Amid the excitement last Tuesday night concerning the tight Republican sheriff race and the not-so-tight county executive and county council races, nearly lost in the shuffle was the upset underway in the Democratic District 34A delegation race.
Marla Posey-Moss, a high school Spanish teacher and Aberdeen resident – who ran an unspectacular campaign for the same delegation seat in 2006 and finished in the middle of the pack – was surging ahead in the polls and threatening Democratic incumbent Dels. Mary-Dulany James and B. Dan Riley.
In this year’s three-way race for two Democratic nominations, Posey-Moss came almost out of nowhere to finish election night ahead of Riley and within 500 votes of James.
Posey-Moss led Riley by 43 votes on election night – a margin of difference which did not change after the first count of absentee ballots last Thursday. Pending the final canvass of absentee and provisional ballots on Wednesday, Posey-Moss is prepared to take her grass-roots campaign onward to the General Election in November.
“I am looking forward to a favorable outcome. I believe the candidates in my race worked hard to get the voters attention and I took no voter for granted. However, signs don’t win campaigns, people do. My qualifications are evident, I am ready and eager to serve people and assist them in their needs. I tell everyone not to underestimate the power of grass roots campaigning and go into communities where votes are waiting for request. In my favor, however, for every absentee ballot mailed, I sent the voter a campaign brochure,” Posey-Moss said in an interview last week.
God, the State Department of Business and Economic Development, and Everything in Between
“I believe my success is attributable to several factors. First, my support network of God, family, friends, and volunteers were the most important factors that helped me make it this far. Name recognition was strong among my supporters in 2006 and I targeted new voters. Another crucial aspect is that I expressed my being a proud Progressive Democrat in a district that has nearly a 2:1 Democrat to Republican ratio. Additionally, I outreached to all people everywhere I went because I understand how 6 degrees of separation works. The platform is far-reaching and is more so about the people rather than about the party. Furthermore, my experience having worked in legislative affairs while at the State Department of Business and Economic Development and my educational training in economics and public policy and management gives my run the credibility it needs to be a viable candidate. Moreover, I have been visible and accessible in both Harford and Cecil Counties. Lastly, I am simply an honest person with a positive attitude and personality,” Posey-Moss said.
Posey-Moss the Educator, Advocate, and Leader
“Since the very beginning of the campaign, my message continues to promote keeping the populous informed, saving consumers and businesses money, securing health care for women and families and strengthening public safety. The theme of the campaign to Educate, Advocate, and Lead constantly resonated with voters and means that my goal is to educate my constituency, advocate on their behalf and lead them with strong legislative leadership. My network of volunteers as well as myself was aggressive in marketing the campaign. I was consistent in my genuine approach to people regardless if I knew they lived in my district because the reality is, word travels about something good. I simply listened to people when I asked them about their concerns and about the issues that affect their lives. And, it is clear in my campaign literature that I believe in upholding our constitutional and legal rights,” Posey-Moss said.
Sticking to Her Grassroots
“I am very humbled by the outcome because this was not an easy run. I didn’t target either of my Democratic comrades, I just pursued the position. Yet, I am still disappointed about the turnout. Nonetheless, to whom much is given, much is expected. I am not perfect but I will do my best to meet expectations. I am running for service during a time when people are increasingly impatient and they allow fear and ignorance to overcome sound and reasonable judgment. I am grateful to those who voted for me because they clearly took my candidacy seriously and thus, no one should ever be underestimated because one never knows who is quietly being supported,” Posey-Moss said.
Riley Shows Honor in Defeat
Riley spent most of the day last Thursday at the Board of Elections Office, hoping to pick up additional votes and gain ground on Posey-Moss. At the end of the day, however, the margin remained the same after each candidate picked up another 35 votes.
A few more absentee and provisional votes remain to be counted this Wednesday, but they are unlikely to cause any change in the results. Riley recognizes this, but said he owes it to his constituents and supporters to stick with the campaign until the last of the votes have been counted.
“Doubt if there will be any change in the outcome. For my supporters, I will not concede until it is officially over,” Riley said last week.
Riley credits Posey-Moss for rallying her supporters out to the polls on Election Day, something many candidates across the state were unable to do. As a “conservative/blue dog Democrat” Riley said he traditionally fares well in the District 34A General Election, but he fears Posey-Moss will have a difficult time emerging as one of the top two vote-getters among James and Republicans Patrick McGrady and Glen Glass.
“This consensus is shared by many of my Republican friends, that they now have a very good chance of winning my seat,” Riley added.
Nevertheless, Riley, who has had an on-again, off-again relationship with elected office (won in 1998, lost in 2002, won in 2006, lost in 2010), maintains a philosophic view on the matter.
“There are only two outcomes in an election. You win or your opponent wins. This loss is a tough one, but I will survive. I did the best I could do for my constituents and it was an honor being their delegate,” he said.
Dude, under “Sticking to Her Roots,” Posey-Moss refers to her Democratic challengers as “comrades.” ‘Nuff said.
My fault. I meant “opponents.” Not “challengers.”
Yeah, I can see why you would be scared of the word. Just another typical I-need-to-be-afraid-of-the-commie-under-the-bed-because-if-I-don’t-live-in-fear-I-would-not-know-how-to-live Republican.
com·rade
noun
\?käm-?rad, -r?d, especially British -?r?d\
Definition of COMRADE
1
a : an intimate friend or associate : companion b : a fellow soldier
We don’t fear the Progressive/Socialists. We just consider them mortal enemies of our Constitutional Republic who need to be defeated. Comrade.
Amen.
Scared, Dan? No. I’m not scared of the outcome for a delegate race in which we have a strong and articulate conservative in a district that is 2:1 Democrat but votes overwhelmingly for a Republican (who happens to be the Senate Minority Whip) every election. Funny how you found it necessary to define the term yet you knew exactly what it was to which I was referring. Just a typical holier-than-thou-I-care-more-about-people-than-you-do-so-I-am-going-to-justify-failed-socialist-wealth-redistribution-programs-by-invoking-class-warfare-and-calling-it-compassion Democrat.
Haaaaaaa!!! Well said Mr. Hunter !!!
House district 34A is NOT Senate district 34, which includes almost all of Cecil County north of route 40, and area including the VERY conservative town of Rising Sun and surrounding communities. While Jacobs has been winning consistently in Senate 34, I seriously doubt she would do as well (not saying she wouldn’t win, just that she would not do as well) in House 34A.
