From Maryland State Police:
On November 1, 2009 at approximately 01:22 a.m. troopers from the Bel Air Barrack responded to Tully’s Bar located at 2403 Belair Road, Fallston, Md. to assist the Harford County Sheriff’s office with a fight in progress.
Upon arrival it was learned that one of the confrontations involved a Tyrell Lamont YOUNG (B/M, 22 yoa, Edgewood resident) who had been removed from the establishment by security. Upon walking towards the rear of the establishment this suspect became involved in another fight with security. Tfc. W. Johnson observed the altercation and immediately apprehended YOUNG and shortly afterwards Sgt. J. Kloiber received information that YOUNG allegedly stabbed a subject inside the bar. Further information was later developed concerning a second suspect, Douglas Reginald GREEN (B/M, 25 yoa, Aberdeen resident), being a participant in the crime.
Simultaneous to the stabbing a number of additional unrelated altercations were occurring which were handled by the Harford County Sheriff’s Office. To assist in stabilizing the incident on-scene personnel called for assistance from law enforcement agencies from surrounding jurisdictions. Law enforcement personnel from the Maryland State Police North East Barrack, JFK Barrack, Bel Air Police Department and the Baltimore County Police Department responded to assist.
The stabbing victim is identified as David Swedo, 26 yoa, Bel Air resident. Swedo had sustained several stab wounds to his back. The victim is currently in stable condition at Bayview Hospital, Baltimore, Md.
Accused # 1: Tyrell Lamont Young, B/M, 22 yoa, Charges: Attempted 1st and 2nd Degree Murder; 1st and 2nd Degree Assault (several counts); Reckless Endangerment.
Accused #2: Douglas Reginald Green, B/M, 25 yoa, Charges: Accessory After the Fact of the following: Attempted 1st and 2nd Degree Murder; 1st and 2nd Degree Assault; Reckless Endangerment
take the pookies back to the ghetto and put a razor wire, electrified fence around it!!!!! ENOUGH!! time for open carry!
….and you might be a redneck if…
you know i remember when tullys first open it was called the port and they did pat downs and dress code which kept alot of the riff raff out and the security back then werent aholes they were nice and funny and polite (well all except that one that choked me ) but i deserved it see thats why i kept going there afterwards cause i talked to him and the manager and all was well they were people about it not some young wanna be manager who thinks having a bar gives him the right to be king shit on turd mountain i say what happen to all those rules and that staff bring them back you didnt have any trouble then
you know i also found out that guns are carried in and out of that bar why cause of the lack of security and what is meant by that is all the checks that were done im not saying every bar doesnt have its problems but in all something gets done about noy at the new tullys why because hc aka lance the manager is more worried about trying to hide things from the liquor board … i find it very funny that now after the so called new management (a wanna be photographer who should of died two yrs ago ) and a little kid all this trouble starts i say bring back the old manage mentr with the old staff and let them clean house again and then see how much trouble you have
sorry but I’m not Lance …i know him an im pretty sure he was the manager during the last year or so of The Port days…an ive never see any guns carried in there and yes they do do pat downs so if your could please get your facts straigh the next time you post on here that would be fantastic
Yeah, I knew the manager and the security staff at the Port too…. and quite frankly, they were assholes. The manager couldn’t manage his way out of a wet paper bag – he was always feeble and sickly and wasn’t even around half the time… definitely not a man who should have been in a management position. The staff were so rude and mean to everyone that they turned away any decent crowd they ever managed to bring in. With the exception of a couple of them, they were all egotistical meatheads with ridiculous lame tattoos, my experiences with them proved that they worked there for one reason and one reason only: to fight people. I found this out first hand by talking to one of the good security staff members (who, needless to say, quit because of the rest of the staff); he told me most of them worked there so they could punch people out at every opportunity.
The Port was also riddled with drug and violence issues, so don’t even get on here and post your garbage about how Tully’s is problematic compared to the Port. I have a close relationship with Lance and Johnny and they are both ambitious, professional gentlemen, they run circles around the old staff.
If you had such a great relationship with the old staff, “tossed out”, name the manager and some of the security guards? Bet ya cant. Don’t post slander if you can’t support your claims. My point exactly.
Yea…that’ll work….
beside your racial slur……you do realize that a fence is not going to keep crime isolated to one part of the county. The problem is a result of years of neglect of a section of the county. Removing it will take a while and need to be a group effort.
They need to yank the liquor license from that property. It’s a breeding ground for fights and stabbings. Enough is enough.
#1, we had no fights for 4 consecutive weekends.
#2, when a fight does happen, they are barred for life, period.
#3, it wasn’t a stabbing, a safety box cutter will not stab, it will cut but not stab.
Wow… four consecutive weekends… is that supposed to impress us??!! Try going a year and then get back to me! And I apologize for the stabbings comment but a “safety box cutter” can cause a laceration severe enough to warrant medical attention. You’re talking semantics at this point. Either clean the place up or shut it down!
you tell me of a large bar or club that hasn’t had a fight in a year…..your living in a fantasy world my friend
While I obviously think Tully’s needs to clean their act up, expecting any bar or nightclub to go a year without any fights is unrealistic.
unless you are a racest belair bar that selects the race of there crowd like on does on thursday nights… this could have happened at a school or a mall… dont put it on one bar…
response to TUlly’s
Your full of it.I live behind your mad house and I hear sirens every weekend. This place was decent before you new people came along and brought your riff raff crowd. It used to be a nice decent place where nothing EVER happened in the 3 1/2 years I have lived here and went there. I hope they shut you down and I hope they are quick about irt before someone gets killed!
yea you know your right…..MO’s Deep Six was decent….you are crazy!
HC……….
I’m not an idiot, I know there are other places had their issues. What I am saying is I have heard more sirens an the last 5 months then in the last 3 1/2 years I have lived there. Yes all bars have thier issues and very few and far in between that dont.
BelAir resident….
Since you live in BelAir and not Fallston behind this establishment I doubt you really know what is going on ALL weekend long every weekend.
Yes 1 and 152 is a big intersection and yes i do hear alot of sirens but you can also see form my window through the trees where these sirens are going.
