there next Monday…I’ll be the one with the sign that says “David Craig is a Dick!”
How much money do you want?
People always say they want raises, but to what end? They just want steps? Or do they want thousands of dollars more per year? Please tell me an exact number “educators” typically want?
I know you’re a math teacher, but you only have yourself to blame since you knew what you were getting into, could read numbers (salary) and could read text (contract) and signed your name and voluntarily took the position you are in to work.
Don’t like it? Find another job, it’s pretty easy dude.
I think I was pretty clear about the kind of life that I think a teacher should be able to have using the compensation that I think they should be provided. You can obviously disagree with my opinion regarding that, but if that is the case, why would anyone want to become a teacher if they can’t expect to afford to own property, raise a family and pay for their children’s college educations? And for those that do decide to become teachers under those circumstances, how can you expect them to perform their duties effectively when their minds are often on their second jobs that they have to go to after school?
You’re right, I can find another job. I’m not asking for your sympathy or to even agree that the school system needs more money. I was just trying to describe the current state of teaching in Harford County Public Schools. If you think that what I have described is what it should be, then you seem to value the education of our students about as much as David Craig does. You’re probably okay with that, too.
Cry us a river.
“You only have yourself to blame”. Could you ever in your wildest dreams imagine that someone’s decision to be a teacher and work with children could result in someone telling them that? Wow.
Funny how this debate is about money, and you use the product (children) as pawns.
I can imagine, it doesnt take 15 years and masters degree to figure out the trend of your potential salary based on history.
In theory, if you are OK with what you find out as far as your potential earnings then good for you. If you need a lot more money, then you need another career.
Tough luck, in the end your job is a 2 week biweekly paystub that doesn’t really give a shit one way or another. Quit, and a replacement will be found in no time.
So let me be sure I understand what you are saying here. If you find yourself in a situation or there are particulars of a situation that you don’t care for, you shouldn’t try to make it better. You should quit. Is that right?
Also, the one part I don’t understand: who is using children as pawns exactly? To my knowledge, in spite of no step increases, the teachers have kept teaching. In fact, not long ago on the Dagger there was an article about how SAT scores have gone up, more kids are taking and passing AP tests, etc. I also saw that there were all kinds of fall sports, musicals, concerts…it doesn’t sound like the teachers are holding the kids back by refusing to work with them in any way. Have you heard of any club, sport, performance, etc. that has had to be cancelled because they couldn’t find a teacher to run it?
Yeah, I can read and the contract I signed said that I would be provided a salary step increase for each of the first 15 years that I taught in Harford County. I know it also says in the contract that the salary scale is contingent upon funding. However, it’s not accurate to say that since the county executive did not provide HCPS the funding it requested to pay the appropriate salary steps that teachers don’t have to be paid them. The language in the contract the stipulates the salary scales are contingent on funding is to only be enacted in extreme circumstances. I will admit that the first 2 years that salary scales were frozen in HCPS were due to extreme circumstances…the housing/mortgage crisis. But the next 2 out of 3 years that salary scales have been frozen has been nothing more than political theatre. When I moved here seven years ago and began my teaching career it never occurred to me that I would earn nearly $20,000 less than what the salary scale in the contract I signed said I would. And that’s not because I’m an idiot or that I can’t read. It’s because in order to have predicted that I would have made so much less today, I would have had to have seen evidence that HCPS AND THE HARFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT does not honor their salary schedules, even in difficult financial times. Well, until the last 5 years, there has been no evidence of that. Using your logic, as long as the county executive doesn’t provide the funds for salary steps for whatever reason he/she chooses, teachers would never have to be given a salary step. That doesn’t sound to me like the kind of work environment that anyone would be likely to sign up for.
HCPS Teacher,
Sorry but you actually are wrong. If the steps were legally required and not being paid then the HCEA is legally obligated as your representative to go to binding arbitration to get the money for you, and if that fails, go to court. Otherwise they can and should be charged with malfeasance and removed from office. If what you said were true – and it isn’t – then why isn’t HCEA filing suit?
Please ask Mr. Burbey when the HCEA, which he leads, will be taking legal action to get you the money you feel you deserve by your reading of the contract. Then let us all know what he says.
LOL, What…it is pretty clear from your statement that you haven’t got a clue what our teachers have gone through the last few years. Working more hours to employ bureaucratic directed measures that don’t help students learn. The ability to teach is gone. All the while, they are making less in terms of purchasing power than they were five years ago. This is because they are not getting the increases they agreed to. It is poor management by people making decisions who are out of touch with the every day on do many levels.
bsizz, What does HCEA and Mr. Burbey intend to do about it? Please be specific.
The far left will NEVER tell you how much, they will NEVER tell you what specifically they want the money for. They will NEVER tell you what the cost is of what they NEVER tell you they want it for. They just want it all. After all, they can do it better then you. Its NEVER enough. Clowns the left of me, Jokers to the right. Here we are, stuck in the middle with you.
From what I’ve read and heard, the teachers would like to have their step increases. I think they have been pretty clear about it.
Exactly how much do they want to settle the issue?
Mr Burbey has previously stated he wants all the missing ones paid, including retroactive compensation. For 3,000 teachers, at four missed steps (at $1500 each, and assumed for the four latest years, as this is just a rough estimate), that sum comes to $45,000,000, plus the additional annual payroll of $18,000,000.
When the entire HCPS budget is $400 million, there just isn’t $18 million, much less $63 million, to be found. At some point, liabilities become so large they are unpayable and must be written off. The missing steps have reached that stage.
Keep in mind though, every teacher doesn’t get a step increase. Teachers who have already reached step 15 would not get one.
It’s good to know that teacher salaries are liabilities that can just be written off. I mean, the county couldn’t just write off something like…heating and electric bills for all the school buildings. Then again, no utility company would tolerate someone falling four years behind in paying their bills and still provide the same level of service they way teachers do. So, I guess we can be grateful that even though we found a way to save millions upon millions of dollars, it hasn’t cost the taxpayer a cent in terms of service for their dollar (unless you count the pay-for-play fee that some have to pay, which they are also bitching about).