Once more, you demonstrate your lack of information and ability to research. Oh, and your lack of knowledge about Harford County.
Nancy consistently wins in Harford County- In Harford County, 2006- she won over Kilby(Dem) with 11837 votes to 9341.
2006 Results from District 34 Senate race in Harford County – Jacobs (R) 11837 —Kilby (dem)9341
Looks like a handy win.
Just goes to show that You, ProudDemocrat, know less than you think you do. Jacobs does very well, and McGrady will too.
I’m excited to pick up that seat down there.
The two of you are quite ignorant people. Bad enough you must denigrate one because they have a different political affiliation, but the fact that you consider a 2500 vote difference such an overwhelming victory considering how little campaigning Kilby did compared to Jacobs, the fact that Jacobs was an incumbent,and the fact that she had something like 11 times the amount of campaign funds on hand (compliments of Hess and company) shows your ignorance, not mine. As I said above, it is obvious that Jacobs (or for that matter McGrady) can both win in House 34A, but I stand by what I say when the victory will not be (quite) as easy as it is in Senate 34.
So typical of those brainwashed by Fox… rather than an intellectual conversation about electoral realities, you must attack and call names. Pathetic.
What everyone needs to remember about this woman is that she is an admitted “progressive democrat.” It is the so-called “progressive democrats” that are ruining this state and our country (many at the Federal level supported by George Soros and company). If you want to pay higher taxes, see government grow, more government spending and lose more of your freedoms, than vote for this canditate this November. If you vote for this woman and she wins in November, you will give the democratic majority in Annapolis even more power. They will do whatever they want regardless of how the people feel (look what happended in this state when taxes were raised and what is now happening in this country). They don’t care what the people think or say. They do what they want to do; progressive democrats think they know what is best for you even if you disagree. MY SUGGESTION: DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT, OR ANY DEMOCRAT FOR THAT MATTER. EVEN OUT THE PLAYING FIELD IN ANNAPOLIS BY ADDING MORE REPUBLICANS. IF YOU THINK I’M WRONG . . . GO AHEAD, ELECT YOUR DEMOCRATS, BUT GET YOUR WALLET OUT BECAUSE YOU WILL BE PAYING MORe (THAT’S A FACT.)
I don’t know anything about Posey-Moss. Only saw that her signs read “Progressive Democrat”. Her website speaks about innocuous items like consumer protection, small business advocacy and public safety. I’m left wondering just when/where the “progressive” will begin to bleed through, and to what degree. I take a fairly strict view of anyone calling themselves a “Progressive”, but maybe she’s not. I guess time will tell.
Progressivism is the disease…..Liberty is the cure.
Funny thing about Posey-Moss. On her website under Small Businesses, she advocates that she will reduce the costs to small businesses by regulating overdraft charges by banks?? Thats probably on the bottom of the list of expenses to a small business and really only a platform issue for those that abuse their bank accounts. She also made a comment about “The profits that banks are building off our backs…”. What she failed to note is that the profits that those banks made in the early 2000’s produced hundreds of thousands of jobs that all disappeared when profits dried up.
Next things she’ll be advocating that grocery stores should be socialized because the profits these companies reap could have potentially feed all those that are hungry. ha! Welcome to America Posey-Moss! In America, if you dont like the service your bank (or any other business for that matter) is providing, dont use their services! get over it!
Yes, I’m sure she is planning the destruction of the very fabric of our country from inside the Maryland state house. Oh, don’t forget to look under the bed for the other boogeymen in your life tonight. Grow up.
Not sure who you’re message was intended for since you began a new thread and didn’t reply to an existing one. Assuming it’s for me, it’s my opinion that progressives feel the only way to “move forward” is through more government control and less personal freedom. Take a look at history.
The more you “give away” to people, the more you enslave them and entitle them at the same time. At the root of progressivism is the notion that you need someone to take care of you, since you’re too tired/poor/victimized/disadvantaged to take care of yourself. Granted, there are some folks that NEED assistance. I’m not saying they should be denied. Strict progressives feel that the best way to move forward is to control the path you walk on. I don’t know if she’s one or not.
Your complacency regarding just what can or can’t be done at the state level, and how it does or doesn’t affect the country is exactly why this country is in the sorry state it’s in. So, go back to watching American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, the Orioles and reading People magazine. Big Brother will take care of everything else for you.
Sometimes I wonder if the voters in this state (and county) vote for the person with the most signs . . . without knowing much about the candidate. Regardless of how she portrays herself, she is a progressive democrat and that is a liberal.
“conservatives” ran the country broke with Iraq war and unfunded mandates from no child left behind. “liberals/progressives” are taking more out of the wallet at the national and local levels with sales tax increases, continued increases in health care premiums, cap and trade legislation. Reps think they are right. Dems think they are right. We in the middle class – screwed either way.
No Child Left Behind was a joint venture between George W. Bush and Ted Kennedy and a program that Barrak Obama has said is a good thing that just needs some tinkering to fix it. So I’m not sure how you can claim that Progressives weren’t behind it.
I’m with Fred.
Wait, I mean “Fed.” Fed?
Posey Moss only won because Rovall Washington campaigned his butt off. Rovall turned out a very high percentage of black voters. Marla Posey Moss isn’t stupid. That is why she went through the extra added expense of putting her picture on her campaign signs. She wanted “certain” voters from “certain” areas of the district to know what she looked like. Plus, Rovall and Posey Moss spent all week of early voting busing people to the polls.
Poor Dan Riley….well actually, it’s ironic….democrats support early voting and specifically cater to minorities and they both cost him the election. By no means am I trying to sound like I’m stereotyping here….just making a “politcal” observation.
On another note, Mary Dulaney James shamlessly puts her face on her campaign signs. A picture from 10 years AGO!! Seriously….??
I can’t really comment on the rest, but I do know that Mary-Dulany’s picture was taken this 4th of July before the Havre de Grace parade. She does look great for her age!
how so? Washington got stomped
It comes down to this: Do we want another “Progressive Democrat” in Annapolis? Dan Riley was a fairly conservative Dem, but with Mrs. Posey-Moss we get a self-proclaimed liberal extremest a.k.a. “Progressive”
This says a lot about that district. Mary Dulaney James was caught in trading her vote on the “technology tax” in order to have Sheila Hixon refuse to bring the elected school board bill to the floor for a vote. Once she was caught, the following year she didn’t show up for the vote and the people of Harford County won a right they deserve. And Ms. Dulaney-James won the primary again? She knew what the people of Harford County wanted and cheated to keep us from getting it. I must assume the majority of the voters in that district are very uninformed.
