Pushing back against a rash of violent crime in Edgewood, Harford County Sheriff Jesse Bane is concentrating resources on the area in what he calls a “summer initiative” to tell criminals: “You do not own this community, it belongs the people.”
Along with members of his command staff, Bane unveiled the initiative at a July 3 community meeting, at which he also defended his record and warned that the number of unsolved homicides would rise without greater cooperation from the public. The meeting, held at the Edgewood Recreation and Community Center on Brookside Drive, drew about 20 area residents, plus elected officials and other community leaders.
Violent crime reported in the area over the past six months includes three homicides and four shootings, with a spike beginning in mid-April, according to a list provided by Captain James Eyler of the Criminal Investigations Division. The full list appears below.
In response, police are bringing multiple resources to Edgewood, including increased foot and bike patrols, special details and motor vehicle enforcement, said Capt. John Bowman, head of special operations. Corporal Eric Gonzales from the gang suppression unit said that bike patrols bring police closer to residents who have tips or other vital information for law enforcement. Bane predicted that the motor vehicle stops would spark complaints, but he said that a stop for a minor violation could locate people wanted on outstanding warrants, or lead to arrests on more serious charges.
Less visible moves by police are also planned or underway. Bane said aspects of the initiative were “intentionally vague”, explaining, “I’m not going to tip our hand to the criminal element.”
The effort will require “vast” resources, including overtime pay, and manpower drawn from other areas of the county, Bane said, although he stressed that those areas would not be left unprotected. He later told the group that he had been criticized by political opponents for putting too many resources in Edgewood. Bane is planning a run for re-election in 2014.
The initiative will be reviewed in 30 days for possible adjustments, Bane said, and kept in place as long as necessary. “This is not going to be a show of force”, Bane said, “we’re in this for the long haul…we will be here as long as it takes.”
Bane and his commanders repeatedly stressed the need for cooperation from the community. Listing eight area victims of unsolved homicides since 1988, Bane said, “People in this community know who is responsible for these homicides. The list will grow if the community sits inside.”
He also acknowledged that fear prevented people from coming forward, “We do get it that fear is the biggest obstacle…we will do our best to protect you.”
Drugs and Gangs
“Drugs are the nexus to most of these crimes,” said Cpl. Gonzales. Police are also monitoring gang members who have been in jail and are returning to the area where they are influencing young people, he said.
“Kids like us at certain ages,” and understand that police are there to help, Gonzales said, but their feelings can change when they see police arresting a relative.
Bane told attendees, “If you think that we’re going to drive the gangs out of Harford County, I will pray for that miracle. There will always be a gang influence; we have to stay on top of them.”
Community Engagement
Bane urged residents to reactivate their homeowners associations, which he said once had power, but had failed the community in some cases. Citing boarded-up houses, broken windows, pot holes and trash, Bane also encouraged citizens to work with county government to improve conditions, and to get personally involved. He said that ServeFest, a volunteer community improvement program that partnered with local residents would not return to Edgewood because residents hadn’t participated in picking up trash.
With a population of 34,000, Bane also said that Edgewood has political clout that it doesn’t use, citing low voter turnout. He noted that Bel Air, Aberdeen and Havre de Grace each have police departments serving smaller populations. Bane also urged residents to attend monthly Edgewood Community Council meetings and invited them to ride along with police and attend the citizens’ police academy.
Cpl. Warren Brooks asked parents to stop joking with their kids by saying that the police will lock them up, because it encouraged kids to fear police.
Area residents and local officials in attendance also took turns outlining the problems and offering solutions.
“Who are the people coming down here to buy the drugs? The money is not coming from here,” said Mildred Samy, a community activist and co-founder of Mothers of Murdered Sons & Daughters of Maryland (M.O.M.S.)
Samy also called for a vocational school in Edgewood, and an extension of Harford Community College. “We need to show [young offenders] that they can be forgiven for one mistake,’ she said.
Daphne Alston, also a co-founder of M.O.M.S., agreed. “Our kids don’t make the drugs or manufacture guns,” she said. Police needed to “look at people with ties and suits,” she said, and make more arrests.
Both Alston and Shaneise Ware questioned police response times. Ware said she gave CPR to a man who was shot and lying on the ground outside her Edgewood home, but waited 20 minutes for police to arrive.