Part of what Kharn says rings true…teachers need to forget about the missed steps, as hard as that may be. They aren’t coming back. However I do feel that future steps should be honored so that we don’t fall even further behind surrounding counties.
Your sign only proves one thing. You should not be anywhere near our children.
Agreed, but neither should a large amount of the people in powerful positions in HCPS.
They are only following the progressive model set fourth by the Maryland Legislature, the Governor and the President. Poor little Sheeple
Ever notice that the people are only sheep when they are not doing what you want them to do?
At least you admit to being a sheep, sorry, teacher.
From the way he said it, I don’t think he actually made the sign yet. I’m putting my money on “he won’t”, and that he was just venting his frustration (a rare and unusual act for a poster on The Dagger). I say let him keep teaching. At least until he goes through with said sign making and waving.
Nobody forced you to be a teacher. Live within your means, if you dont like your job change professions. Thats what my teachers taught me back in the day when they were worth a dam. Start living within your means like the real world
It’s not the teachers who are pushing Common Core; that is a mandate from high above. Teacher’s rarely have say in all these mandates. They are told what to teach, when to teach it, and how to teach it. Then when the public hates the mandates or the mandates fail miserably, the public blames the teachers, while the real powers are off developing new mandates.
Apologies. I posted using my phone and somehow posted twice: once here and once below where it was meant to be placed. I apologize for any confusion this may cause.
I dont see them saying anything against it. Sorry, stop blaming Bush.
where did anyone blame Bush?
Which dam were your teachers worth? Because it’s pretty damn obvious that they weren’t worth a damn. Any teacher worth a damn would have taught you how to put an apostrophe in your conjunctions, when to use a semicolon instead of a comma, and to put some type of punctuation at the end of a sentence. Oh…and also, the difference between “dam” and “damn”.
I read this and laughed out loud! How ironic that someone who touts the quality of his teachers over today’s teachers does so while including poor punctuation and wrong word usage! I’m not usually one to rip on people for their grammatical errors on forums such as this, but if you are going to claim an element of educational superiority, it probably is a good idea to make sure you cross your t’s and dot your I’s (or apostrophe your conjunctions, as you put it). The irony of your nickname was also not lost on me!
So if any Harford County teachers need an example of why you may not be supported, Mr. 5 year Math teacher is a good example. He wants to wave a sign saying someone is a “dick.”
Such quality in our educators.
And they are the ones that are teaching our children. Sounds like a low life smug arrogant smart ass to me.
So…one HCPS teacher’s comment on an anonymous thread on an online local news website is a representation of the quality of the 3000+ other HCPS teachers?
No the union president that was elected by them represents the quality of the 3000 other HCPS teachers
So…members of a union elected someone who will argue for increased salaries, better benefits, and better working conditions. Astounding. What’s next? People electing political candidates who they believe will represent their interests?
There is a point at which effective representation breaks down and becomes a Quixotesque obession.
Right. So if you agree with the viewpoint or if it’s coming to fruition will be beneficial to you, that’s effective representation. If you don’t or it won’t, that’s a Quixotesque obsession.
You know, you had my sympathy right up until you decided to call Mr. Craig a vulgar name. It’s unfortunate that your own education didn’t include lessons on civility in public discourse.
You don’t have the fortitude to make the sign and show it. Go ahead. Do it. And good bye to you.
If you dont like it quit your job. There are piles of applications from people probably more qualified that will do the job for the same money.
Rest assured, your name would not be amongst the qualified applicants.
How much money does the teachers union take from you every year?
How much does your union donate to democratic candidates every year?
If you are broke, start with them.
By the way – you get a pension plan jackass………. MOST OF US PAYING YOUR SALARY DON’T!
I know what a pension plan is, and I know what a jackass is, but what in the world is a pension plan jackass?
Or are you just not down with the whole comma thing?
For your information, teachers put 7% per pay into their pensions.
yes you get matching 401 K funds!
If enrollment is down in HCPS, the budget should not stay the same but be reduced.
The problem isn’t the teachers but those like Burey who think it’s ok to waste taxpayers hard earned money in this down economy. Shame on you Ryan.
Your comments reflect your lack of understanding of education funding laws in our state!
Cdev anything out of your keyboard reflects your lack of understanding for anything remotely logical. Go back to the progressive peanut gallery and please come up with something that is actual progress
No doubt, because paying more for less only makes sense to those in charge of the public school system.
Please look up MOE!
Look up how the state and feds have decreased their contributions.
wouldn’t the limited govt. stance be that local govt. should make decisions about local schools and pay for them too? Or do you want local govt. to make the decisions but someone else to foot the bill?
I’d love for Harford County to be split into multiple school boards, just like PA. Give each high school (and the feeder schools) its own district, let them enact individual school taxes, and fight it out block-by-block. If Havre de Grace wants a new high school, then Havre de Grace should pay for it, while if Fallston is happy with their facilities and want to reward tearchers they’re welcome to do so, but if Aberdeen wants taxes decreased and pay cut, that is their choice.
What’s a tearcher?
Burbey –
Tell the truth you don’t want more money for schools, you want more money for teacher salaries.
You have no interest in improving educational outcomes and fixing inefficient use of the massive HCPS budget.
You live in a fantasyland where you won’t even consider that taxpayers have lost jobs and had salary reductions but are still required to pay an increasing tax burden.
Get your head out of your behind.
Right on! We live in one of the 50 wealthiest counties in the US and we need to keep it that way by lowering local taxes. Our schools are only ranked 9th in state by student achievement. Isn’t Maryland ranked 1st in the country? County funding per student is 19th out of 24 counties in MD. Until Harford County student achievement is ranked #1 in the state, I say we cut funding even more. And 30 kids in a class? Ridiculous! Talk to me when there’s 40. I don’t even have kids in the schools here. Why should I have to pay taxes for these punks to go to school? My kids all went to private school and I didn’t get any of those taxes back. I think we should just shut down the public schools and turn everything over to private schools. If my property taxes get above $15,000 for this year I might have to move.