No need to fear Ms. Posey-Moss, she is honestly the most incompetent person I have ever come across in my life. Yes, she is a spanish teacher in HCPS, my son had her 2 years ago. She gets passed around each year to a different school because of how totally incompetent she is. My husband and I spoke to the principal of the school my son attends. As soon as we mentioned her name, we were told not to worry, he is getting rid of her at the end of the year, she is incompetent (his words). He assured us that at the end of the year he will go through the student’s work and fix all of their grades, she can’t teach and she can’t even grade assignments properly. That the principal was willing to say this to parents, not just us but many parents who met with him about her, speaks volumes. At the end of the year, each student received a corrected grade, and for the following year they had to group all of her Spanish 1 students together in a class that stated over with Spanish 1 and then continued to Spanish 2. I am not making this up. She is so bad that the principals have to take turns dealing with her, how sad for the students. Yet, we all know, we can’t fire bad teachers…….
No need to fear her, she is not competent or committed to anything. If she wins in the general election, I’m quite sure she will be as lazy and pathetic as she was as a teacher. It shocks me that anyone who spoke to her for more than 2 minutes would vote for her, her extreme lack of common knowledge is very evident immediately. We left a conference with her just shaking our heads, it is impossible to believe she could even graduate college. My children have had some great teachers and some not so great teachers, but no one has ever been even close to as bad as her. I was honestly in complete disbelief!
Wow, Sandy. Way to slander someone anonymously. THAT takes guts.
You mean “libel”…..”defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.”
How’s the game?
I always get them confused. Thanks for clarifying. And, um, what game?
P.S. I hope Sandy gets served with a lawsuit. That is all.
How do you know that what Sandy stated is defamation of character? It could be quite factual, and therefore not libelous. I surmise that it would be “definition of character” at that point.
Rt. 40 Guy, I guess you don’t know the definition of slander. What I wrote are facts.
Case law is very specific on the issue of political free speech. It is given the widest latitude by the courts. Public figures (including Ms. Posey-Moss) are fair game for comment. Unless the plaintiff in such a case can prove outright lies and complete fabrications by a defendant whose intent was to injure the reputation of the plaintiff there is no chance to win such a law suit. Sandy would appear to be on legally safe ground in this instance.
Sandy, Ms. Moss does NOT work for HCPS any longer. She now works for the Baltimore County Public School system. (Second year there) Hmmmmmm…..wonder why?
The big winner in the race was Patrick McGrady! Finally 34A will have atleast 1 rep. that represents us, even if Mr. Busch tells them differently!!!
Facts?
“She gets passed around each year to a different school because of how totally incompetent she is.” – this is an opinion.
“she is not competent or committed to anything.” – see above.
“her extreme lack of common knowledge is very evident immediately.” – see above (again). this is becoming tiresome.
Maybe YOU should have paid more attention in school. I weep for your children that they have to be raised by someone so ignorant. I would have had more respect for you if you had said “I don’t like her because she’s a Democrat.” That would be a statement of FACT, not opinion. Are you taking notes?
Sandy’s comments may indeed be opinion, which everyone is entitled to have. I do not argue their accuracy. Nothing said falls within the purview of civil litigation. No case thus far.
Rt. 40 Guy, Getting changed to different schools each year? How exactly is that an opinion. The principal was the one who provided me with the reason. It is, indeed, a fact that she gets passed around to a different school each year.
I don’t care if she is a republican or a democrat, that has no bearing on the issue of incompetence. While it is certainly my opinion, it is also the opinion of HCPS or they wouldn’t have this system of moving her to a different school each year in place. I generally tell my children, when they dislike a teacher, that it is a learning experience and you probably will have a boss one day you don’t like. But this teacher was utterly ridiculous. So much so that the principal had to review EVERY ONE of her students’ grades and fix them at the end of the year. I have never come across anything like that before, has anyone else?
It sounds like you are the one who didn’t pay attention as you can’t tell the difference between fact and opinion.
Weep for my children? Seriously? I’m guessing that you have a tendency toward the dramatic. Yes, that is an opinion, but an opinion based on observation.
All nonsense aside, the voters need to know as much as they can about the candidates they vote for or they are not doing their job. They should look into what I have posted so they can do their own investigation. That’s what public comments are all about.
Nice job in isolating one of the things I said and addressing it while ignoring the others. Typical bait and switch. You must watch Fox News all day. Saying that you spoke with the principal and “he said this” and “she said that” is nothing but total hearsay. I’m sure if I called the principal or HCPS they would not comment which completely invalidates what you have said. It’s nothing more than some Bel Air soccer mom spouting off because she doesn’t like the Democratic candidate. Or is it because she’s black?
Or did you just ask that question because you surmise that Sandy is white? Only a racist would do that. Why do you hate white people?
Bruce, good point, I didn’t even catch that part of Rt. 40 Guy’s rant. I should add that I also don’t live in Bel Air.
You don’t know the meaning of bait and switch either? Really, you are giving a lot of us some great entertainment. I chose to address your first comment because it is a fact that she was transferred from school to school. You ignored my question of how that could be an opinion statement, yet you complain that I didn’t respond to your entire list? You might want to look up the word hypocrite.
Yes, some of what I wrote was opinion, that’s the point of sharing on a public forum. You forgot to mention that I backed all of my opinions with reasons. Hearsay? Do you think we are defending ourselves in a court of law? You really have lost your mind on this. I’m sure HCPS would not comment to you, that doesn’t invalidate anything, it just means they won’t comment. They would have to give you opposing information to invalidate anything. And if you believe anything from HCPS you obviously haven’t had any dealings with them. As far as the principal, I have purposely not said which principal because it isn’t up to me to include someone else in this. It sounds like parents from different schools have had the same problem with this teacher.
I’m not a soccer mom, and I don’t know why you assume I am either a soccer mom or a republican. I haven’t mentioned sports or party affiliation. I just said that Ms. Posey-Moss is incompetent and lazy. Republican or democrat, these are not good qualities in a leader.
Here we go with the “its because she’s black” thing again! Last ditch effort when all other arguments fail. And you assume that because shes so passionate about her childrens education that shes a white soccer mom from Bel Air? What a prejudice statement that I’m sure Sandy appreciates. And you assume that because Posey-Moss is black, all her failures are due to her race? Give me a break!