Bane said that he wanted more officers on patrol to cut response times, but his staffing levels at 0.8 per 1,000 in population were low compared to the state and national average of 2.7.
Bane also defended his record overall, saying that Harford County has the second lowest crime rate out of 24 jurisdictions in the state despite a flat budget for the past six years. He said that nearby Cecil County and Baltimore County ranked 20th and 16th lowest respectively, with Baltimore City ranked last at 24th.
Councilman Dion Guthrie, who represents Edgewood and Joppa, complained that Edgewood crime was singled out by the media. “They have murders in Bel Air,” he said, “How often do you hear about that?” Guthrie also said that he is seeking grant money to improve Grempler Way, a private road known for violent crime and the site of the area’s most recent homicide.
Urging his fellow citizens to be more proactive, Jansen Robinson, president of the Edgewood Community Council said that Edgewood has the greatest number of renters in Harford County, many of whom are disengaged. “We have 34,000 people but we don’t have 34,000 people with a vested interest in our community,” he said. Robinson also warned that more arrests will increase the need for re-entry programs to help people who are released from jail in need of housing and jobs.
Guthrie later said that furniture retailer IKEA tried to hire 100 forklift operators in the area but couldn’t find enough people to fill the jobs, even though the company was accepting first offenders with no experience, of course ensuring the security of the operator like these forklift safety lights that will make the forklifts safer.
Bane said that a re-entry program would soon begin at the Harford County Detention Center, adding that the center also serves as a de-facto homeless shelter, addiction treatment center, and mental health facility. He also decried a “screwed-up” incarceration system that allowed drug dealers to get out on bail while minor criminals stayed behind bars. At the current rate, Bane warned, the detention center will be full by the year 2020.
Bane concluded: “I hope you’re getting the picture. This is not just a policing problem.”
Below is the list of violent crime incidents provided by Captain James Eyler of the Criminal Investigations Division, followed by the open homicide investigations cited by Sheriff Jesse Bane.
Violent Crime Incidents
201200251902 12/29/2012 Domestic Shooting 1850 Grempler Way
Suspect: Keef Burley B/M 03/1992 charged with shooting sister through front door.
201300021044, 01/31/2013 Homicide, 1701 Trimble Road, Cunion Field
Victims: Michael Wayne Kearins b/m 10/95 (deceased) and w/m 8//94
Suspect: Charged Garfield Smith B/M 10/91 charged.
201300069723 04/14/2013 Assault Edgewood Shopping Center
Suspect: 17 year old juvenile W/M 11/1995 charged as adult.
201300074541, 4/21/13, Homicide, 1731 B Fountain Rock Way
Victim: Robert Wesley Johns w/m 2/62.
Still active investigation
201300083168, 74837, 04/21/13 & 5/3/13, 2 – robberies at Good time liquors and 1 at Royal Farms.
Suspect in these cases has been arrested and charged, Byron Stanley Woods b/m 3/70 Positive ID on 13-83168 for which we charged. MSP had one case Baltimore County has charged him as well in connection with some cases they are handling.
201300085617, 5/7/13. Armed Robbery Royal Farms, 630 Edgewood Road.
Suspect, Jammall Nathaniel Jackson b/m 10//80 charged
201300098810, 5/27/13, Shooting, Brookside Drive near basketball courts,
Victim not cooperative
201300105051, 6/6/13, Shooting, 1800 block of Grempler Way.
Victim not cooperative b/m 8//84.
201300108082, 6/10/13, Assault non-fatal shooting 1800 Block of Grempler Way
Juvenile Suspect b/m 15 yrs. charged as a juvenile and transported to Hickey.
201300110434, 6/14/13, 1st degree assault by pointing handgun 800 block of Windstream Way.
Suspect: Johnny Bolden b/m 7/9/59 arrested Gun recovered as result of S&S Warrant in the 1800 block of Eloise Lane
201300116547, 6/22/13, Homicide Grempler Way
Victim Quinton Arvel Stokes b/m 3/87.
Still active investigation
Open Homicide Investigations
1). 1988-Patricia Burns: Stabbing (Winters Run Rd.)