It is never enought money for the children. Its the peoples money not yours. Commisar Burbey is a proud revolutionary. Your children do not belong to you. They belong to all of the people.
Stop pushing common core on the youth and I will personally give you a raise
It’s not the teachers who are pushing Common Core; that is a mandate from high above. Teacher’s rarely have say in all these mandates. They are told what to teach, when to teach it, and how to teach it. Then when the public hates the mandates or the mandates fail miserably, the public blames the teachers, while the real powers are off developing new mandates.
I have not heard or read about a teacher in the area saying anything against it. Perhaps if they do exist they should write a letter to the dagger.
Please add –
Stop indoctrinating our kids with your progressive leftist ideology and I will give you a raise.
Ok, I have to confess. I’ve been a teacher for 24 years, and I have absolutely no idea what “progressive leftist ideology” means. If I’ve been indoctrinating kids with it for almost a quarter century, I would sure like to at least know what it is!
Well…that kind of stands to reason, doesn’t it? Burbey is not the superintendent or a school board member. It’s really not his job or responsibility to fix the HCPS budget or improve educational outcomes. If you want to be pissed because you think the budget is bloated and wasteful or because you think educational outcomes are askew…cool! But why not get pissed at the teams of people who are getting paid boatloads of dough to manage those things? What’s the sense of getting pissed at someone for not doing a job that isn’t theirs? As far as him asking for money for the teachers…I don’t think he made any attempt to hide that fact. And why would he? He’s a union president! That’s what union presidents do: they try to improve the salaries, benefits, and working conditions of the people who elected them. So you’re pissed because the guy is doing his job and because he is not doing what isn’t his job.
Teacher’s shouldn’t get a raise because there are taxpayers out of work? Ok, sure. I guess the bad news for teachers is that the unemployment rate is never zero, so I guess under your system they would be permanently out of luck in the raise department!
And people wonder why teachers formed a union in the first place!
So, teachers educate our students to not “bully,” then the teachers “bully” Harford County to get more raises? Oh, it’s not the “same” huh? Only when you say it’s not the same, amirightbaoutthatone?
So if a student got off the bus, and started waving a sign that said “*Insert name of a kid* is a DICK” there would be no problems with that? Hypocrites.
Go ahead, thumb me down, bullies!!!
God bless the people. I am so blessed to work as a teacher. I think that I should give back every single dollar bill I’ve earned. The $45,000 I make is way too much money, the rest of you teachers are just being selfish so get over yourself. It is our duty to give every last cent we have back to the community without expecting anything in return. After federal and state taxes, we still have $30,000 left. Geez. When we use that $30,000 to pay our $5000 property tax bill we still have $25,000 to live on. After we pay for gas, food, mortgage and utilities, we should band together to buy Christmas gifts for the students. We have it so much better than the community at their expense. Rich is awesome.
If you have a $5000 property tax bill, you live in a much more expensive home than I do. How could you afford such an expensive home on teacher’s pay. I call BS on your whole post.
Rich Teacher,
According to the United States Census Bureau, 2011 per capita income in Harford County was just over $36,000. You’re $45,000 salary is well above that level. In addition, 2011 Median household income was just over $79,000. The majority of households nowadays have two incomes – both husband and wife have to work to pay the bills. Your $45,000 salary is more than half that amount.
Have teachers done without raises for the last five years? Yes, they have. Have other county employees? Yes, they have too. However we don’t see posts from other county employees every other day complaining about the lack of funding for raises.
I would love to have a raise (It’s been five years for me too!), but at this point, I’m thankful that I have a job – with good medical and dental benefits as well as a generous amount of vacation time and sick leave.
Attacking teachers for wanting to earn a living wage is insane. Feeding, caring for, and educating children should be one of the main priorities of our federal, state and local governments. Part of educating young people is being able to attract good candidates to teach them.
My main issue with Mr. Burbey is not the never ending demands for more tax dollars, it is his refusal to demand less for the state and fed governments to maintain a larger share of or tax dollars locally. He insists that increasing taxes is the only way to provide the salaries he thinks teachers are entitled to. This entitlement to the private citizens income, when we are already paying record taxes with the smallest percentage of Americans in the work force is dangerous and irresponsible.
thats because he loves his manifesto. All he wants to do is take your hard earned money. After all he can spend it more wisely then you.
NO you silly Progressive. Feeding, caring for, and educating children is the responsibility of the PARENTS not the government. We know you want your nanny state so very badly. We realize that many such as your self are simply unable to care for yourselves and really need us to do it for you. Please keep pushing for that great Communist revolution that looks so great on paper. Because then, when you are the first to be purged by the firing squad, when can finally rid ourselves of those who refuse to to help themselves. You are what Karl Marx refereed to so very often as “The useful idiots”
Tongue in cheek I’m sure but frightening how quickly so many fellow citizens “thumbed up” the nanny state without a second thought.
I ultimately lose all respect for someone once they, in a debate, call the opposition ‘communist’.
What debate? Welcome to the internet bro, lolz, I just farted.
I am not a teacher, nor would i want to be in this day and age. I applaud anyone who can help our children learn, especially with some of the parents they have to deal with!! Teachers arent paid enough and never have been. $5000 property tax is about avg dude, i pay $3000 and live in a craphole!!! I’d hate for some of you to be educating my kids!!
Bs, what? You must not have many teachers in your social circle or driven through many school parking lots lately. Our driveways and school lots are lined with shiny new Bmw, Audi, Mercedes and Volvo cars. We live much larger than the average citizen. Like I said, we are getting rich off the tax payers buck and can afford to pay our city and county property tax bills totaling $5000 with ease. Just because we have master’s degrees doesn’t mean we should get paid any better than any other professional with a master’s degree. Our job is rich with love and respect so we shouldn’t also be fortunate to reap a financial reward as well. In fact, we should all encourage or significant others-who work in other fields-to resign and teach also. Amen to the people … So glad they make huge sacrifices to line our pockets. Out of respect for them, and their contributions to our wealth, we should stop driving luxury cars and drinking fine wine and giving back as much as we can. No wonder no one takes us seriously since we accept hand-outs, but refuse to give a hand-up.
wow please run for something.