DW.. thank you, I knew I wasn’t imagining the sirens!
o now you change it to 5 months instead of 3 1/2 years yea now i really think your and idiot please just keep your 2 cents to yourself an go on with your life
Yeah the port was pretty riddled with police issues. 152’s was riddled with police issues, Mo’s was HORRIBLY riddled with police issues, so dont even say that the location was fine before tully’s lol. and if you live behind tully’s and hear sirens… you must be dillusional because the police don’t use their sirens when responding to calls like that.
go to looney’s any friday and saturday night and tell me who you see sitting outside. bel air police.
I got news for you…when the police get a call for a fight in progress, especially at Tully’s, you better believe they’re coming lights and sirens unless they’re already right around the corner.
As for BAPD sitting outside Looney’s and the other bars in Bel Air town, with all due respect to them, they patrol something like 3 sq miles. They do frequently back up HCSO/MSP for major calls outside of the town, but their main responsibility is a small area. HCSO on the other hand typically has 2 or 3 officers covering an area 20x+ that size and they can’t just park themselves outside of Tully’s every weekend.
I think the police sitting outside of Looney’s are there primarly to deter people from drinking and driving. I don’t think they are there with the intent to break up the random bar scuffle that last less than 2 seconds at that bar. I could be wrong tho.
i think u need to look an see how Looney’s an Magerk’s security do business their “2 second fight” ends with them throwing the person out an then calling the cops….and yes this is Every Time…must be easy to have your own private police force
you have to understand you live at route 1 and 152 this is a major intersection and the state police are down the street so when you hear them it dont mean there coming to tullys
I’ve said it a million times, and I’ll say it again… I have been a frequent to Tully’s for the past several months… 2 times per week on some occasions. I have been there twice when the cops have been called by the security staff… and they have not come “lights and sirens blazing”. They pull up to the parking lot, park their vehicle, and deal with the situation. Clean and orderly.
…….breeding ground…..really…..it’s a bar! let’s enforce prohibition again…that should solve everything
I agree w/ common sense, that place is nothing but trouble and should be shut down. My friends went there for their first time and last time not too long ago. They were there for a few hours and witnessed two fights. I’ll never step foot in that place, all the ghetto trash from Joppa, Edgewood, and Aberdeen go there. I’m just glad they caught the two idiots.
Every fight that has occurred both parties get barred for life. We cant help it when we get more stupid people who dont know how to act when they are drinking, it’s not our fault. All the people who have been in fights, are no longer allowed back.
And for the truth, I was there bar tending and the guy had a box cutter, I saw the weapon personally. A box cutter that retailers use to open freight with. And they guy got cut not stabbed, over exaggeration
Ive seen box cutter’s used to kill people and do severe damage where amputations ended up being done on victims!
box cutters or not this could have happened anywhere….its not like any bars in harford county do pat downs so there can be weapons in any bar at any time….and even if you did a broken beer bottle can replace a knife in an instant
So are you trying to say that you are at greater risk of dying if you are stabbed as opposed to cut? I’m pretty sure you can do just as much damage or even more by cutting a vein or artery.
Banning people for life doesn’t solve the problem. The solution has to be something that prevents the fights from even starting.
Its not like a fight @ Tully’s is a one time event, as others said this is a chronic problem that the establishment is facing and is wasting the law enforcement resources by having them come out so often.
it is a chronic problem for any bar ….that is not just a singled out issue
Like I stated in my post below, I have been going to Tully’s for months and this is only the second time I have personally seen the police there. So I’m not sure where you people are getting your facts…
You must just not be there when the police show up. Trust me, they’re responding there almost every weekend.
thats funny im there every weekend and they arent there every weekend. so please get your facts straight
I am there every weekend as well… and they are not.
i don’t know of any people who know how to act when they’re drinking. it’s the nature of the stuff. sounds like you need some new rules/security.
ok lets make it a juice bar…..gimme a break
Thats Bull I personal know someone that CAUSED a fight and was there the next week
I hope you are not thinking only “Ghetto Trash” lives in those 3 areas? After all the victim was from Bel Air. There is lots of “Ghetto Trash” to go around and there are plenty of people in the three communities that you mentioned that are not “Ghetto Trash”
I’m not thinking only Ghetto Trash lives in those 3 areas, they live throughout the county but are dense in the section 8 housing around those areas of the Rt 40 corridor. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were the people displaced by the Baltimore City renovations and had to move east. If this is the case, just imagine what BRAC will do if the RT. 40 corridor gets renovated as well. All the crime/gangs will make their way North towards Bel Air. I’m not saying there isn’t crime throughout the county already.
The victim was from Bel Air… but did he even know the 2 guys who attacked him or was this random? Did they have an argument before?
the victom was defending his girlfriend who had been grabbed by one of the guys arrested
amen. it’s everywhere.
I say leave it open so that we know where all the trouble is. If you close it, it will disperse to Main St. (already starting to)
yea no fights at any other bars ever im sure……you much just spend time in your basement bar
I’ve been there 4 times and seen a fight every time. No fights in my basement bar, just your momma.
go to Loony’s on Friday an Saturday when then have big local band the attract young people…….let me know what you see
The problem is it’s a huge drain on police resources. Every weekend the sheriff’s office and msp end up sending several officers there to handle fights, assaults, etc. Last night there ended up being about 35 officers plus an aviation unit at Tully’s. If they instituted a dress code and limited how many people they let inside it would probably alleviate some of the problems, but the owner isn’t willing to do so. It was the same problem when it was the Port Royal…got shut down and then reopened a month or so later as Tully’s. Same owner (I think), same problems. If this incident doesn’t get their license yanked by the liquor board, I’m pretty sure it won’t take many more before it happens and hopefully this time it won’t be reissued. It happened to The Edge and that place has been shut down ever since. It’s only a matter of time before it happens to Tully’s unless they clean the place up themselves.
you seem to think you know alot about this place an wat goes on (i think)
I do.
ok well then you should know how much easier it is for Bel Air bars to deal with their problem since they have their own police force that has nothing to do at 2am but just sit and wait for the bars to clear out…..an that is a fact!….next on your list….every weekend cops ar called for fights and assults….nice try…..thre is a dress code that was implimed 2 weeks ago….as you can probably imagine it is impossible to have a dress code on Halloween (and what do you think that people that fight all look like they are in a gang..think again)…there is never a proble with to many people inside if they let everyone in then there wouldnt be a 1hr wait to get inside the place…and why would that be because people have to wait for other people to leave so that they can finally go inside….the other incident you are refering to happened 5 miles down the road in Joppa……there you go just thought id help give you some correct information
HC, I’m a police officer so I have a feeling I know what I’m talking about. For the record, The Edge was in Edgewood, not Joppa…not that it really matters. We had the same problems there that we’re having at Tully’s.
well if you really are a police officer than you took an oath to protect and serve……that means to help. NOT hoping that an establishment gets shut down just because you dont like it. You should be ashamed of yourself and im really sorry that you are even a police officer…why dont you go be a mall cop im sure youll find that job alot less demading since you seem to not be able to handel this one.