2). 2006- Waverly Lewis & Randolph Goodson : Shooting: (double homicide 1329 Gold Meadow Way)
3). 2007- Tyree Brown Shooting: 1880 Grempler Way
4). 2009- Brandon Saunders Shooting: (Harford Sq. W Ct.)
5). 2011- Christopher Alves: Shooting (1383 Harford Sq. Dr. O Ct.)
6). 2013- Robert Johns: Shooting (1731 Fountain Rock Way)
7). 2013- Quinton Stokes: Shooting (cut through to Grempler Way)
Sad, so many lies and political spin.
Well, no one can say that a job with an Edgewood police department wouldn’t be a busy and exciting career…
Yes, you would have to be so busy kissing Bane’s posterior that every call would be an exciting change of pace.
Why would an Edgewood Police Department have to answer to Bane? Do the Bel Air, Aberdeen and Havre de Grace PD’s leadership answer to Bane – or just cooperate?
Wouldn’t they be a “sister agency” and run by an elected / selected Chief?
Are these positions not duly elected and overseen by the Town Council?
Not trying to be a smartass, these are real questions! Thanks to anyone who knows the answer! I think that an Edgewood PD, imbedded within the community, could help. Perhaps take one of those homes on Grempler Way and make it a Sheriff’s Office Sub-Station for Community Based Policing?
Then again, it would probably get vandalized everyday….
I’m simply blown away by the massive number of people who came to hear what the Sheriff had planned for abating crime in Edgewood. A community of approximately 34,000 people, and about 20 of them showed up to hear the plan! Ya think they went away impressed?
Sadder still – thousands of people sitting around on some sort of aid and 100 jobs are spoon fed to the community regardless of criminal record and they can’t get 100 people to apply. Free crap is so much better I guess.
I’m a member of the Edgewood community and it’s truly a shame because I would have liked to attend this meeting had I been aware of when it was being held! No wonder only 20 residents were in attendance when there was absolutely no notification that this meeting was taking place! How is a community supposed to be involved if you don’t advertise opportunities for any community involvement?!?!
I have no idea how this meeting was announced. It does seem to be somewhat limited in scope with regard to who attended and how they got notified of the meeting.
This sounds like you wanted very few people at the meeting, and designed it in a way so that the media would give you favorable coverage, but you actually accomplished nothing.
“Both Alston and Shaneise Ware questioned police response times. Ware said she gave CPR to a man who was shot and lying on the ground outside her Edgewood home, but waited 20 minutes for police to arrive.”
I can confidently state that a 20 minute wait time for a response to a shooting in Edgewood is complete horseshit. A call like that comes out and everyone drops what they’re doing and goes lights and sirens to get there. Response times for a call like that probably range from less than a minute to maybe 5 or 6 minutes at most before the first officer is on scene from the time the call is dispatched. If she was giving CPR for 20 minutes to a shooting victim that’s because it took nearly 15 minutes before anyone called it in.
Lots of familiar names there…Samy, Alston, Ware…it’s good that you’re all involved now, but the entire community would’ve benefited had you all been as involved and concerned over the past 20-25 years as you raised your children who grew up to be right at the root of the problem plaguing certain areas of Edgewood today. I am sorry that it took losing children to get you involved, but if they hadn’t been heavily involved in gangs and drug dealing then there’s a good chance they’d still be alive. Hopefully other parents learn from that and manage to be successful in raising productive members of society instead of statistics (even if those parents have had/continue to have problems with the law at least do right by your children and teach them a better way.)
The response times can be verified.
Of course they can. Which is one reason I can confidently state that a 20 minute response time for a shooting is bs. If I’m wrong then feel free to provide a report number, the call time, dispatch time, and arrival time and prove me wrong.
Edgewood, mostly African American, and mostly white folks in the pictures above. Not sure if Bane or Mountain Christian (aka ServeFest) can bridge the cultural divide. We can thank Move to Opportunity and other “affordable” housing programs for the entrance to this mess. Now Mountain Christian is moving into the neighborhood after giving up on Serve Fest there? How to you clean the drug and gang rats out of a neighborhood to allow the peacable folks living there to live a quality life in a decent neighborhood. And who is holding slumlords feet to the fire for not taking care of their rentals? Wasn’t a deputy beaten by a mob in the Sunrise neighborhood when trying to break up a fight? Is it time to bring in the national guard?