@Math Teacher. What should I run for?
Board of Ed? Start somewhere local.
If you are still an active HCPS employee you can not be on the BOE.
The vast majority of people in this county are too ignorant to care that the school system has been run into the ground. Just because someone has a job doesn’t mean they should be treated with contempt. Alexander Hamilton was right.
Alexander Hamilton was a power hungry moron who loved big government. He brought us the federal reserve known then as the bank of the united states. He was the first to put forth big government that intrudes into the lives of american citizens. Unfortunately he could not be stopped and what we have in the federal government today is all thanks to him.
Other historians disagree with you
Leader: Alexander Hamilton
Favored:
• Rule by the wealthy class
• Strong federal government
• Emphasis on manufacturing
• Loose interpretation of the Constitution
http://mrkash.com/activities/hamiltonjefferson.html
Although both men had been active in the Revolutionary effort and in the founding of the United States, Jefferson and Hamilton did not work together until Washington appointed Jefferson the first secretary of State and Hamilton the first secretary of the Treasury. From the beginning, the two men harbored opposing visions of the nation’s path. Jefferson believed that America’s success lay in its agrarian tradition. Hamilton’s economic plan hinged on the promotion of manufactures and commerce. While Hamilton distrusted popular will and believed that the federal government should wield considerable power in order steer a successful course, Jefferson placed his trust in the people as governors. Perhaps because of their differences of opinion, Washington made these men his closest advisors.
Hamilton’s economic plan for the nation included establishing a national bank like that in England to maintain public credit; consolidating the states’ debts under the federal government; and enacting protective tariffs and government subsidies to encourage American manufactures. All of these measures strengthened the federal government’s power at the expense of the states. Jefferson and his political allies opposed these reforms. Francophile Jefferson feared that the Bank of the United States represented too much English influence, and he argued that the Constitution did not give Congress the power to establish a bank. He did not believe that promoting manufactures was as important as supporting the already-established agrarian base. Jefferson deemed “those who labour in the earth” the “chosen people of God . . . whose breasts he has made his peculiar deposit for substantial and genuine virtue.” He advised his countrymen to “let our work-shops remain in Europe.”
http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/24094
How was what I said different from what you posted? I said Hamilton favored big government (federal) and established the Bank of the united states. His policies put us on a path to an overbearing federal government. Exactly what you posted.
How was what I said different from what you posted? I said Hamilton favored big government (federal) and established the Bank of the united states. His policies put us on a path to an overbearing federal government. Exactly what you posted. or were you responding to the original poster?
Aaron Burr stopped him pretty well.
This is what happens when politicians are continuously involved. Starts from the Feds on down (trickle down effect.) Politician’s are ALWAYS dictating on what and where “$” needs to be spent, when and the taxpayers will ALWAYS be available for funds needed. TOO much government. What happened and what was wrong with the “basic’s?” The Feds and State have dictated so much compliance in MANY area’s that the “local’s” are taxed to death and now tomorrow’s future are being sacrificed for political gain. So sad.
This is not an easy topic, and the heated debate here certainly supports that notion. Should educators earn a living wage? Of course. Is it true that the amount of money spent on education doesn’t necessarily correlate to educational outcomes? Yes. Educators are going to educate, regardless of their ability to derive income from the job. Look at Salman Khan over at Khan Academy. Frankly, as bad as the consequences may be, i hope educational institutions experience a vast overhaul and require a lot less teachers and a lot less physical and financial resources. Does that mean less teachers on the payroll? Let’s hope. However if we’re educating more people with less time and energy expended, all the better. More teachers doesn’t mean better educational outcomes. This whole political and economic system needs an overhaul and restructuring, but that’s another topic. We can’t continue to follow this trend of increasing productivity with stagnating wages for the majority of people forever. Call me a communist or whatever you’d like, but we need to start getting creative and opening our minds to new means of organizing production and distributing wealth.
Teachers have a very nice salary, health benefits, pensions and every major holiday and summers off.
I’d say that’s a great living wage.
Mr. Pilkington has a very valid point $45,000 is a very nice salary, and I can attest to the very cushy lifestyle this salary provides.
Rich Teacher
You’re too kind. It’s great you agree that for 10 months a year teachers make a nice salary, have great benefits, an enviable pension and every major holiday off.
It’s surprising that as a teacher you are so willing to see how good teachers have it. Congratulations.
Mr. Pilkington, may I inquire about your profession and annual
salary? Surely is pales compared to my $45,000 salary.
I think Rich Teacher was being sarcastic Pilkington
Because – Oh really, I had no idea:)
Pilkington…couldn’t help noticing that you avoided answering Rich Teacher’s question about your profession and salary.
Every Major Holiday?
Columbus Day
Vetern’s Day
Practically no one abides by those two holidays anymore, and HCPS gives off several religious holidays instead.
Than the poster should have clarified those terms!!
County offices and Banks were closed on Veterans Day. Saying no one abides by those holidays anymore is not true, HCPS is selective about what it chooses to recognize. Marching to the beat of a different drum as usual.
Yes, you are talking like a true Totskyite
Spending less money on education and overhauling the system is not a solution, nor is penalizing contributing members of society. Teacher salaries are not hindering growth or draining taxpayers. What is draining the system, however, is the vast social programs that are intended to reduce economic disparities. It’s a continuum of thievery by non-contributing members of society. Welfare recipients, sadly, make more than beginning teachers.
Yes it is the bourgeoisie (Middle Class) is the root of all oppression in America. Commissar Burbey is correct. Our constant attack on middle class, sorry bourgeoisie will eventually bring out a glorious revolution. Comrades O’Malley, Mikulski, Hoyer, and Pelosi are pushing us FORWARD towards Utopia.
Census data can not be used in isolation to draw conclusions about personal wealth. If/when you consider the average salary at around $36,000, you must take into account that 69.1% have only acquired a high school diploma.