I agree. The police are sitting and waiting at all main street bars, ready to act upon anything that comes their way. The bars do not need to call Bel Air police because they are already there… waiting. But when Tully’s has to call the police, it gets published everywhere and Tully’s gets the bad rep. You of all people should be backing up Tully’s in this case because you know first hand how efficiently the security staff deals with these kinds of issues. Personally, I would love it if a patrol car sat outside of Tully’s every weekend… that way they would not get the bad rep when they need to make the call… you’re already there to protect.
There are fights and incidents at almost every bel air bar almost EVERY single weekend… yet we dont hear about that in the paper… we only hear about the one fight a month at Tully’s.
Admittedly I shouldn’t have said the place should be shut down. That was said out of frustration and I apologize.
While it would be nice if MSP or the HCSO had enough officers working to have someone sit on the parking lot every weekend, that’s simply not realistic given the number of officers and the size of the area we have to patrol. If Tully’s wants to have a patrol car or two on the lot every weekend they would need to set up a reimbursement detail with MSP or the HCSO and pay officers OT to sit there. Several apartment complexes and neighborhoods already do that and it has cut down dramatically the number of problems in those areas (and when there is a problem, the deputies working the detail handle it which keeps regular patrol available to handle other issues.)
thank you problem solved
DW if your a cop then why are you on here starting more trouble.. is it because you are one of the harford county cops that were in the parking lot provocing the croud with dogs and batons.. or is it because you couldnt be out sleeping in your car in the edgewood trailor park wasting police recorces and tax payer money. did you actualy have to work for once.. and if you are a cop why dont you id yourself so we know who the officer is that is dicriminating against lower class peaple……
cw….dogs and batons…..provocing?….first off learn how to spell. and this isn’t selma or birmingham….the cops were doing their job get over it you punk ***. Stop acting like animals and this wouldn’t happen.
The Port never shut down………………..the name just changed over night
Dress codes wont do anything, when stupid people want to act stupid, they can be dressed in tuxedos and still act like an ass. We are going to try the dress codes again but we are starting a new rule where you start a fight, charges will be filed and you will be barred. That will posted when you walk in.
Good start but just know it only works if you really mean it!
all you have to do is just give no waring if they break a rule they are done simple as that…its like babysitting
If people have to adhere to a specific dress code (say shirts tucked in and pants not falling off your ass as an example) it sends a message that you’re trying to attract a higher quality clientele and some of the garbage goes elsewhere which helps to cut down on problems. Not packing as many people as you can squeeze inside the place also would be an improvement. There will still be problems, but for the most part the bouncers should be able to keep things from getting out of hand usually.
I’m just curious exactly what charges you’re going to file against people who start fights in your bar. Unless they actually attack you personally or damage your property I think you’re pretty much limited to disturbing the peace. You can certainly ban individuals by contacting the sheriff’s office and getting a banning letter served on them. If they come back after that they can be locked up on scene by any officer or you can charge them with trespassing yourself. Getting a banning letter served makes it easier for charges to stick in court rather than just telling someone they’re banned without anything backing it up.
Regarding the dress code… have you ever been to bourbon street on a thursday night? or friday or saturday for that matter? they have one of the strictest dress codes (of all “middle class” bars and clubs) I have ever seen. Yet… every single weekend there are huge ridiculous fights. The dress code doesnt solve problems, nor does adding a bouncer for every 10 people in the club.
I’m getting tired of saying it… it was Halloween night. there were fights in every single bar. some worse than others. this fight just happened to be at tully’s and now they are suffering a bad rep from it. the security staff did their job by removing the patrons involved from the club and letting the police deal with it. end of story, lets move on.
Tully’s had the bad rep before this happened. This time it just got published on The Dagger.
sorry there were not fights at every single bar. You are very mistaken. Moes/Port/tullys has been for years a spot to go to buy cocaine, at least thats where my friends got it.
Buy cocaine? Please. There are atleast 10 bouncers on staff during club nights. Not to mention the bouncers who sit by the bathrooms patrolling everyone who enters and exits. Port was the same way… AND they had pat downs at the door!!! Moes had a horrible rep… so I dont doubt that about Moes.
And you’re telling me that you made your way to every single bar in Harford County? So you know this? Give me a break dude… Halloween night? Every bar in the country was jam packed.
Tullys wont be open to much longer the way they are going, My Daughter go’s there quite often and comes home stating she is 21 there, She turns 21 next month, The door men and bouncers are not doing there jobs properly and its gonna chatch up to Tullys
Not doing their jobs properly….i believe your not doing your job properly….since your daughter obviously has a fake id im sure she is getting into every bar….and yet you still allow this to happen…i think you and her need to sit down and have a talk….or else clearly it is not that big of a deal for you that she is doing this since you continue to allow this to happen
im not sure this is even worth commenting on! haha! exactly, talking about the security not doing their job! you are a “concerned father” who knows his underage daughter is managing to get into bars? i got news for you… if she can get into tully’s, she can get into any bar in the state. tully’s confiscates more fake IDs than any other bar in the county and you can check that fact with the liquor control board. Instead of being a “concerned father” and posting your bull**** on forums, you need to reevaluate your parenting skills and think about things before you say them. Then talk to your daughter about going to the bar. Ridiculous!
Thats the problem In my eyes, She has no fake ID, They dont have have not asked for ID{Not doing thier job}I never said she was drinking either, Its a 18 and over club that allows minors in as 21, Why am I explaining anything to you,
no it is an 18 over club that allows minors in as under 21….an yes she would have to show her id to get into the club…facts are facts an so far none of yours adding up
Minors get huge black X’s on their hands, people over 21 get a wristband AND a unique stamp on their hand that differs every single night. If they have neither, they are not served alcohol. If they are caught drinking, they are immediately kicked out… I’VE SEEN IT HAPPEN! Instead of being a “concerned father” sitting at home complaining on message board, maybe you should venture in and see for yourself and do some REAL parenting!