At least Baltimore County took action and closed down York Park Apartments and The Village of Tall Trees. In the process they built single family homes in lieu of Section 8 housing. Harford County doesn’t have the balls to do this.
Balt.County moved the problem to someone else’s backyard. In about a year you’ll know where.
Same as Balt.City did with MTO.
Moving Edgewood will not fix the root cause.
You can take the kid out of the hood but you can’t take the hood out of the kid.
And what do you propose………………… give all the fatherless kids a new father?
Bel Air Guy,
What does Mountain Christian have to do with this? Aren’t they on Mountain Road in Joppa? I know a bunch of churches have banded together and do that ServeFest thing once a year or so. I think they are a fairly diverse congregation but they aren’t located in Edgewood.
You are correct that Mountain Christian is involved along with many other local churches in ServeFest which occurs once-a-year. Mountain Christian is upping their game by renovating the old Ames site and planting a church/community center/education center in Edgewood. Several families have moved into Edgewood to help be part of the solution rather than “commute” there on Sunday morning. Actions speak louder than words.
I hope each family followed Luke 22:36 and brought a sword, or for a more modern interpretation, a magazine-fed, semiautomatic carbine, with them.
They should have held this meeting on Grempler Way.
They did, thats the problem…no other residents heard about this. It was a targeted audience…yet again.
Yes it was a target audience. It was was targeted to every individual that lives behind the old Giant. Deputies went door to door to hand out flyers for the meeting. and if non one answered, they left a flyer in the door. People just refused to show up.
Cindy, Thank you for this article…however what is amazing to me is that a lot of Edgewood residents have been waiting for this meeting to be announced since the last announcement from the HCSO that an “initiative” and meeting would be held a later date to be announced.
http://www.daggerpress.com/2013/06/25/bane-announces-summer-initiative-in-attempt-to-curb-edgewood-violence/
That was on June 25 a Tuesday, to which we had no announced date. Then all of a sudden we have quick turn (not known) meeting at the Recreation Center behind Giant. Can you please tell me where the public release for this meeting was. The Public taxpayers of Edgewood did not know about it. There are more than 25 people interested in hearing about what is being done…taxpaying homeowners to be exact that are a little (to put it mildly) upset with the lip service and care bear syndrome.
Sheriff Bane I supported your efforts in the past but this is nonsense to conduct lip service of a meeting that you probably provided limited information on to just the members behind Giant and on grempler way. Was this put in the paper, community, etc…or just to Grempler way where you can talk differently there than you would to the rest of Edgewood who pay taxes. The majority of Edgewood Residents that pay taxes and your salary live in the rest of the community and deserve your ear (whether you like it or not) about this nonsense. Stop catering to Grempler and allow other residents to hold you accountable.
Cindy can you please find out where this announcement was placed please and why it was a turnaround time of 6 days from a TBD initial announcement (To Be Determined). I feel like this was a gool ol’ bait and switch….thats okay the ballot box swings both ways Sir.
I agree with everything you are saying! I too was checking the Dagger daily after seeing the initial article to see when the TBD date would be finalized and announced. I live near the community center and there was never even a sign posted there for passersby or any other notifications. There ARE more than 20-25 people that are interested in being involved in the community, even people near the “hot spots” and it’s a damn shame that we can’t be involved. My family would have also been involved in the trash pickup days too IF there was some sort of community notification.
I am an Edgewood resident west end and rarely hear of jobs being offered I am retired but a job’s a job think about if job’s were offered how they going to get to work they probably have no way to get there or the initiative I remember in my younger years I would hitch hike or walk to work even rode a bike from Aberdeen to Churchville do you really think those that need a job would think of doing such a thing fat chance boy have things changed. t
Cindy how is it that you, but none of your loyal readers knew when and where the meeting was being held?
Dennis – The short answer to your question is that we dropped the ball.
Prompted by Dan’s question above, I checked our records to figure out what happened: HCSO sent us the initial announcement about the summer initiative (which we published on June 25). The next day, HCSO sent us the same announcement, plus a separate media release with the meeting details. It was a short item and we discussed updating the initial release, or running it separately, or attaching it to a release from Mildred Samy’s group about their rally that Friday. But we didn’t end up doing any of the above – not as an intentional decision but apparently due to an oversight on our part.