As a teacher, I can assure you that its a well known fact among teachers that Posey-Moss was a poor teacher in the HCPS. If you call the school system, of course they will not divulge that fact because law prohibits them from commenting in such a way about an employee.
Speaking of slandering someone under an alias. Atleast Sandy is willing to share her real name, Mr. Rt. 40 guy, haha!
I think it wasn’t so much that Sandy is passionate about her children’s education as much as it was that she was tearing into Posey-Moss with personal opinions that were presented as facts. At least, that was my take away.
Watcher, no, not at all. I have backed up all of my statements with the reasons I feel that way. Yes, I am very passionate about my childrens’ education, but my purpose was to point out the reasons I feel she is incompetent and would make a poor choice for a delegate.
Watcher, Yes I am passionate about my childrens’ education, but the point of my post was to say that Ms. Posey-Moss is incompetent and lazy and she would be a poor choice in the general election. I backed up all of my reasons and how I formed my opinions. Some were opinions and some were facts. Have you noticed that no one who knows her has disputed any of my claims?
The actions which Sandy described, moving from school to school every year after a request from the principal that the teacher not be retained, is an ongoing problem in the Baltimore City School system and insiders refer to it as “the dance of the lemons”. It is a well documented fact that teachers who move every year are the ones no school wishes to retain.
I have met the lady and heard her stump speech on more than one occasion. Little content and a shallow understanding of the issues. She won’t get my vote in November. I have also heard several people address her inadequacies as a teacher.
Am I to understand that the Board of Elections gives out the names of those that request absentee ballots to candidates before the election occurs? That would allow candidates the opportunity to specifically target (or harass) individual voters. I know that records of who voted in elections is public record after the election, but to do give out that kind of information ahead of time I would think is a violation of privacy. Candidates have to take their chances that they will be reaching potential voters with mailers before election day, absentee voting should be the same.
They do. What constitutes privacy really? You also need to understand that the laws are written by those RUNNING FOR OFFICE, so of course they will make it as beneficial for them as possible. Just like how they are exempt from the “DO NOT CALL” list.
According to her website:
Currently, I am a Spanish teacher at Lansdowne High School in Baltimore County.
Inherwords, that is great news for the students of Harford County, but so sad for the students at Lansdowne High School and Baltimore County.
My grandson had her as a German teacher in 7th grade at Aberdeen Middle, some 6 years ago. I sat in on a couple of her classes and found out that she can not even speak German and has had no formal instruction for it. I actually ended up up taking over her class one day. Her pronunciation and verb use was absolutely horrible. I had heard the the HCPS had finally gotten rid of her and that she is now plaguing Baltimore County. Sandy is spot on with her observations and doesn’t need to defend herself from RT 40 guy. By the way rt 40 guy how about tossing your essentials out there the way Sandy and I have.
I will vote against her in the general as I did in the primary for two reasons: First because I came home to find her sign in my front yard one day. What a surprise! That was very rude and probably illegal. Glad I read the sign though, the word progressive got my attention.
I was surrounded by progressives/greens in Balto. City. They were the most intrusive, self-righteous bullies I have ever been harassed by. Until I met them, I thought I was sort of liberal. Live and let live is not what liberals are about – they insisted that I submit to their imagined authority. They made it clear that they, not Balto. City made the law on my street, so I quietly sold my house to a businessman they hated and moved out here. I vote to be free of progressives again!
Not sure how you can call yourself a Democrat if you really think that McGrady would better represent the people of Joppa/Edgewood/Aberdeen/Havre de Grace than Posey-Moss. While I personally was quite fond of Riley, there is NO QUESTION that Posey-Moss will vote to support our education system, BRAC-related infrastructure improvements, environmental protection, and will support women’s causes along with fighting for the poorer amongst us FAR FAR better than will McGrady. If you do not support those issues, then I wonder why you would call yourself a Democrat?
Sandy,
You and others posting here are exactly correct . . . Rt. 40 Guy is obviously not from the legal field (in regard to the law suit comments). I have to take your word for it in regard to how nasty she can be because I don’t know her personally. What I do know is that she admits that she is a “progressive democrat” (in other words a liberal). Hopefully, the word gets out to the citizens and do not vote for her (including the “Obama” cool-aid drinkers).
I would think that the school administration that places a teacher who cannot speak the language in a foreign language class is at fault for the outcome, not that teacher who is merely trying to handle the task that they’ve been assigned.
I wish that was true. There are so many teachers who really don’t belong in the classroom. The school system talks about principals being in charge of their school but there is no accountability when bad teachers are hired by that principal. In this case, the county moved her but she is somewhere else! Who suffers – the kids.
Ceeramic, while I agree that your point makes perfect sense, it is not always the case in HCPS. I have seen math teachers put in english classrooms, etc, because they have to go where they are needed. They are sometimes given the choice to teach the other subject or to be transferred to a different school. I don’t know the background of how she ended up teaching German but my understanding is that she doesn’t speak Spanish either. I don’t know if that is true, but it would make sense since she couldn’t grade the papers correctly for that class and they had to group the students together the next year so they could learn Spanish 1 and 2 together. The curriculum is there, the teachers are responsible for learning what they will be teaching the kids. They have to prepare, just like the teachers who are stuck teaching Living in a Contemporary World. There are training opportuities available, but teachers can’t be forced to attend them because of their contract. Good teachers take advantage of free training classes, lazy teachers don’t. LICW is completely different, but a teacher with integrity, who is there for the students, would not put herself in that situation. I wouldn’t accept a job I wasn’t qualified for unless I was willing to put in the extra work, especially if it would negatively affect a child’s education. Ms. Posey-Moss doesn’t have the integrity or ambition to do that. That says a lot about her character and is an indication of how she will perform as a delegate.
I cannot believe you are making excuses for this teacher. But then again you are the same person that is willing to look the other way when Guthrie abuses his constituents.
Ceeramic; Your problem is that you are trying to apply logic. At the time I am talking about the administration was less competent than the teacher.
I found Dan to be Incredibly dedicated to doing the best job he could and I know he will be back.
GD!
I just read up a little on Ms. Posey-Moss and discovered that
SHE SERIOUSLY PROPOSES THAT TEACHERS RECEIVE UNEMPLOYMENT DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. NO JOKE.