Isn’t part of the reason for the dress code about gangs and gang activity? I see nothing wrong with a dress code especially if it is barring head gear or something along that line that identifies gangs. Nothing wrong with banning certain attire if it is your bar …
How will the establishment know if someone comes in who is barred? Will the person at the door check them or what if it is another time during the week when there are no people working the door? Is there a list of people that everyone is made aware of? Just concerned that the size of the place might make it difficult to enforce that rule.
You know I can’t help but bring to your attention that it is the nature of any bar to have fights…Looney’s … Magerk’s… The Tower..all have fight. It is the nature of the bar business you rely on security to deal with that and if your read again security did handel the situation by getting the people out. there are just some things that are out of anyone’s control and at that point higher enforcement needs to be called on. You guys act like this is the only place that has problems. Now I know Harford Bel Air people don’t want anyone to think there is anything wrong with precious mainstreet but how quickly everyone forgets the off duty police officer smashing a bottle over someone’s head at Looney’s….or the man firing off gunshots in front of Magerk’s..no its ok to look over all of those things……..so why dont you guys just say what your really want to say…..YOU ABSOLUTLEY CAN’T STAND TO BE AROUND PEOPLE OF A DIFFERENT RACE AND THINK THAT ANYWHERE THAT THEY GO IS AUTOMATICALLY A PLACE FOR TROUBLE…..you guys all need to grow up and open your eyes!!!
I have lived in Bel Air my entire life, and have been a resident of the bar scene for quite some time now. I have seen fights in every single harford county bar establishment with a liquor license… some worse than others. Looneys has fights almost every weekend and their security does the same thing: handle the situation, move it out doors and let the police take care of things. I’ve seen bouncers from Magerks leap across the bar and punch out people in fights. The Tower is known for fights, and Freddies has had its share too. Every bar in this county has had (and still have) problems with fights. you mix alcohol and people with short tempers and thats what you get… its unavoidable.
As for Tully’s, I have been there countless times over the past few months and I will honestly say the place has really cleaned up its act. this is only the second incident I have seen there in a long time. The security is tough, but not threatening. The crowd has improved in terms of temperament and most everyone has a fun, safe time. You have to keep in mind: this was halloween weekend. Hundreds of party-goers packed into a club is just asking for an incident to occur. The security took care of the situation and the police handled it from there, period.
Increasing security or police force in and around bars is just another push at turning this country into a police-state. If you want to be monitored everywhere you go to ensure you are not susceptible to crime or violence, then hire some body guards. Do you want to live in a world where you are watched 24/7? I didnt think so. The same goes for bars.
If they are going to reissue a dress code, then fine, but coming from a local who has seen what has or has not gone down, I find it unnecessary and a violation of our freedoms.
How is having a dress code a violation of your freedoms? It’s a private business and if they want to have a dress code they’re certainly allowed to. The police, liquor board, gov’t, etc can’t force them to have a dress code. That’s a decision that’s up to the owner and if people don’t like it they can go elsewhere.
Eventually any place with problems takes steps to clean up its act, or gets shut down. Both have happened in Bel Air before. And, look at a place like (Dead) Freddie’s–it barely resembles the bar it was earlier this decade, for the better.
Obviously, any bar runs the risk of an altercation the moment it opens its doors and starts serving alcohol. I’ve seen fights or at least minor garbage at all of the places you mention. But when it becomes a chronic problem it can escalate to even more serious incidents very quickly. At least Tully’s apparently recognizes this and is doing something to try and fix it.
I don’t know about a fight at every Harford County bar: I’ve never seen anyone get a pint of Smithwick’s cracked over their head at Bolan’s…
I’m not sure that many of you guys and gals have enough experience at Tully’s, or know enough about the place to be making some of these statements. You read an article in the paper and immediately assume Tully’s is a horrible place full of violence and crime. Or you hear from a friend that there was a fight… so you make the decision never to step foot in the place.
As I said before, I have been a regular for months now and I can only name a couple times when there have been problems. And that specific problem was instantly dealt with appropriately by the security staff. In fact, I go on wednesdays and can’t even count on one hand how many “sketchy” looking people there are (ghetto, etc) in the entire place! Fridays and saturdays are the same! People go to dance and have a good time. Yeah there might be an argument or two every now and then, but name a bar that doesnt happen in.
And yes… I have seen a fight in Bolans. I was walking down main street from Looneys to Bolans on a friday night and there was a brawl in their entrance way.
The trash stay on RT.40 for the most part now. Tully’s is full of bel air and fallston residents, I’ve seen it first hand. Maybe you guys should come up on Wednesday and see for yourselves… then those of us who are backing up the place will consider your arguments valid.
Tully’s also draws alot of people from Edgewood, Joppa, Dundalk, Essex, etc.
Edgewood and Joppa, yes. Dundalk and essex? doubtful. You think the rif raf from that far away would venture to harford county to come to a bar? There are plenty of places in the city or close to the city that harbor the bulk of dundalk and essex.
there are very very nice places in edgewood and joppa, full of neighborhood close to the water, so it is not a negative fact that tully’s has a demographic from those two towns. Tully’s is central to fallston, perry hall, bel air, benson, jarrettsville, joppa, and edgewood. So perhaps 25% of the crowd are edgewood or joppa residents. That still does not justify people’s claims that the entire crowd is shady….
Bel Air also draws alot of people from Edgewood, Joppa, Dundalk, Essex, ect.
I should’ve been more specific regarding Edgewood. Brookside Drive, Edgewater Village, Windsor Valley, Harford Square, etc. Those are not the nice parts of Edgewood and Joppa.
Joppa for the most part isn’t bad and there are definitely some nice areas down there. Edgewood also has some nice areas and the vast majority of people down there are decent hard working citizens, but Edgewood (specifically the areas I just mentioned) also is one of the hot spots for drug and gang activity in the county and the people involved in that activity are going to Tully’s.
and also bars in bel air……i was seeing gang signs being thrown up in MaGerk’s this past Thursday so dont just single one place out
so are we supposed to tell people that live in edgewood they are not allowed there.. why are you being racest if your a cop…
Who said anything about race? I also didn’t say anything about people not being allowed at a particular bar because of the neighborhood they live in. You obviously have an agenda against the police and I’m not dignifying any of your other posts with responses, but feel free to spout off.