To answer Dan’s question, HCSO also published the meeting details on their Web site (under news).
It’s election season, folks. Starting to see Guthrie’s and now Jansen Robinson’s name show up more and more. What a sham.
I was not in attendance at the meeting, but have heard from others that Sheriff Bane introduced Council Member Dion Guthrie as Dion Jones, and then never corrected himself. Just where does one think the Sheriff’s mind is?
You can be sure it is election season. The Aegis will be printing nothing but feel good news about the Sheriff and the HCSO.
I wonder if Shaneise Ware mentioned that one of the reasons the police are so bogged down with calls for service are that her and her husband flood 911 with daily calls for domestic violence. I’m sure she is interested in response times because when Leroy gets back out of jail, she will take him back and the probability that she will need ambulatory care one day is high. Dion Guthrie says why don’t we hear about the murders in Bel Air. Do we really need another article about Mr. Richardson murdering his father? The two previous Bel Air murders were the gang related shooting at a large party in bel air and the Michael Simmons stabbing of a GNC manager that were both the front page stories for weeks. Maybe outside of Harford County they only talk about Edgewood murders but Bel Air murders are talked about plenty here in county. The recurring theme here in these incidents in Edgewood is “victim uncooperative” and if we could list “witnesses uncooperative” that would just about cover the rest.
40 ounces and a fool, good post.
Jesse Bane is still feeling free to scare the public with his completely fabricated statistics on Sheriff’s Office Staffing. Mr. Gahler called him on it last year and yet he goes to this community meeting and does the same thing again. I understand he has issues with his memory going but this seems like an outright lie. Either way, time for him to go.
http://www.daggerpress.com/2012/02/28/gahler-sheriff-bane-is-either-uninformed-or-is-not-being-candid-in-his-comments-concerning-deployment-of-county-law-enforcement-resources/
Today’s Aegis has an article on page A8, about a 22 year-old male being robbed at gun point on Monday at the Edgewood Mystic Mart around 1pm in the afternoon by three black males. The article also states that the Mystic Mart has been the scene of past robberies. I guess the robbers don’t pay much attention to the summer initiative, or this new initiative does not include broad daylight hours.
Not to mention that the 22 year old’s civil rights were violated! He has a right to peaceably purchase an item at the Mystic Mart, without being accosted. Where’s the outrage?
Brianc, don’t get agitated with Mike Welsh. His posts are about getting Gahler elected sheriff in the next election. Just notice all of his posts- past and present.
Brianc, You have to excuse Mike Welsh. He is busy campaigning for Gahler for sheriff.
How does this ass-clown keep getting re-elected? I don’t think I really know anyone who votes for him. I guess I don’t know everyone. Or anyone in Edgewood or Aberdeen.
So in a nutshell it has taken Jesse bane over 6 years to come up with a solution for Edgewood’s problem areas. Is he that blind???? This area has been a problem for more then just the short term. I also wonder if the cameras that the taxpayers paid for are helping in these areas. Does anyone monitor these cameras? If so why not? This is too little too late.
Mrs Alston you seem to be turning this into a race issue example being your quote in the Baltimore Sun- “Lamenting the lack of African-American police officers”. I don’t know about you but if/when I call 911 I don’t care what race the person is that shows up. You also are quoted in this article saying “Police needed to look at people with ties and suits” “and make more arrests”, are you suggesting that police make arrest solely based of someone wearing a suit and tie in Edgewood. Isn’t that profiling??? I appreciate that you care about your neighborhood but do it the right way encourage people to call and report crimes. Don’t blame a citizen because they are wearing a suit and tie.
I am curious, why does Sheriff Bane have a black female Major from the jail walking around in Edgewood? No arrest powers so why is she there? She can not make arrests or even advise on a criminal matter, could it be for political gain? If so is this how you are going to deal with the issue in Edgewood? Jesse remember the man hunt for Richard Jenna? I was there with a lot of others and Sheriff Meadows was patrolling with us at night. Why not get out and lead by example? Do some field interviews, make some stops, run some wanted checks, look for some bad guys. If you can act like a cop in a movie you can actually do it in real life to.