This woman is an obvious radical and apparently cannot manage her finances well if she truly advocates this policy, so how on earth can we expect her to handle the multi-billion dollar state budget? I know that the people in District 34A will not elect a person who feels entitled to be on the dole for three months because her (on average Maryland teacher’s) salary of $54,000 is not enough to allow her to put away funds to get through July and August. Most financial institutions even have special programs to help teachers save for the summer months! This is shocking. Truly astounding.
RINO Hunter, this is just another example of her incompetence. She is running for office and hasn’t even considered that if teachers were to collect unemployment pay, then they would lose all of their benefits for the summer as well. Teachers, in general, were very upset when asked to contribute a little more to their health insurance and she is suggesting that they either lose their insurance or pay the full premium through Cobra over the summer. Amazing!
I also should add that at one time HCPS gave teachers the option of getting their pay over 10 months or over 12 months, to help those who can’t budget. I don’t know if they still offer this or not. I don’t know why anyone would choose to let the county hold on to their money instead of earning interest on it themselves, but I do know that many people over pay their income tax on purpose just to get that big refund in April. It doesn’t make financial sense to me, but there are a lot of people out there that prefer the big refund.
The 12 month option was offered by Harco not HCPS!
Years ago (as in within the last 10), HCPS did offer teachers their pay spread out over the 12 months. Then, several years ago, they moved to the 10 month period at which point Harco did their Summer Savings plan. I had an acct at another bank and set up something similar. Moss’ apparent claim that teachers should file for unemployment over the summer is ridiculous!
Thanks Sarah, I know I remember reading about this.
Cdev, How did that work? I used to work for a bank and I don’t understand how this could happen. Did Harco just KEEP the money for an extended period of time? What kind of an account was it put in? And who would approve the release of it? Someone would have to be the owner of that account, and that someone would earn interest on that money. Can you explain this for me?
It was deposited in a savings account of yours (and drew interest) then in the summer it was disberssed where you wanted like a check. you could get it if you wanted to.
Just to make sure I understand, they kept a portion of each paycheck and deposited into your savings account. And you could take the money out whenever you wanted with no penalty? Thanks for explaining.
What is this woman thinking? My son is a teacher and when I told about him what she wanted to do he started laughing hysterically.
Did anyone else hear that she wanted to mandate teaching Chinese in the schools? A friend told me she had it up on her website for a while. I went to check it out and it was no longer there.
Did she really want to mandate teaching Chinese in high school? Unbelievable.
I heard her give a campaign speech a month or so back and she did indeed say Chinese should be mandatory instruction in schools. She is a real lightweight on the issues. There are better candidates out there.
Really? Where was this?
Really? Where was that?
Member true….he can voice his opinion which will carry no weight as he is not a resident. of that district.
Member true….he can voice his opinion which will carry no weight as he is not a resident of that district.
but he may know others that live there and can influence their vote!
OK but remember she would be their rep not his.
CDev,
It doesn’t work that way. If she ends up in Annapolis her vote would have an impact on everyone in the county (and state). If we can start reducing the number of democrats in Annapolis, the state (the citizens) will benefit.
CDev,
I do live in the district and vote. I play in Bel Air . . . you know . . . work (or maybe you don’t).
yes I know what work is….I do it to. Are you insinuating I do not know?
Cdev . . . you are losing it ! ! ! Give up.
I’ll give you 43,500 reasons why she wants the job.
I have read the article and the astonishing number of comments about this race and frankly I was shocked by Sandy’s numerous comments disparaging Marla Posey-Moss. First, we have to credit the candidate for running a very effective campaign. She had her church and community behind her and it showed at the polls. I was sorry to see Dan Riley lose as he is a friend of mine and a good legislator AND A GOOD TEACHER WHEN HE WAS AT THE MAGNOLIA MIDDLE SCHOOL. Marla Posey-Moss is also a good person and she has devoted her professional career to public education and for that she deserves and has earned our respect.
By the way, I voted both for Dan Riley and Marla Posey-Moss. The other legislator I believe thinks she has a sense of entitlement, but she’s not a bad person either. In any case, the voters made their choices. When someone else wins who is not your candidate, you need to respect more the persons who voted for that candidate because they exercised their free choices in the election too, just as you did.
Now as for the shocking comments that Sandy made, I was astonished that she would generalize about the candidate’s credentials as a teacher simply from her own child’s experience. There is a lot we don’t know about this situation, and I’m not saying that Sandy’s child did not have an unsastisfactory experience. But in defense of teachers, have any of you who have not taught ever stood in front of 30-40 students–perhaps in four to six classes per day, dealing with class clowns, people who don’t want to be in school, and tried to keep the entire group focused on learning whatever it is you are trying to teach? It is very hard work, and it is not compensated very well. Parents today have very high expectations and when their little darlings don’t turn out to be the geniuses that they think they deserve to be, what a convenience to have a teacher to blame! Sandy didn’t tell whether she helped coach her son in Spanish, whatever he did to become a better student in the subject. No, it was all the teacher’s fault. And the principal–maybe he was just deflecting some very annoying criticism by saying whatever he thought Sandy wanted to hear. Did Sandy survey the whole class to find that no one learned anything? Of course not. She was too busy slamming the teacher who won the election. I can’t believe that Marla Posey-Moss was as bad as Sandy said she was.
It’s not uncommon for public school teachers to move around to different schools and different school systems. It might have as much to do with the needs of the school system or schools as it does with the teacher. And then there are some teachers who just don’t fit in with the administrators that well. It’s called politics in the workplace. Everyone has to deal with this who works, so we shouldn’t put too much weight on that kind of thing.
Then there were those who criticized Marla because she said teachers should get unemployment compensation during the summer time when they are not working. I know some of your blood runs red when I say this, but workers in other industries get unemployment when they are idle. But $54,000 for ten months work is a lot of money, you say? It does souund like a lot of money, but for a primary breadwinner there may not be enough money left to get through the summer. My father was a university professor and our family was broke during the summers unless he could teach summer classes. And $54,000 is not a lot of money for a person who has trained professionally. In any case, if Marla gets to the legislature we’ll see where her proposal goes. Teachers are not that well compensated for the very hard work they do, and I have worked as a teacher, so I know what I am talking about. They don’t need to have their reputations trashed publicly just because one of them won an election. I mean really, some people don’t have any decency and feel that free speech is a license to dump on others. I say, walk in that other person’s shoes before you are ready to trash their reputations.