Once again, There are plenty of establishments with liquor licencess in Harford county that do not have fights. Bel air does not account for the entire county.
i would be very enlightened to hear of a single bar ( that gets any kind of crowd) that have never had a single fight or altercation
Bel air is the entire point of this article. Comparing Bel Air bars to Tully’s. We’re not talking about Havre De Grace or Aberdeen… we’re discussing the differences between Tully’s and the Main Street Bel Air bars.
This comment board has turned into a hub for gossip and stereotyping… people voicing their opinions who frankly have no right to do so because they are not aware of the facts and are not reading between the lines. Just because the Aegis or the Dagger publishes something does not necessarily make it true… or even worthy of this calliber of a debate. The Aegis is constantly being accused of riddling their articles with inaccurate information, so it just goes to show: don’t knock something until you have tried it… or seen it first hand in this matter. And don’t trust news sources… at all. Like I have stated before, there are cops sitting in front of Looneys LITERALLY every single weekend, yet the media doesnt publish anything about that? What if that got out to all the concerned parents of these 21 year old kids going to Looney’s???? They would have the SAME problems!
what about the bar in aberdeen that had several serious injuries to police and patrens. that was more of a issue. and it was not a holiday weekend when that happened..
Well im the one who got stabbed and im alright, it was not a box cutter i dont know whos speaking for tullys but it was a tiny pocket knife. Any place where you have liquor and alot of different kinds of people is bound to have some sort of problems regardless of the establishment. Ive been going there for a year now and ive had no issues excluding this one, and this happened because some guy put his hands on a female and i tried to diffuse the situation.
Thank you! Finally a sensible credible addition to this comment board! Can you comment on the atmosphere at Tully’s saturday night? …or any other night for that matter? I think some of these “haters” need some first-hand evidence that Tully’s isnt the place the media is making it out to be…
For me its always been laid back, i was never hassled about anything, like i said earlier this is the first problem ive ever had there, shit happens no matter where you go, people need to stop acting like this kind of thing happens just at tullys, just because you dont here about it doesent mean it doesent happen in your precious bel air bars.
First of all i would like to know who is speaking for tullys because your facts are completely incorrect. Secondly to the Concerned Father, fake id’s are easy to come by these days, you can purchase them just about anywhere or go as far as to use a friends id, we do our best to make sure everyone who consumes alochol in our club is of the age of 21 or over, unfortunatly we can not catch all who use fake ids, or go as far as to sneak alcoholic beverages. Also as far as the cops coming to our establishment every night, thats far from the truth, unfortunatly like bel air, we dont have the luxury of the police officers hanging out right outside of our bar waiting for an issue to unfold, we have handle what we can ourselves and if we have to call the police we do, the reason you read about tullys is because we actually have to call the police you never read about your bars in bel air because the police are already there so they dont have their issues reported as calls, so basically we did our job to the best of our abilitys, unfortuanly stabbing did occur with the victim being a close friend of ours. Unless you have worked in a bar establishment and know the ins and outs of a bar you should not even be commenting about issues that our and other establishments may have, we do the best we can to ensure everyones safety, this event was surely an unfortunate one but is bound to happen no matter which bar you go to. Our management and security staff is enhancing our security aswell as our dress code, we will also be subjecting everyone to being serched before they enter the premesis aswell as upon re entering to ensure nothing of this nature happens again.
If you have concerns with people posting as your establishment or organizations, please contact us offline at tellus@daggerpress.com, and we can verify that the original commenter should be identified as nto being a representative from Tully’s. Thanks.
Simple solution to this problem. A lot of bigger clubs in bigger areas have this under control.
1.Have a dress code.
2.Enforce the dam thing.
3.DJ, Dont play continuous Hip-Hop or hard rock. MIX IT UP
4.Door men, you talk to everyone, if the person has an attitude,DONT LET THEM IN
5.Owners, yes these are tought times, dont overcrowd your establishment. Yes you have a fire dept capacity code, that doesnt mean you have to make it a quota. Go for quality over qantity. You will make more money in the long run.
6.You all know who the coke dealers are…deal with them.
Packing people under the influence together in confined areas is going to lead to trouble.
Yes I’ve been in the business for a long time.
If you “shut down Tullys” the same crowd will go to another establishment, the same problems will crop up elsewhere.
If you dont like a bar, fine, dont go there …Ranting on and on about it will do no good. Its still America for at least a little while longer, you have the choice to go elsewhere.
so what clubs exactly do you think have this under control???
Its still America for at least a little while longer, you have the choice to go elsewhere.
nuff said! thats it, stop talking about it
damb that rap music…
The minor, supervised by someone from the Harford County Liquor Control Board as well as the sheriff’s office, went to 25 businesses to conduct the compliance test.
Of the 25 businesses, the minor was served at four of them: Tully’s of Fallston, Bulle Rock Restaurant in Havre de Grace, Perryman Grocery, and Sizzling Bombay restaurant in Emmorton. Three of the establishments did not request identification; an employee at Bulle Rock asked the minor for proof of age then served the alcoholic beverage anyway
Posted in the Aegis 10/14/09
which happened on a thursday at 12:00 in the afternoon completly irrelivent to this situation
HC, you’re really going out of your way to defend this ****hole. The first guy, Lamont Young, is a drug dealing thug (see his criminal record), and the second two that got arrested for running the sheriff over were surely there to deal or buy drugs.
Dude, the place is full of it, always has been. You can nitpick and say it’s different and all that – that place never changes.
Douglas Greene isn’t exactly someone you’d want your daughter bringing home either…
ok guys well you want to kno what they looked like…you might be very surprized by this….REGULAR BLACK GUYS…believe it or not the dont dress in all red an all blue …..you Mr. cop DW should know this but no you decide to keep provoking things…you may be the worst police officer in history
HC, again, I’m not the one bringing up race and I said nothing about what anyone looked like or what they were wearing. Were you one of the other people who got locked up (or should’ve gotten locked up…there were at least 20 other people who under normal circumstances would’ve been arrested) at Tully’s that night? It sure seems like you have a big chip on your shoulder for some reason.