Marc I see what your saying but you will never see Sheriff Bane actually do what he wants his troops to do. As for the female from the jail she has been driving the patrol major around for years instead of being at the jail, from what I hear they are glad she is gone alot. Its been brought up but nobody cares. The entire agency has a who cares attitude and it started at the top.
Perhaps you Bane haters could convince the Police Commissioner in Baltimore City to run for Sheriff of Harford County. After all, cleaning up gangs isn’t difficult now is it? Besides, look how successful he has been stopping all of the crime and shootings.
jedgar,
Sheriff Bane has been in office for going on 7 years. Are you saying that he has done a good job of cleaning up gangs? If he has, why is this summer initiative necessary?
Your comment seems to suggest that cleaning up gangs is an impossible job. I will agree that addressing the gang problem is not an easy job, but it is certainly not an impossible job.
Gee,Mike, Gahler usually issues white paper responses to Harford’s law enforcement problems. How come he hasn’t told us how to correct this situation?
jedgar,
That’s a question you should ask Mr. Gahler. My question was directed to you, and as usual you failed to answer the question.
Looks like Mr. Gahler answered your wish!
Deputy Dog, No, he really didn’t.
Mike Welsh, I do answer your questions when I think I am really being asked one. To answer you, no it is not impossible to do away with gangs when you get the people in the area cooperating. Do they cooperate in Balto. City? Why do you think they will in Edgewood? So, a sheriff has to be more than a macho knock them in the head overstep their rights leader. I know that is what most of the anti-Bane posters want. Changing a climate is not a quick fix especially since several other sheriffs let it start. Now be honest, Mike, do you think this problem started with Bane? Did I answer your question?
“Bane predicted that the motor vehicle stops would spark complaints, but he said that a stop for a minor violation could locate people wanted on outstanding warrants, or lead to arrests on more serious charges.” So my question is why do you continue to tolerate the BS complaints, transfer people at will because your patrol major that you promoted has it out for them. The amount of internal affairs investigations are ridiculous, and yes I will agree some are warranted. But you need to stand behind your deputies not take a dump on them. They Sir are the backbone of HCSO not you and not your command staff rather the men and women that are on the streets everyday.
Recently a Corporal made a “stop” and while running a subject a hit came up on a protective order. He investigated further and wanted to find out who the female passenger of the vehicle was and to see if she was okay because of the protective order. The female was uncooperative with the Deputy yet he did his job. It was finally cleared up and he issued a citation for a child safety seat violation. Guess what, the complaint came in and Major IA forms transferred him and the investigation began. What if he had not checked and she had been in danger? Witnesses and victims don’t want to get involved and this is why your people don’t want to get involved. If you do you job and do it well you are still jammed up. Yes a valid complaint needs to be looked into. You should also require the citizen to sign the complaint and explain to them if it is a false complaint they will be charged with a false report. Now they will say “if we do this it will keep people from coming forward.” No it will keep the liars from coming forward. Bottom line Jesse, you have mistreated your people and they do not trust you.
On another note, if you would have let Stoney, Verzi, or Bowman come up with a plan in fighting this problem it would work. I also understand that when you catch a juvenile offender with cigarette you and your new legal adviser have decided they can search no further on the suspect? Did J. Edgar Skippy learn this from his many years as a trial lawyer or is this just a liberal A. C. L. U. theory?
Sheriff Bane please tell me who you told about this meeting. Is there a member of the HCSO monitoring this post who can answer???? Since you like to post you “feel good” initiatives here maybe you can answer a question about why you kept this meeting quiet and only offered it to the problem area vs the rest of the community.
Sheriff Meadows had a meeting in Joppa on traffic concerns. The meeting was announced well in advance by media and the School was packed. If your new crime initiative was as planned as well as your notice for this meeting the crime should be cleaned up in no time. If you can not organize a meeting how will you stop crime Jesse? Seven years to come up with a plan? You should have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express the night before you may have done a better job. You do amuse me though, please don’t stop.
Planning? The original plan was to have the units drive through the neighborhood with the lights on, real effective.
To me it seems obvious. The Sheriff’s office cannot handle Edgewood by itself. Maybe time for their own department or assistance from the outside agencies.