In 2011 Harford County was ranked as the 42nd wealthiest county in
the USA.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-?srv/special/local/highest-?income-?counties/
Harford County ranks 7th in per capita income, 8th in median household income and 7th in total personal income.
http://www.choosemaryland.org/factsstats/Pages/Income.aspx
Sorry broken link. n 2011 Harford County was ranked as the 42nd wealthiest county in the USA. This one works.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/highest-income-counties/
And what is that supposed to imply If the county only has 1 child in the public school system the money spent on that single childs education should be the same ranking?
Burbey go home… you are drunk.
Yes, that is why we must take the wealth
@sleep goat. If your tired of hearing the same complaint, different day … Might I suggest:
1. Support the teachers cause so they get a raise and have nothing to complain about
2. Don’t bother reading about the protest
Uh…. pardon me, Dial Change; My comment is way at the bottom. Is your internet broke? How can you tell me suggestions, when you fail the basic task of replying to the correct post? Lemme’ guess, shift the blame of incompetence to the “Smart phone,” Is that so?
YOUR reading comprehension skills lacking a little? Maybe a remedial HCPS 9th grade English class can help you out, starting with “you’re,” and “your.” I never said I was tired, it was a rhetorical question. Hopefully your failed reply is a trolling attempt.
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Really not my place to comment BUT knowing several teachers, they went in this weekend on there day off and set there classroom up for American education week, they do there own curriculum over the weekend or during there kids sporting events. Teachers, Firefighters, and Police should be at the forefront of our mind it just doesn’t happen. I appreciate what each teacher did this week to prepare for American education week and have the utmost respect for each and every one of you. To Burbey or whoever fights for the men and women that teach the kids of this county, enough is enough treat them fairly and give them what they deserve, DON’T forget where you came from. To all the teachers hang in there.
Aaron Tomarchio, Craig’s COS makes in excess of $100k. What’s wrong with this picture?
Well, maybe Aaron negotiates his own salary and doesn;t let HCEA do it for him.
and if the County Executive could come up with an extra $1200 for his salary, he would be smart enough to take it,
One manages a classroom of 30 students.
The other manages the political, PR, election, fundraising, negotiating and outreach efforts of the executive for a county with a budget of over $800 million.
I think the pay is justified.
What about the other 4 COS? David Craig’s small gov’t shtick doesn’t really play well when he creates a budget of 3/4 of a billion…
What’s the old saying, “ignorance is bliss” and before anyone assumes, no I’m not a teacher. However, for those who feel our teachers get what they ask for and don’t deserve a raise, then I encourage you to volunteer in a classroom for one day, and trust me you will change your tune. Teachers don’t work a 9-5 job, many days start at 6/7am and don’t end until late in the evening once papers are graded and lesson plans are written. Teachers have to teach to a wide variety of students, students with learning challenges and behavioral outburst, with very little parental support. Years ago when many of us were attending school, students were placed in classrooms with other students with similar situations, but now the children are mainstreamed and the teachers have to adjust their lessons to each individual child. How would those of you who think teacher complaints are ridiculous, feel if you went for seven years without a raise, or be given a task of coming up with a presentation that must be done in 24 hours and ready to present to others by the following day or be told that all your office supplies will now have to be supplied by you and you will not be reimbursed for those items? You would be bitter and furious, mumbling under your breath about how much you dislike your job, boss, etc.. However, until recently teachers never complained, because there was always the hope of it getting better. Meanwhile, our schools are hurting and if our schools are hurting then our children are hurting. These teachers give more than what they should to our students, and the do it because they want to see the children succeed, but it’s hard to keep doing what they are doing with the resources they are given. It’s time for a change!
Teachers have always complained. There just wasn’t local online newspapers 10 years ago.
The complaints are even bigger these days, who wants to teach in such a politically correct, hurt feelings report, crybaby social retardation environment? Hell, 1 student is able to cancel a several hundred student auditorium concert/presentation.
To those teachers on the fence, all I can.say start looking for a new job ASAP. The faster you get out, the happier you will be.
Burbey: “All Citizens of Harford County Should be Outraged by the Craig Administration’s History of Underfunding Our Schools
Kharn: “Many citizens of Harford County are outraged by HCPS’s inability to live within its means and annoyed by HCEA’s continued failures to understand fiscal reality.”
Instead of complaining about teachers asking for raises, you parent should spend that time on teaching your spoil ass kids some respect. Yes parent s it is your responsible to make sure when your child live home in the morning he or she have the respect and the desire to learn and their pants are pull up and not looking like ladies of the night all that starts at home. So stop complaining about teacher salaries because they do much more than teach they listen to you kids problems that you are too busy to listen too, they come in early and stay late to make sure you kids do their homework, in some cases that actual take money out of their pockets and paid for thing you child needs to success in school. Most of you worry more about the Ravens than your child education. In close these are your children, not the teachers.
“Instead of complaining about teachers asking for raises, you parent[s] should spend that time on teaching your spoil[ed] ass kids some respect. Yes[,] parent[]s it is your responsible to make sure when your child [leaves] home in the morning he or she [has] the respect and the desire to learn and their pants are pull[ed] up and not looking like ladies of the night[,] all that starts at home. So stop complaining about teacher salaries because they do much more than teach[,] they listen to you[r] kids[‘] problems that you are too busy to listen [to], they come in early and stay late to make sure you[r] kids do their homework, in some cases [they] actual[ly] take money out of their pockets and paid for thing you child needs to [succeed] in school. Most of you worry more about the Ravens than your child[ren’s] education. In [closing] these are your children, not the teachers[‘.]”
I hope you’re not an HCPS teacher. But in case you are, why not try things like calling home when students are dressed inappropriately? Even better, email a picture so we have some proof, or, best of all, call my cell so I can come talk to them and give them something else to wear (and yes, I will drop everything at work to come and fix my child’s behavior if needed). Parents can’t control what their kids change into once they get on the bus, regardless of how they looked at the breakfast table. Kids will have their friends bring clothes, or they carry extras, make inappropriate combinations, paint on makeup, etc, but parents can’t do anything about it if the kids changes back and washes the make-up off before going home.