In any case, if you’re reduced to calling everyone who criticizes what happens at Tully’s as being racist then I’d say you’ve run out of any legitimate argument and I’m done with you.
haha wow thats your argument really…well im glad you have some much spare time on your hands to run backgroung checks….i hate to give you some bad news but to you think main street bel air is any better at all…..you need to open your eyes an realize this is not isolated
Whatever you keep saying about Main St. doesn’t make Tully’s any less of a shithole
haha good your not disagreeing ill take it
we simple harford county folk just call em like we see em HC…tullys cannot continue to be a cancer to the community…we dont care what the races of the cancer cells are…we just don’t tolerate this stuff so get over it and go move to the city if you want it tolerated in your town
Thank you Amused.
I didn’t come out here to buy a home that I could have bought in the middle of downtown if I wanted to hear all the noise from just one establishment.
Nichole, reality check: you “bought a home” down the street from a NIGHTCLUB. It could be the most stand-up nightclub in the ENTIRE world and you would still have noise at 1-2am!!! Everyone loves their precious Main Street in Bel Air, but try moving into a house around it! You will get the same effect. AND… if you were so concerned about noise, why would you move down the street from one of the busiest intersections in the county??? Not to mention the fact that you clearly live on one of two of the busiest ROADS in the county! Its absolutely ridiculous how people continue to post completely invalid arguments on here and think they are being smart.
ahhhh amused please explain to me this CONTINUED cancer to the community…..please go ahead id love to hear this o an if you could back it up with ACTUAL FACTS i would love to see you try
well you must care about race when Looney’s has more fights than Tully’s o right but thats between white people so its ok right…haha your definetly amusing me let me know when you get a black friend
thanks for being such a racist that it probably hurts you on the inside every day…..WHEN DID LOONEYS HAVE 40 OFFICERS RESPOND TO A CALL AND HAVE A NEAR-RIOT BREAK OUT??? and how many looney’s “fights” ended with people getting stabbed? just wondering. you are such a reverse-racist it is sickening. get over it or move to the ghetto. Everyone in this area is disgusted by any establishment which has consistent issues….9 out of 10 times I go to Looneys there is no huge loitering crowds or violent fights….Magerks is actually much worse than Looneys as far as resembling a “cancer” or needing extra security….and we dont care what the races are of the trouble makers….we would put them all on an island to rot if we had our way.
o only 9 out of 10 times haha but hey i love how you get all your facts from the media way to go……yea im still amused
and I must be crazy….you say “when I get a black friend?”…don’t most african americans laugh at the notion that having a black friend proves you’re not racist?….so I just laugh at that comment you made. Again….how do you feel so sure that I do not have plenty of black friends….and why are you so racist against everyone else? Dr. King and President Obama would not be impressed by your thought and reasoning.
Im pretty sure HC is just getting frustrated because of the implied comments that Tully’s attracts nothing but a black crowd. I am a consistent regular, I go there twice a week, and its not as bad as how you guys are making it out to be. This is the first real fight I have EVER seen there, and I will take that statement to my grave. Maybe if you guys actually went there a time or two, instead of sitting at home reading the newspaper, you would have some factual evidence to support your blatantly invalid claims.
“Amused county resident” – I have been to Looneys COUNTLESS times, in fact I used to work there.. and I saw a lot more fights there than I have EVER seen at Tully’s. The same with Magerks… you want to talk about a “cancer”… look at what Magerks did to the Bel Air scene. Their Thursday nights were nothing BUT fights and attitudes. Then when they decided to change things up, everyone thought it was race-related… which it basically was. The DJ played hip-hop half the night which attracted primarily African Americans. The owner of Magerks decided he didnt want African Americans coming to his bar anymore, so he instructed the DJ he was no longer to play hip-hop. And ddon’t say I’m wrong… I know half the magerks staff and DJ Noozer personally.
I invite you all to come to Tully’s tomorrow night, they have a club night on Wednesdays, with a good crowd and good attitudes. Like I said, this is the first real fight I have ever witnessed at Tully’s and I will take that to the grave.
As for Nichole – you need to stop posting on this forum until you have valid facts and objective points to back up your arguments. I would love to see you in a real debate (haha). If you wanted peace and quiet, you should have moved to Baldwin, not down the street from the busiest intersection in the county and Harford County’s ONLY nightclub.
HC
Talk about somebody who has alot of time on their hands……..Your every other comment. Why is it that you are taking up for this shit hole establishment? No need to get rude, I’m simply posting a comment of how I feel about the place since my family and I have an investment so close to it. To attack me directly shows how much class you lack and shows eveyone else what kind of person you are who attends this place. If you get so worked up over comments whats your reaction with booze in you who says something smart that you dont like thats standing right in front of your face. It doesn’t sound like you would walk away to me.
sorry sweetie neve been in a fight in my life just cant stand people talking about things and degrading a place just because they dont like it….you dont get it do you people work there…there are peoples jobs on the line….but no you over look that..i would think about things a little more before you say them…especially when they are lies…karma is a bitch
The fact that you are all taking this so personal is rediculous yes we had 3 SMALL altercations prior to the fight that resulting in the stabbing we did our jobs to the best of our abilities WE removed the assailants from our establishment and WE handed them over to the authorities who were not call by us for the altercations.We had a HCSO K9 unit present on the lot and he called for more units for some reason after we removed the first groups from the property. There was NO near riot the sun took the OPINION of an officer not the official report. We were NOT over capacity in fact we had a line wrapping around the lot of people waiting to get in because we held the doors to not over crowd the bar. And the officer who was hit by the vehicle was a totally unrealated incident from the dispute and we wish the best for him and thank god he was not serious injured. We at tully are grateful for the quick response of all of the officers and they’re assistance in clearing everyone out. The whole situation on black and white sounds bad but fights happen everywhere in bel air, aberdeen, havre de grace, and even at bull on the beach in churchville.this is not an excuse but a fact we are professional trained to deal with problems if this nature and are taking the proper steps to help prevent further occurences like this.
I think DW, who said he is a police officer, had a logical solution under 6.1.1 above. Apparently there is some type of program that Tully’s would pay for to have Deputies on the parking lot working overtime. Seems to me the presence of a marked police car or two would be a deterrent to whatever is going on there. Some people probably would drive right by without even going in. I’m sure with the amount of money the business is making, this is something they could afford. No matter who is right and who is wrong, the place has a terrible reputation.
So I think everyone that is so upset about this and is freaking out needs a reality check! This stabbing could of happened anywhere. I know of two party that had stabbings and gun shots at them on Halloween. This stabbing could of happened in TGI Fridays or Freddies . The fact of the matter is Tully’s is not a bad place for this. I have been there plenty of times and the NEW OWNERS have turned the place a round. You really don’t realize what it takes to be an owner til you actually are in their shoes!!! So I mean if you have all of these negative feelings maybe you should try to run your own bar/club and see how many problem you run into. Tully’s handled this just fine. Tully’s is a great place with a great staff!