If Sheriff Bane didn’t keep the departmentsdo short staffed maybe it could handle its own. But to keep the department at staffing levels that existed 10 years ago might be the problem. Make a sector 10 and other sectors that meet todays needs. I wont go into the lack of deputies in detail because that will give the criminal element an advantage but an example is Belcamp/Riverside/Perrrywood/Upper Churchville has only one deputy, this isn’t 1980 its 2013. Its an officer safety issue and a lack of policing to the citizens. Again I wont go into the full issue but will it take a deputy being seriously injured for you to get he point.
Maybe a zero tolorence policy towards crime would help. End the frivolous IA complaints about officers doing their jobs. Sheriffs Office needs a leader to stand behind the deputies. This entire agency is micromanaged. They need to get rid of all the cushy specialized positions and put those officers on the street. And then there is the Detention center, thats a whole other problem. 30 million dollar addition that cant be used due to not having enough staff to man it. Can you say waste of taxpayers dollars.
Bane needs to be careful, he could become the next George Zimmerman. He could end up on the poop stirring liberal networks. BTW, where is the doj tip line for Nicole Brown and Ron Goldmans murders? The liberal networks, Al Sharpton, Jessie “I never worked a day in my life” Jackson, Nancy DisGrace, Ms “I like to wear buckets on my head” Ali wont be happy until a race war breaks out.
I bet George Zimmerman is considering moving to Edgewood, MD after hearing about Jessie Bane’s summer initiative.
How does the county go about de-annexing the Edgewood area?
Is Fred Visnaw really Jedgar or Monster? Hmmmm…
Him or that peanut butter guy skippy. I’m sure Marc Eaton is happy that the Monsters back. Another thing is where is David A Porter????
They are going to run for sheriff and are busy writing bs that you dumb asses will support.
Be easy on Monster, he and I see eye to eye or more then you think. Things are not always as they seem.
I apologized for making fun of Marc Eaton. But I will never be content to hear some of the garbage I read by some of the people who post on here. So, if he is happy I am back, he will be ecstatic as I comment on the ruthless lies that are told here.
No, but who are you and how many names do you use when posting? Robin Hood indicates a thief to me.
Hi Jedgar – Does Fred Visnaw post here and which alias does he use? Monster perhaps?
and what postings do you use.
I just read a posting under Harford County Education association, where Monster mistakenly posted under jedgar. So please discredit anything that Monster/jedgar posts as it is clearly the same person.
We should elect George Zimmerman for Sheriff.
Monster, Your one sentence is a little confusing, “But I will never be content to hear some of the garbage I read” wtf does that mean?
It is not confusing, you just don’t like it. That is what it means.
How do you hear something that is written, I have heard of people that their brain is wired wrong, are you one of them?
Since Monster is also jedgar, maybe Monster read it and jedgar heard it. When you are in fact two people most mental health professionals concur that your brain is wired wrong.
Hanley Lamar, when I read some of the crap that you guys post, I have to read it out loud to really believe some dumb ass wrote it. Thus, that is how I hear it. Anything else, Mr.Gahler/Mr. Bodway?
Mike, How about if you are 3 people? You should be able to answer that.
Monster, you should read your post out loud to yourself, if you did you would not post anything else, you make no sense.
Follow your own advice.
Dear Sheriff Bane, if Major IA 28 drives by the Waffle House and sees more then two cars parked in the parking lot is it acceptable for her to call the duty officer and drop a string of f bombs in an angry tirade on the phone to address the problem? Then is it acceptable to confront one of the men and yet again deliver another f bomb riddled tirade at him? If they were to address Major IA 28 using the F bomb what would the out come be? Maybe Major IA 28 should spend some time in Edgewood looking for crime instead of being concerned about three cars parked together. I am sure the citizens of Harford County are more worried about crime then three cars in one spot. Jesse if you can not control your Major IA 28 how in the hell are you going to deal with the crime issue in Harford County? The people involved in this very unprofessional behavior from Major IA 28 should file a complaint for that behavior. You then can have another outside agency come in and investigate her behavior and when it is found to be a violation you can write it off as another policy failure as you did before. Having worked with Major IA 28 I have to say I am surprised at this and other actions. In order to get respect you have to give respect. Fear is not respect. Now, the call probably came in on a recorded phone line so now is the time to start erasing tapes and have your elite group of career destroyers start looking for the leak. Again Jesse, you can not control you staff so I put little faith that you can control crime in Harford County.