Harford county citizens should be mad that non union educators are forced to pay a fee to the “union”
Funny how the same ol’ people who think nothing of the teachers being denied step increases for years, all of a sudden are deeply concerned when those same teachers have to pay a representation fee to the union.
Did HCEA/HCPS agree to such a fee?
No such thing exists in Harford County…
@kharn, no I am not a teacher and if you spend less time trying to correct me and more time teaching you child about not be a little sneak it would be better spend. When I drop off my children at school I see how these kids are dressed as they get out of the car with their parents. It’s you child so stop making excuses and do your job as a parent it is not the school system responsibility to instill respect and morals in your child, period!
Word on the street:
in loco parentis
That term is not applicable to the examples provided!
As a retired Couny Employee with 35 years of service, I heard the same old crying and moaning by the Teachers Union at every Budget Hearing year after year after year while the Harford County General Work Force was happy to get what they got and did their jobs without complaining even though they got only a fraction of the raises the Teachers got over the years as Council President Joanne Parrott documented at one of the Budget Meetings years ago, but the Teachers Union feels that they deserve more than any other Harford County Employees. Mr. Burbey, have you noticed that we are in a recession and have you noticed how may people have lost jobs not to speak of losing their Health Benefits ? I applaud Mr. Craigs fiscal management which has helped everyone keep their jobs and benefits and who better to make these buget decisions than someone with as much experience & knowledge about School Board operations than Mr. Craig. Mr. Burbey, the School Teachers Union should of canned your butt when you tried to hijack the Exec on the bonus payments. There are a lot of good Teachers out there but to the ones that keep crying and using our children as human shields, go get another job and don’t let the door hit you in the ass.
Mr. Burbey,
Some, perhaps many, of the teachers believe that somehow the County and/or the HCPS is in violation of the contract that HCEA negotiated and they ratified. Can you publicly affirm that HCPS is either in violation or not in violation, particularly as regard step increases? I would appreciate a succinct answer, either yes or no. If you believe HCPS is in violation, as some of your members believe, can you explain why HCEA has not gone to binding arbitration or filed a lawsuit to get your members the money that they believe they are legally entitled to get? As an officer of HCEA isn’t it your legal duty to file a suit to protect the interests of your members?
Alex, Don’t hold your breath waiting for an answer from Mr. Burbey. But if anyone wants to know the answer, the answer is that HCPS is not legally required by the terms of the contract to pay the steps unless the County specifically funds them.
Of course, another way that HCPS could fund the steps is by re-arranging their budget and reducing expenditures in other areas. My advice is don’t hold your breath on that either.
What bothers me about Burbey is his blaming of Craig, when he should be blaming O’Malley and the Democratic legislature. But instead, he denies that O’Malley caused a lack of pay increase even though he and the legislature dumped some pension costs on the Counties. All he is doing is playing the Democrat game of dishonesty in Annapolis. I find him to be a poor representative of the many wonderful teachers out there.
Careful there Monster. I had to give you a thumbs up for your comment. Next thing you know, you will be agreeing with me on other issues. 🙂
Mike,
I am a conservative and have always been. I am for reasonable conservatism, and while I have been a Republican for many years, I still vote for whom I think is best. You and I disagree over the adverse postings against Bane on this site. I have no confidence in what Marc Eaton says. I have always found you to be reasonable and I think we could have a reasonable discussion about Bane. I never could do this with Eaton and some of the want-to-be’s because they have other motivations besides good government. Marc is a sick person who has an axe to grind and does it over and over on any post.
Aren’t we still waiting for the money from the State because of the gambling bill that passed ‘for educating our children’? The bill was slammed down out throats then the State announced record gambling revenue. Where is the money? That is another source of rev3enue for teacher raises. C’mon, Burbey, call your friends in Annapolis and tell them to send the check.
Yes, Alex. The HCEA refuses to acknowledge that the Democrats in Annapolis have any blame in their salary issue. Unfortunately, the ordinary teacher is too busy teaching and preparing to teach to take the HCEA to task and make judgements for themselves. As difficult as it is, teachers need to get more active in political affairs.
Yup sure could by eliminating all extra curricular activities, charge course fees for AP classes and electives, charge transportation fees. I see that next year if this apathy continues in this county!
If HCPS can charge for AP, they should charge a fee for CC as well.
Can’t charge a CC fee as it is part of FAPE and mandated by IDEA as well as our state Constitution and related rulings. AP courses are not required to graduate. They are costly. I agree they are good courses and worthwhile but since it is clear so many people want the BOE to trim the budget and eliminate these “ridiculous national curriculums” it would make sense to charge for them. However if it was legal to charge for special-ed services than we should do that.
Then AP are special education services (gifted) and should be exempt as well.
Schools should be funded at a level that allows all programing to be accessible without a fee or charge. Funding our schools and educating our children is part of our collective civic responsibility.
Burbey said; “Schools should be funded at a level that allows all programing to be accessible without a fee or charge.” The sentence is incomplete. It should have gone on to say; …without regard to the tax payers’ ability to pay. Now you have the complete thought pattern of a Marxist. “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.” Which would be a utopia were it not for the fact that half of our socity has decided not to produce.
Arturro,
So well said
Ryan I agree it should be free but the taxpayers in this county seem to be satisified with a county that has to do these things because they sure are not asking the county exec to fund the school system.
Arturro I forgive the large chunck of that half that are senior citizens receiving social security!
yes, and better yet, let me choose the school and the programs I wish to pay for. let the free market provide a better education at a better price. That way when. WE can choose where are money goes. Those such as yourself can be forced to adopt that Change you so adamantly voted for.
Free market or private schools cost more!
Yet people consider them to be worth the investment.
No, it wont cost me a thing if I do not have my children there. What brand of Cool Aid does this CDEV moron drink?
Giant, usually grape flavored!
“Schools should be funded at a level that allows all programing to be accessible without a fee or charge. Funding our schools and educating our children is part of our collective civic responsibility.”