So The Reality in this situation is IT COULD OF HAPPENED ANYWHERE IT WAS HALLOWEEN! Get over it!!
We are asking everyone who wants to jump to conclusions and say we are a CANCER on the community to come out and visit our establishment before you judge us. We will be open for tomorrow night 930pm $1 drinks all night
I’ll be there! =)
It appears that some of the people that are posting are shills of the establishment and have a vested interest in the bar(HC & Bel Air Resident). Security’s comment that they have no idea why the HCSO called a code 13 tells me that they did not have a good idea on what was developing in the parking lot. Also a couple of the threads mentioned new owners, i do not believe that is correct, i think the same people that had the port own Tullys.
well interested bystander…this is all you are a media bystander someone who has no idea what actually happened except what your heard on the news an on this stupid website…if your would really like to know why dont you take security’s advice and come up on wednesday an see what the whole place is about….until then you really shouldnt be talking as if you know anything at all
Again you keep trying to get people to come to the club our they paying you? Maybe part of the problem is the drink specials that create an atmosphere that encourages excess drinking. Plus when you make the club 18 and over you are asking for trouble.
IB im not trying to get anyone to come to the bar at all im trying to set facts straight that everyone who has posted here has gotten wrong….once again if you don’t know what is really going on an all you are going off of is rumors an what you read then you should not be making comments that you do not have the facts to back up….im trying to give you some knowledge since your such an interested bystander
If you say your a bystander, then how would you know who the owners were.I know first hand that the owners there have changed since The Port! So You ARE Not Correct!
If you know that for a fact, let the blog know who the previous owners were and the new owners on the liquor license. On the web site the name listed is Port Royal which again i believe was the name of the previous company that owned the Port. Show me that i am wrong.
First off! I know the new owners! I was there the day the old owners turned it over to them! Let me pull Tully’s liquor license out of my file folder and photo copy it for you! Like I have there liquor license in front of me! But I do know for a fact that there is new ownership! If you don’t believe me why don’t you call up there and ask to maybe have a sit down with them and tell them that you think they use to be the old owners. Let me know how that works out for you!
well snap im sorry to tell you that thanks not going to come out in your favor…it is the same owners…but a new managemnt group that is there to run the operations the owners are still there
Interested Bystander,
We were well aware of why the code 13 was called in I was speaking of the initial call for additional units during the smaller altercations the code 13 was call after the officer was struck by the vehicle as far as the situation inside the club we had them under control when patrons were met with K9s batons and tasers outside some people were being complete assholes to the police we assisted them the best we could we ALWAYS are of the situation inside and outside of our club and were complimented by several members of MSP and HCSO on the job that we did that night
As a person who has not been involved in the bar scene for a few years, and a person who knows the bar business, and as a former night shift worker at the Shell on Rte 1 & 152 in the 1990s, and a current resident of Bel Air, former resident of Fallston, Edgewood, Joppatowne, and Ocean City, I’m going to throw my 3 cents in here.
A) Anytime you mix teenagers into a night club, you will have trouble. That building has always had problems, no matter the owner or name or menu. The problems are predominately (but not exclusively) on nights that attract the young crowd, and the city crowd, and yes, people do come up from the city to Fallston, they have been doing so since at least the early 1990’s.
B) You can not and will not EVER be able to effectively control alcohol consumption of patrons under 21; they will come in UI, they will smuggle in bottles, they will get older friends to buy, they will drink in your bathrooms, they will take whatever drug they wish to take, and you will not stop them. The only way to effectively stop the problem with minors mixing with others is to eliminate the possibility of them coming into your club. Lets talk about what really matters in your biz, money. Lose the under 21 crowd and you lose your tax free cash cow (cover charge), you are not slick, you are slimy, let’s not get the two confused. If you really want to clean up your club, end all under 21 admissions at 9 PM. I don’t care what you say about your training, etc. As long as under 21 mixes with over 21, your club is garbage. And that is not an assault on the under 21 crowd, you guys need to have fun too…try going to a ball game; the club scene is nothing but trouble.
C) Cocaine can and will be available at all of the bars mentioned in this thread, in agreement with a previous poster’s comment, you guys know who the main dealers are, GET RID OF THEM.
D) Don’t pretend that demographic means nothing.
E) Don’t pretend that demographic means everything.
F) It doesn’t matter what someone is cut with, or whether it’s a puncture wound or slice, it is still indicative of a MAJOR PROBLEM!
Well, I am not an employee of Tully’s, I am a regular patron who feels that his duty is to defend a bar that is receiving exaggerated media coverage and getting a bad rep from a situation that was handled appropriately.
I agree with a lot of what you say, native, but you have to consider this: The Port was a strictly over-21 establishment through the entire extent of its existence, and had FAR more problems than Tully’s has. In fact, Tully’s has not really even HAD any problems up to this incident (the underage-drinking violation was supposedly concerning the restaurant, not the club or pub). I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… I am there twice a week, almost every single week, and this is only the second fight I have seen there. The first was squashed in a matter of minutes and the perpetrators were arrested and barred, and I have not seen them back since.
People have a great time there, and anyone who has any DECENT experience with the place will vouch for that. I’ll say something else again: for those of you who continue to debate the atmosphere in Tully’s on club nights, come tomorrow night and take a look for yourself. I have a great time, and as far as I can witness, the other patrons have a great time too. The liquor board even swings in every now and again and greets some of the regulars!
Plus check out their website, http://www.tullysfallston.com … I took a look at the pictures from the past few events and things seem to be fine and dandy… I dunno, just saying.
You must get alot of free drinks.