Update……to Bane and Major IA 28, your time would be better spent trying to solve the crime problem and not trying to focus on ways to intimidate the people you think are talking to me. You and Major IA 28 are like the school bully, you control it and you love the power and no one steps out of line. Then one day a new kid comes to school and he is not intimidated by the two bullies. They try everything to get that person in line but nothing works. Not the emails sent by made up names or the many attacks on the Dagger. Soon the other kids learn that the bullies have a glass jaw and their power slowly slips away and they are not so easy to push around. This is what is taking place to both of you, the people who do the dirty and hard work have had enough of the bullies and are fighting back. How childish for you and you second floor of the kingdom to concentrate on a has been like me. I also understand that the Chief of Bel Air is retiring and Major IA 28 has her eye on that prize. I wonder if a loose cannon such as myself would have a shot at that job? Hope to see you both at the Farm Fair, I will buy you both a corn dog.
Marc this whole initiative is smoke and mirrors, nothing more nothing less. IA-28 forms (which for the public is an internal affairs form against a deputy) are being passed around like gumballs in a candy shop. HCSO is a dysfunctional agency with a dementia patient at the helm.
You think 3 officers siting in waffle house while on duty is a good thing?
Marc your moral compass is broken.
Bill, you think it is morally wrong to sit and eat breakfast? Three cars are a moral issue? They have radios and can respond to any call for service. Out of everything I posted this is what you find wrong. Drive by the Sheriff’s Office in Bel Air and check the rear lot and count those cars. How many of them should be on patrol instead of sitting behind a desk? Bane is great with numbers and stats. Ask him how many certified police officers work Monday to Friday and are off weekends and Holidays? When you have an answer let me know, I bet I have it before you. I think Bane and Major IA 28 have the compass problem.
This would be the same guy stating that soldiers cannot eat “on duty”.
Why, for the life of me, do people always complain about a Police Officer having a meal? Do they think that they are issued some magical food that makes them less hungry during an 8-13 hour shift?
If everyone else in Corporate America can go out to lunch with their co-workers, why do people in the community always throw such a damn hissy-fit when they see more than 1 officer at the same place, at the same time? Perhaps they were not eating, they were there to subdue an unruly customer refusing to pay for his / her meal?
I think one of the main problems, is that Jesse Bane has lost control of his agency. It is obvious that he lacks the respect a leader ‘earns’ by leading from the front. Mr. Bane, put the badge on a plaque, and enjoy your retirement!
“You do not own this community, it belongs the people.” — Well, isn’t it the people in the community committing these crimes? Heaven forbid someone in Edgewood heeds this quote and “Stands Their Ground”!
“…staffing levels at 0.8 per 1,000 in population were low compared to the state and national average of 2.7.” Yes, rather low. What is the national average of “administrative officers” and command staff over patrol officers? I’ll bet that our illustrious Harford County Sheriff’s Department is well over the national average on that one.
You are spot on. He is “incapable of dazzling ’em with brilliance, so he baffles ’em with bullshit”!
When eating together and to share info this is a good thing. Yes maybe we are eating together, if a “hot” call comes out trust me we get up and go. But when you are eating your thanksgiving meal or opening presents on Christmas we work. When you are sleeping our midnight shift is protecting you. Quit making excuses and see that there are issues. Whose fault is it I don’t know but the citizens of this county deserve better and are not getting it. That’s what matters I can go out everyday and put my life on the line but when its time to speak up and tell you the public that problems exist you go after me. No I cant give my name because if I did I would be fired tomorrow. I love that everyday I get the opportunity to put on my uniform and badge, tell my family I love them and go protect you. No better job then this. But this crap with the commanders going after my brothers and sisters needs to end. I can promise you this there are enough deputies that have had enough and this crap will end. HCSO is where I want to be and where I will be but you will not treat me like crap, I will serve and protect but I WILL NOT be treated like crap from my own, It doesn’t HAVE TO BE THIS WAY, YOU CAME UP THROUGH THE RANKS DID YOU FORGET WHERE YOU CAME FROM?
Great post.
Fact Finder: I feel your pain, brother/sister, but what else can you expect from a “leader” that supported Obama and Owe’Malley in the past two elections?