Now as for progressive Democrats, I am proud to call myself one of them and I salute Marla Posey-Moss for openly calling herself one. Progressive Democrats fought for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, civil rights, nuclear test ban, nuclear disarmament talks, they helped sponsor the United Nations which is charged with trying to keep peace in the world, the Peace Corps, the minimum wage, federal aid to education, and on and on. Yet there are some people who never knew this and are content with slurring anyone who is of a progressive bent. There are a lot of these so-called Tea-Party people who collect unemployment, Social Security, Medicare, food stamps, etc. who will condemn the very people who fought to have these programs available. Now before you go and say that this is just more welfare for the poor, and the poor are undeserving, realize that the gap between the rich and the poor continues to grow in this country, with the rich 2% owning more than 40% of the wealth, and the middle class shrinking. If we have an effective safety net for those who are not making it, that shows we are a better country than if we didn’t. Do you want more homeless people sleeping on streets and eating out of trash cans?
Now, I have to say that I always thought my good friend Dan Riley was a progressive Democrat. We worked together on environmental issues that would have him pegged as a progressive, but I noticed in this article that he was calling himself a blue dog Democrat and a conservative. Dan is a very smart guy, and I give him credit for a lot of things, but in this he was a little too clever by half in order to court the right wing nut jobs. Marla Posey-Moss came out and said what she is. She was honest about that. Dan would have looked a little bigger if he’d come out and said he was supporting Marla’s election rather than saying she would lose the seat to the Republicans. He comes across as a sore loser from a tough loss and perhaps that is a little too much to expect from him. But I support Marla and she deserves the support of the voters and Democrats especially, and she supports a lot of the things Dan supports so I don’t know why he wouldn’t support her. She will be a fine legislator if she gets to Annapolis, and I hope she does.
In the meantime, I hope some voters would not be so cruel and understand that all teachers work hard, it’s not possible to be one without working hard. We have a public education system that all children have access to, and all teachers are degreed and certified, which means they had to work hard to get those credentials. Just remember, as football coach Mike McCormack once said, when you point a finger at someone else, there are three fingers pointing back at you.
Hello Everyone,
This is a guy (Boardman) who has run for office a number of times and always lost. He’s admitted to being a progressive democrat so anything he writes should be considered liberal babble. Here’s what you should consider when deciding who to vote for this election year: If you want to lose more of your rights and pay higher taxes, then vote for the democrat. If you want to save your state and country from the likes of progressive democrats (you already have enough evidence to see the problems caused by them), keep taxes as low as possible, and preserve your Consitutional rights, you know the right thing to do. As to Ms. Moss, Posey, or whatever her name is, besides being a progress democrat, people who have posted here and know her personally have provided compelling evidence why she should not be representing us in Annapolis. As to Mr. Boardman . . . he’s just on another planet.
Christopher Boardman, I just wanted to point out that you either didn’t read all of my posts or didn’t understand them. Ms. Posey-Moss only spent one year at the schools she taught because she is not a good teacher. In fact, she is the worst teacher we have ever come across. The principals did not want her at their schools. She does NOT earn my respect for being terrible at her job. Although I did not speak to every parent who had a child in the class, I spoke to many. You suggested I should have spoken to every child and I think that would be inappropriate. The principal had to regrade the entire class’ papers because she graded them incorrectly. There is no way a parent could help their child with a problem like that. And this is the only time I have ever heard of a principal having to regrade papers and change grades. It is also the only time I have seen an entire class kept together so the next teaher could teach the students what the previous teaher, Ms. Posey-Moss, should have taught them but didn’t. Teachers need to know the subject matter well enough to grade papers correctly, she did not. You can blame the students if you choose, but I can tell you my son had Ms. Posey-Moss for spanish 1. After the principal regraded his papers he received a C in the class. He did not learn much spanish at all. What he did learn he learned from his text book. The following year he took spanish 2 with a different teacher. This teacher had to teach spanish 1 and 2 combined, which was unfair to the students AND the teacher. This teacher should not have had to do extra work to cover for Ms. Posey- Moss’ incompetence. My son earned an A in spanish 2.
I am not a teacher but I have been a substitute. Not the same, but I do know what you mean about children misbehaving in class. That was NOT the problem in her classes. If you read the posts you will find a parent who had to fill in to teach her German classes because she wasn’t qualified to teach German either. She was very lazy, she was unprepared for classes, she couldn’t grade papers because she didn’t even understand the subject she was teaching. I think this says a lot about the way she will legislate.
As far as her asking for unemployment for teachers over the summer months, it has nothing to do with a teacher’s salary. The problem she apparently didn’t even consider is that if teachers were to collect unemployment pay they would need to be unemployed. They would lose their seniority and tenure, which I think is actually a good thing. If a teacher is tenured and then stops caring about their job, they should be able to be fired. That is, if you care about the education system. If your first priority is teachers, then I can see why you wouldn’t agree with this. My concern is for the students. They would also have to give up their benefits for the summer. They would have to pay the full cost of their health insurance over the summer through the cobra program. They can’t collect unemployment and still collect their benefits. Whether you agree or disagree with her proposal, it is ridiculous that she never even thought out the consequences. Then again, with her teaching record, this shouldn’t be a surprise.
Unless you had a child in her class, you cannot imagine the incompetence! You can say that you don’t believe it is so, but you really have no basis for that statement. This is truly something that you would have to experience to believe.
As I ended my previous comments, when you point one finger, three fingers are pointing back at you.
I read all of your previous comments and was impressed with how poisonous they were. You are carrying on a personal vendetta and that is nothing to be proud of. Try to find some good things to say about even the people you don’t like–they were made by the same Creator that made you, and you don’t do anyone any service when you tarnish their reputations.
I would suggest if your child wants to get better at Spanish, he work harder at it. Learning a foreign language is not easy. Whether someone learns it has more to do with the student than the teacher. There are many ways he could get better at it. It’s a language I wish I knew better. I have studied French, German, Russian and Arabic, but I can only speak some German and Russian now.
If you spoke Arabic, would you be proficient at Chinese? Of course not if you hadn’t studied it. That the schools would ask her to teach German when her specialty was Spanish shows how little thought and care the schools put into foreign language instruction. But we are at a time when a lot of people don’t think the study of foreign languages is important, after all, all everyone else in the world has to do is learn English! It shows how culturally ignorant many many Americans are. We are really the losers when we don’t learn other languages because we don’t have the other perspectives that the other languages bring.