That wouldn’t be a problem if you were willing to cut waste in a bloated self serving system.
Please specifically identify waste of which you speak including a dollar amount.
Please specifically identify the waste of which you speak including a budget line item and dollar amount.
What waste. Be specific. There is even an app you can use to help you find it!
Burbey please specifically identify an actual use for the more money you constantly grovel over.
As I have stated numerous times, the HCEA contract and COMAR(MD Law) have provisions which allow the Board of Education to not honor salary increments should “funding not be available”. This provision is meant to indemnify our institutions against fiscal catastrophe, not be used as club to politically batter our teachers and public servants.
HCEA, and myself, have not “blamed” O’Malley and the MD Legislature because, the state funding is formula driven. It is based on a wealth factor calculation. Harford County’s “wealth” as defined by the formula has increased 60% in the past 7 yrs. Therefore our state contribution has declined. In most recent years, the State of MD has contributed more towards the HCPS budget than Harford County Government. For example, in FY 2013, the state of Maryland contributed 49.2% compared to Harford County’s total contribution of 46.4%.
HCEA is a non-partisan organization. We advocate for public education, teachers and students. We will support candidates, regardless of political party who share our goals of maintaining quality public schools for our kids and a quality workplace for our teachers.
The fact is that Harford County has a history of underfunding its schools.
HCPS Funding Rank in MD by Year
2002-2005 24th out of 24
2006 23rd out of 24
2007 16th out of 24
2008 17th out of 24
2009 18th out of 24
2010 18th out of 24
2011 18th out of 24
2012 17th out of 24
2013 19th out of 24
While other districts are able to expand their programing and recruit the best teacher candidates, HCPS is forced to make cuts to programing and positions. This lack of funding is creating an impending disaster in HCPS.
Burbey, why do you have such a blind faithfulness in the state’s funding formula?
The fact is that Harford County’s wealth (as defined by the formula) decreased from FY13 to FY14, yet our state contribution decreased because our wealth did not decrease as much (proportionally) as most other counties. That is an inherent flaw in the formula, because if one assumes that “wealth” represents a local jurisdiction’s ability to fund education, then as wealth decreases, the state’s contribution should increase. Yet the state ponied up some $3 million less than it did the year before.
Commissar Burbey follows the revolution towards glory and the elimination of the bourgeois. Forward Comrade, Progress!
It is not that I have faith in the formula, although I do think it is reasonable with minor tweeks, it is the law and works in 22 out of 24 counties. Until a new formula is created, we must live with it. It is the responsibility of our local govt. to meet the needs of our schools beyond the state contribution.
If I am not mistake Harford County “wealth” decreased by .1% last year. Over the course of seven years, Harford County is still up over 60%. That is why funding has dropped.
Omalley and the legislature could come into his yard, dump a truckload of roundup on it, and still blame the neighbors dog for the dead spots in the grass. So sorry this narrow minded twit has anything to do with children.
Kharn, calling me names only prove that you have no parenting skills.
Its not a name, its a legal term which gives the school the ability to act in the best interests of the child, which is where their authority to discipline, search, etc, originates.
discipline or search in limited circumstances. having your kid dress appropriate and act in a civil manner are the parents job at home!
So you’re saying a kid can dress however they want and say whatever they want to the teacher and not be punished by the school? I agree that parents should teach their children to dress and act appropriately, but when the parents are not present, the school must step in to correct behavior and notify parents of problems.
The perfect angel at home can become the worst school-yard bully, just like the most conservative dresser can emerge from the bathroom looking like a street-walker. Without teacher/school feedback, how are parents to correct this behavior? Parents can’t sit in the parking lot with binoculars watching their kids (we’d get to have a nice meet & greet with the SRO), the school must take some steps to curb undesirable behavior and alert parents when it occurs.
Punishing is not in loco parentai. The school can discipline and institute procedures in certian boundaries. I am not saying the school should not provide feedback. You described the things that the school should and does do. That is not the legal term you gave. If that was the case the school could do alot more things!
How does Cecil County still manage to fund raises. Are they a more progressive county than Harford?
Not sure how true that is unless Cecil just has so many more younger teachers with less experience. Cecil County avg. teacher salary is about $2500/annually less than Harford.
Its easy. Those in charge of doling out taxpayer funds tend to be fiscally conservative and do not believe in spending money on dumb shit they cant afford. Cut the waste, spend the extra where its deserved. If only you Progressive stooges would let that sink into your thick yet narrow minded skulls.
Actually, your comparison is inaccurate. Here is a comparison of HCPS to Cecil County teacher salaries.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByiF0x2Xetm3TnQ5THVwRVFTaXc/edit?usp=sharing
I probably shouldn’t have looked at the comparison. I would be making almost $9000 more per year if I take my 23 years of teaching experience plus a master’s to Cecil County. I try never to compare my salary because I don’t want to be one of HC’s frustrated teachers. Don’t worry, I won’t let the door hit me on the way out.
There goes Burbey again, making a big deal. So someone who teaches in Cecil County makes about $45, 000 more in their first ten years of teaching than someone in Harford County. Next you are going to suggest that people actually prefer making more money. How presumptuous!
Maybe Cecil County does not offer $12,000 a month retirement benefits to their sups, leaving more money for teachers.
Apples and oranges- my number is bases upon actual avg. wages not pay scale. Gotta watch activists; they’ll resort to all matter of misinformation.
I run a business. I pay employees on three payscales: 10 that earn 75K, 10 that earn 50k, and 5 that earn 40k. My average employee salary is 58K.
My competitor also has 25 employees, also paid on three payscales: 5 that earn 80k, 5 that earn 55k, and 15 that earn 45k. His average employee salary is 29.4k.
My employees keep defecting to my competitor any time he has an opening. I don’t understand why they would want to do this because my average salary is so much higher than his! But they don’t seem to understand this, because all they can focus on is the fact that they will earn 5k more a year over there!
Gotta watch activists; they’ll resort to all matter of misinformation.
That’s an excellent point. Averages can go up simply because one has more employees on the higher end of the scale; it doesn’t mean that they are being paid more than their counterparts at another company (or school district). Of course, your equation shows that an average salary can be much higher than a competitor, even though your competitor is paying each level of employees better than you are.
So yeah….in this case and for this comparison, I think looking at the actual payscale gives a much better picture of who is getting paid what.
Mr. Tree,
I think your data is outdated, inaccurate or just plain false…
The average teacher salary in Cecil County Public Schools is $49,322.
http://www.teachersalaryinfo.com/maryland/teacher-salary-in-cecil-county-public-schools/
The average teacher salary in Harford County Public Schools is $49,088.
http://www.teachersalaryinfo.com/maryland/teacher-salary-in-harford-county-public-schools/
????The pay scale is what they actually pay! They actually pay this to real people!!!!!!
Cdev you are not only obtuse, you are stupid. The pay scale is the written document that shows what people at various levels MAY be paid. Generally it will be something like $18.21 – $23.50. A peerson who is in that category can be anywhere in that scale. Scale is not the amount paid. You have to go to the payroll register to find out what people are actually being paid. If the lowest paid employee makes $45,000 and the highest paid makes $100,000 you can not determine the average pay with htose data. There could be 50 people making 45 and only one making 100. Do you get it Komerad?
We have been comparing the teacher pay scales from Harford and Cecil counties. Neither are a generic scale; they don’t show what people at various levels MAY be paid. They show what they are EXACTLY paid. So you don’t have to go to the payroll register to find out what they are paid. They are getting paid exactly the amount shown on the pay scale. In this case a teacher on any given salary level is paid more in Cecil County than a Harford County teacher on the same level. As was pointed out earlier, the higher average salary can be attributed to a number of things, including a greater number of older teachers on the HCPS payroll. But the fact remains: any HCPS teacher that gets hired by CCPS on the same level they were at in HCPS will realize an increase in salary.
Get it Komerad?
As illustrated by this case average pay is skewed by age! Furthermore in this case there is no range you find yourself on the matrix that is what you make!
This is part of our impending problem. HCPS has an aging work force which is rapidly retiring. Our ability to attract quality new teachers or teachers with experience sucks compared to Cecil or Baltimore county. They look and see that we are having this fight for 5 years while the other two don’t and say thanks but no thanks.
Who’s tired of this same old shit, but a different year?
https://www.hcps.org/BOE/MeetingHighlights/Archive.aspx
You can literally spend hours gawking at the basically the same stuff that’s being talked about current day that was talked about in 1999! It’s never ending! Ahhh!!!!
“at the basically the same stuff”
Please use the same scrutiny in your own work.
Burbey – The aggregate wealth of a geographic area doesn’t mean everyone situated there is wealthy.
Every year we hear the same old things, your not the only ones out there . All you people do is cry about money. Give it up. Be happy for great health and waking up everyday. All teachers and administrators do is complain. Firefighters and law enforcement put their life on the line everyday and they are under payed. If your not happy resign.
I can only imagine the anger someone who has been laid off can feel whenvthey read this fools writing.
How about someone who had their insurance cancelled listening to this ‘gentleman’ complain about the poor way teachers are treated.
Sir if you some respect I would encojrage you to stop complaint about jobs that pay decent and have decent health care. Many people out there would love to have what these teachers have.
Many people out there work harder and all year for less then what these teachers make.
If you want more then say why they deserve more. Please spare the whole teachers are a victim mentality.
Sorry if there are any typos, getting tired.
You must be really tired! ZZZZZZZ
Tired and fat thumbs on my little cell phone, always means trouble!
Check out the true salaries of our sheriff’s department. They can earn lots of overtime. Sometimes that can be many thousands of dollars. Who needs a raise?
The totals with out overtime and the highest potential shift differential are as follows;
6m pay $48,537
1y pay $50,476
2y pay $54,148
Qualifying education: GED
And a free car, gas and insurance!
Where do I sign- Seriously!?!?!
Your forgetting the following:
Putting your life on the line everyday.
Working 12 months a year (no summer off)
Must work holidays
Possibly must work evenings and night shift
Must work in Snow, Hurricanes, etc.
On Call missing dinners, holidays, important family events with no additional compensation.
The deputies step increases haven’t been funded either.
Any by the way the it’s the Sheriff’s Office not Department.
Harford County Sheriff’s Office overpaid and overweight…. Have you seen some of these guys? Moooooo!
Lets not be misleading about the Sheriff’s Office compensation. If you are on call and get called in, you are on overtime pay. If you are working on holidays, you get overtime pay. If you miss family events its because you were already scheduled to work your regular shift or you are getting paid overtime.
Being on call and getting called out at all hours of the day or night is never pleasant, nor is working on the holidays, but to imply that it is without additional compensation is just plain wrong.
No Doubt some of the Deputys, are corn fed. both male & female they are auctually a disgrace to the uniform.
This debate is blurred by irrelevant data and personal feelings. The truth is teacher are performing their jobs at exceptional rates and our SAT, AP, and HSA data proves this. We are dedicated professions who love our job, students, co-workers, administration, and buildings. They are our second family. However, we can move on to Baltimore and Cecil counties and not only love our job, students, co-workers, and administration, but can also love the pay increases. We improve the quality of life for many, and are asking for raises to improve our quality of life. Calling Burbey a communist is unrealistic. He is just doing his job-one that I don’t like as a republican-and has a duty to fight for and support his members,
Wrong. You are a counter revolutionary. Commissar Burbey on several occasions has proclaimed his allegiance with me and the revolution. For disdaining the message set forth you must be reeducated.
Same bat time, same bat channel.
More money sought for schools, but council doubts priorities HARFORD COUNTY BUDGET ROUNDUP
May 21, 1995|By Phyllis Brill | Phyllis Brill,Sun Staff Writer
Raise the taxes! All the way back to the turn of the century!
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2000-03-31/news/0003310180_1_harford-county-tax-increase-property-tax
It’s literally like Copy and Paste. No need to type up new arguments, just redo the old ones!