I happen to like Marla Posey-Moss a lot and it hurts me when I see someone abuse her and her reputation. I hope she gets elected, I think she has a positive message to bring to the public. You are entitled to disagree and I respect that. But don’t abuse her, and show a little humility. Your comments are in the public arena now and you should weigh your words carefully.
Sandy obviously has a personal vendetta against all of Harford County Public Schools — or at least any of the employees of HCPS who did not agree or bend down to her opinions of how things should be run. Her posts on EVERY thread are disparaging to the county school system and stem from her not getting her way when she would go to an administrator and compain. She thinks that she knows best and will not accept that there are some people who are actually trained to be educators might possibly know better.
Her comments here and elsewhere should be disregarded.
Christopher Boardman, you most certainly have a flair for the dramatic. All funny finger pointing quotes aside, I am not abusing anyone. You seem to forget that no one who knows her as a teaher has said anything but agreed with her laziness. Yes, kids can learn on their own. My son got an A in spanish 2 with another teacher because he studied his text book. Using your logic, we should fire all of our teachers. I mean, the kids should learn on their own, so why, exactly, were we paying her to teach. She also couldn’t grade papers. How, exactly, are the kids supposed to overcome that? Do you really think we should have teachers who grade so poorly that the principal has to regrade the papers. She didn’t understand the subject, she graded correct answers wrong because she didn’t know the correct answers. Really, she didn’t know what she expected the kids to know. How can you seriously defend that? Do you really feel that we don’t need teachers or were you just off on a rant and didn’t realize what you were saying?
Yes, this is a public arena, that’s why it’s called public comment. See how that works?
Sandy obviously has a personal vendetta against all of Harford County Public Schools — or at least any of the employees of HCPS who did not agree or bend down to her opinions of how things should be run. Her posts on EVERY thread are disparaging to the county school system and stem from her not getting her way when she would go to an administrator and complain. She thinks that she knows best and will not accept that there are some people who are actually trained to be educators might possibly know better.
Her comments here and elsewhere should be disregarded.
John, you are so wrong. Sandy has the facts and has seen her (Posey) in action. She knows what she is talking about and most here support her comments. Time for you and Boardman to quit drinking the Obama cool-aid. The last thing this state needs is Ms. Posey in Annapolis (or any other progressives adding to the gang of misfits).
Well, Sandy says she has seen Posey-Moss in action. But who really knows? Sounds very much like a personal vendetta to me.
Yet another baseless response . . . add Watcher to the Boardman – John club. Sandy gave facts based on observations, you gave nothing but speculation.
My point was that she said it was based on observation. But no way to prove that. So zip it.
Watcher WINS!
Watcher, you’re so right… “based on observation” phh.. what kind of a world would this be if we went around believing what we see with our own eyes? She probably made the whole story up… probably doesn’t even have kids. Or it was her cat that was in Spanish class. We know there are no incompetent teachers because they’d be fired in a heartbeat. Same as how there are no liberal or conservative teachers that would push their ideology on impressionable students.
One Who knows, thanks for pointing that out. It’s so funny to me that the only people who defend Ms. Posey-Moss are those who don’t know anything about her. Actions do indeed speak louder than words, but they obviously are more interested in what she says than what she does. They can choose to hide their heads in the sand, but that seems so strange to me. Why wouldn’t anyone be interested to hear about her actions so they can do their research instead of blindly following someone they know nothing about? I could understand if someone wrote in that they have had a different experience with her, but that hasn’t happened. Everyone who has dealt with her has agreed with me. Maybe they can’t face the fact that they fell for political speech? That is pretty embarrassing when there is so much info out there about her. They obviously didn’t do any research before they voted. Maybe there is another reason that they aren’t telling us? I haven’t even mentioned politics, just that she was an extremely lazy and incompetent teacher. Even some teachers agreed so I have no idea why they think I am just acting on a vendetta. That is actually pretty funny. I wouldn’t vote for someone with those credentials and as someone who cares about the county I think everyone should go to the poles informed. Shame on me, LOL. And anyway, how could anyone take someone seriously if they say “when you point at someone there are 3 fingers pointing back at yourself” I mean, if they aren’t in middle school anymore. Sticks and stones can break my bones…do you know that one too, Mr. Boardman?
I have heard Ms Posey’s stump speech several times. It is exactly the same every time. She does not have a grasp of the issues. She is a one trick pony that just whines about a banking regulation that hardly affects anyone except those that can’t or won’t manage their personal finances. And that is clearly the electorate she is targeting. The problem for her is that this is the same group that doesn’t usually show up on election day. At least lets hope not or we will all be sorry and wishing we had Dan Riley back.
Watcher, congrats on your win. Can you share what you won? I went back and re read and couldn’t find anything about a contest. Or is that something you just made up?
As far as me not being able to prove I had a child in her class, sat in during American Ed. week, had conferences with her, and had meetings with the principal, I don’t really care if you believe me. What do you think my motive would be for saying I believe she would be a poor legislator if you don’t think I know anything about her? That doesn’t make any sense at all. I’m not sure what you think the word vendetta means, but why would I have one against someone I have never met? Your logic makes no sense. And why would there be parents, a grandparent, and other teachers who agree with what I saw? Try a little harder to make sense and we may be able to talk about it. How about stating with some reason you don’t believe I’ve ever met with Ms Posey-Moss? I’ve explained why I feel the way I do about her, over and over, because posters like you keep questioning me about it. How about backing up why you don’t think I’ve met her, had conferences, and had a child in her class?
John, what are you talking about? Ms. Posey-Moss is the only teacher I had a problem with. There is 1 person in upper management that is doing a poor job, who is more interested in his career than he is about doing what is right for the students. And there are 2 BOE members, who are no longer there, who I had a problem with because they lied. All I asked for was honesty and they couldn’t manage to tell the truth. I did not like the way there was NO oversite of the school board, but that has finally changed. That’s it. None of it had anything to do with not getting my way. If you would like to give me an example I’ll be happy to explain why I felt that way. But I don’t think you really want to do that since you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
She is a one-trick pony and would be a yes-vote for the O’Malley spending plan. Do you have any doubts about that?
Sandy,
You clearly have no idea how your rants against HCPS come across to others reading these forums.
I could take the time to go back and dig out quotes you have made about the “horrible” teachers or administrators with “attitudes” that did not bend to your will, however that would be a waste of time as you obviously don’t realize that your negative viewpoint is pert of the problem that your children did not get the great education that students have the opportunity to receive in Harford County.
YOu can try to justify your negativity all you want, but your posts make you sound like a terribly sour person who is bitter that you don’t always get your way.
Amen!
John, You either are making things up or you have me mixed up with someone else. Like I said, give me an example. I’m happy to explain. Clearly, you can’t.
“One Who Knows” (???) but writes anonymously because he is not confident of his own point of view can bad mouth and disparage anyone. Yes I have run and lost in political campaigns before but that is more than can be said for you because you are hiding under a rock and sniping at others. I campaigned against the bloated military in my race for Congress because the Pentagon and Congress spend over $700 billion a year on defense,more than the combined military budgets of all the other nations in the world. With all you say about tax and spending you having nothing to say about this? You ought to listen to Rep. Ron Paul. We sqaunder $200 million a day on the war in Afghanistan and claim we are fighting for…..what?…and the bitter fruit we reap is anger from other countries around the world and thousands of wounded and dead soldiers. We need to stop being so arrogant and work on building peace. But I suppose that is hard for ditto heads to understand as their brains are filled with the drivel of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck who preach hate for anyone different from them. And this is all because a Spanish teacher is working to broaden young minds with a foreign language and some tea partiers are angry because she won a primary election? Please!
Sorry Mr. Boardman. Ms. Posey-Moss isn’t working to broaden any minds, she wasn’t working at all. She didn’t know the subject matter she expected the kids to know. She calls herself a Spanish teacher, but she knows so little about it that she literally couldn’t grade the papers correctly. The principal had to do that after he was able to get rid of her. If she were working to help anyone, she would have been learing with the kids, at the very least. Not only did she not plan her lessons and learn the information ahead of time, she didn’t even try to learn it as the kids were learning it. You are wrong when you say she was working to broaden young minds. There was no learning going on in her class, she didn’t care enough to learn what she was supposed to be teaching the students. Everything they learned, they learned on their own that year, and from the spanish 2 teacher the following year. How would you like to have been the spanish 2 teacher who had to teach both classes in 1 year? That isn’t fair to that teacher or to the students.
I think you’ve made your points, and you’ve also told us that you’re not a very nice person either. Let the school systems handle their own personnel policies. I don’t think they put much value on your contributions as you are a substitute teacher. No one should buy into your defamation of character modus operandi. Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself, and I am ashamed for you, but you are so into your hatred you cannot see what you have become. I will pray for you.
Christopher, I think that unfair… I didn’t get any “not a nice person” vibe here. “Sandy” is either an average citizen sharing her opinion (which is after all why we’re here) or doing such a marvelous impersonation for our enjoyment that I would suggest a career in writing – better yet advertising, no wait… deceptive political campaign rhetoric. I have followed this thread and when she stated her experiences with this teacher she was immediately set upon by those who would work to marginalize her opinion. Frankly, if asked to predict the probability of truthfulness between an average citizen and a political candidate I’m going to go out on a limb and go with the average citizen. Please include a prayer for me.
Give it up. Sandy has first hand knowledge and your liberal bablle won’t make it here (or anywhere).
I stand correct – “Liberal babble”
Actually, I think the point is that we have no idea if Sandy has first hand knowledge or not. People can write anything on this board. As a matter of fact, the other day I saw Michael Steele and Howard Dean swimming together at the Bel Air Athletic Club and then they enjoyed a large pizza and cuddled under a blanket.
See? Just because I write something I supposedly saw doesn’t mean it’s true.
Watcher WINS!
Watcher, my point is that some statements strain credulity and some do not. As evinced in your example. While some believe whatever the candidate of their preferred party says, some like myself view all political candidates with skepticism. The idea of trusting a politician is alien to me. However, you’ve opened my eyes to the fact that I’ve been wasting my time with point-counterpoint, facts, comparisons and examples to win a debate… apparently all I ever had to do was announce “I WIN” at the end of my opening statement. Thanks.
Mr. Boardman, No, I will NEVER not be involved in my children’s education. That is one of the most irresponsible suggestions I’ve heard in a long time. I care about my children and their education and I will always be involved.
Hatred? I never said I hated anyone. Where, exactly, did you get that from? I was posting to let others know about her laziness and incompetence. It’s a political debate, no hatred, at least on my end. And to be clear, I used to be a substitute teacher. I stay home now and babysit my great niece and a dear friend’s baby to help them. It’s so hard for young parents to get a start in this economy.
Sincerely, all prayers are very much appreciated. I am very sick and housebound most of the time. I truly appreciate your prayers.
Daedalus, thanks for the laugh, I wish you would post more often! Your post was hysterical. Seriously, I’m not a very good writer, I’m just a very involved mom and have worked a lot to make the school system better for all of our children. Most of my efforts are in vain as no one on the school board had any interest in what any parents had to say. Let’s hope that changes now! I can’t get out so often anymore, but I keep up with sending emails, making phone calls, and doing my best that way. I used to attend most school board meetings and can guarantee I know a lot more about how the school system works than my attackers. Much of what they write lets me know that they really have NO idea of how the schools in Harford County are run. It’s really amusing to me to read how much they think they know when they are so clueless. And by volunteering in the schools almost every day, you get a lot of information that you wouldn’t get otherwise.
I appreciate you posting you don’t think I’m nasty. I find it really odd the way a few people who don’t know Ms. Posey-Moss at all defend her in such an illogical way. It’s funny because, just as she is incompetent, they are incompete in judging her, they honestly have no clue how the school system works. They are either very uninvolved parents or they haven’t had a child go through the school system. They have no idea who they are defending so I have to wonder why they are so indignant about it. They don’t have anything good to say about her, they just find it necessary to argue with my post. Really weird!
I’ve re read Watchers posts and think I might have to just let them slide. I think he may be a child himself, high school, maybe early college, and I don’t want to get into too much of a debate like this with a child. I had to laugh at your “Watcher Wins” comment. Seriously, no adult would write that, or at least I hope not! Then again, neither would most children. He is an odd character for sure.
Watcher, are you implying everything you have posted is a lie? If you are implying that I am lying you are wrong. Try backing up your accusations, that’s an important part of a debate.
Sandy – you are too dumb to debate. All you did was say “I saw this” and “I saw that.” But there is NO WAY of verifying if what you said is true. THAT was my point the entire time. If you don’t like her, DON’T VOTE FOR HER. Even you can grasp a concept as simple as that.