Lets talk native because obviously you have been out of the bar scene for a while…so your throwing your 3 cents in ona bar that you have never even been to….have no idea how things are handeled….dont even know how many underage are in there….dont even know if the fight was started by underage (which it was not) so really your entire 3 cents has no meaning in this entire conversation…an yea free drinks are illegal in harford county
I never said that an underage person started the fight. I do know how things are handled, the door people take a hefty cover charge from underage people. It doesn’t matter how many underage are in a bar, it’s never a good formula. Lots of things are illegal, too bad stupidity isn’t. “an yea”
I love these two regulars who are defending our establishment and I welcome all of our other patrons who love tullys to post they’re experiences on this forum to show all of these people who are painting such an ugly picture of us to not take this incident as the tell all be all of our club yes we do have police response when we catch things like the TWO drug deals we caught last month and to report fraudulent IDs. We are damn good at what we do I have been Head of security at Tully’s since we opened in march and have been there since we opened the doors as the port and I can tell you that the club has improved ten fold! This was an isolated incident on one of the biggest bar nights of the year. It is what it is if you don’t like us then don’t come. You say that playing hip hop draws a bad crowd I have worked at rock bars same thing fights happend people drink and make poor decisons it happens everyday all over the world that’s why my crew and I are there to keep people safe and if we didn’t difuse the situation it would have been a hell of a lot worse you can’t blame the club owners or the staff when you get people from different walks of life in a room together shit happens
First off let me just say, I love Tully’s!! I have been going there every weekend since November of last year when it was still the port…I have met a lot of awesome people there including the staff… I am very well known up there and i know almost everyone who works there and almost everyone who comes in there…Tully’s is not a bad place, it does not attract a bad group of people…You just get stupid people in there that cant handle their alcohol and want to start drama…that Saturday night was a very good night for Tully’s, everyone was having a good time…like a lot of people on here have said, any bar is going to have fights, it’s just the way it is….As far as people saying it’s because of hip hop music being played, I know the DJ personally and I know for a FACT that he doesn’t play a lot of hip hop music, he always plays a good mix of music and everyone still dances and has a good time…Everyone there loves the DJ and what he plays and there are never any complaints about him… The door staff did a great job handling that situation on Halloween and any other small altercation that has ever occurred there….Like I said I have been going there every weekend since November of last year and I have not seen many fights at all….as soon as it looks like something is about to go down the door staff gets right in there and removes the people causing the problem…Great job guys =) So for you people saying there are cops there every weekend because of fights, BS!! Get your facts straight, I am there every weekend and know a lot of the staff on a personal level and I know a lot about what goes on there and no, there are not fight’s there every weekend…I will not let that Saturday night stop me from going to Tully’s, I will see you all this weekend =)
It sounds like someone needs to start going to meetings.
One day at a time.
sounds like someones about 55 years old an just stays at home on weekends
I love it how this is a huge serious discussion, then yet another comment comes through from a Tully’s regular, giving a FIRST-HAND perspective of the atmosphere and the situation on Halloween, yet another one of you morons, “MrReasonable”, goes ahead and interjects with a moron-comment about how the first-hand witness to the TOPIC needs to “go to meetings.” This is the reason I stopped posting on this comment board. Logic and first-hand experience apparently gets you nowhere. To the “Tully’s Regular”: I would not even bother posting anything else… these guys are all clearly homebodies who have nothing better to do than to sit at home and read the dagger and watch CNN and think that their ridiculously biased opinions are actually valid.
To Bel Air Resident, lol thats exactly why i didnt respond to him and im not going to….although i do have a smart ass comment but i’ll keep it to myself haha…See everyone this weekend, cuz AA is for quiters!! =)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^to the 20 peopl that actually read this page plese read this an end it!
I’m with HC. No one will win this battle. More attention has been given to this bar than have been given to the mayoral races in Aberdeen and Bel Air. Time to move on.
I agree MommieDearest. Come on Monday at 2:30
I have worked at tullys and the port royal since its opened it is still OWNED by the same people it is under new MANAGEMENT
All I keep hearing is that it could have happened anywhere that night. But it didnt happen anywhere. it didnt happen at looneys, or magerks, or either turtle ( aberdeen or belair, it happened at Tullys. when was the last time anyone got stabbed at any one of the other establishments i listed????? This kind of stuff doesnt even happen at the striip clubs in the city!!! I know because i used to bounce at them. HC you have no argument and im going to expose you every chance I get.
Actually there has been a stabbing/slashing at looney’s bel air last november with a broken beer bottle I was there I witnessed it first hand and they’re security handle just as well as we handle our incident it does happen just we had media coverage
I don’t care where it happened, how the bouncers handled themselves or how much media attention it gets. If your business has a violent reputation, I’m taking my money somewhere else. That goes for Looneys too.
If you really are associated with Tully’s, you’d better come up with a better damage control campaign than what you’ve been posting here so far. “All the other bars are doing it” isn’t going to cut it (pun intended). Your childish responses have guaranteed that I am never going to patronize your bar.
thank god please dont go…….( like you did anuway)
I’ve lived in Harford County 30 years and this place has long been a serious problem. It changes names and ownership frequently because it’s an out-of-control roadhouse whenever they can get away with it.
We used to go to the good restaurant when it was 152 Seafood for years, and they had crabs downstairs. But whenever the management can, they get into this underage nightclub thing with loud bands and lots of drinking and crushing crowds. I went one time to that in the 90s (once was enough!) and it was all white clientele then. Evidently now it draws from the worst of Edgewood and they wear gang colors. [Sigh]
Hello, this place needs to be shut down entirely, SOONEST, and the site bulldozed. If people want to run places like this let them do it in Baltimore County or the city and worthless no-goods can go feel up women and stab people there. We do not need race riots in Harford County with police from all surrounding jurisdictions having to respond, 40 of them, 600 people milling around fighting in the parking lot. Of COURSE Tully’s is a cancer in this community. Duh!
Harford County Liquor Control Board: Shut Tully’s down!
I’m a police officer, too, and trust me, ALL the bars in Harford Co have there problems.
The Aegis lead editorial on Friday Nov. 6 said that a member of the liquor control board said they do plan to act on this problem of Tully’s. I’m hoping they are drastic — that place is wildly out of control.
Rest easy Farmwife, liquor board action coming soon. Numerous violations- some prior to the stabbing incident. Dont expect Tully’s to be open in 2010. Except maybe under a new name.
i guess by now you can tell i have a history with the tullys group i am very familiar with the staff now and from the past i have friends from the past and from the present that i talk to on a regular bases i know the old management staff and i know the new management staff on a first name bases how do you ask simple ive been going there for years and ive seen it take a downward spiral its a shame cause it really is a nice place just run by the wrong people dont believe me ask the old staff they will tell you and as to how i know the old staff i used to work there before i was fired and hired then fired again but im not mad just honest at least someone is being here
ah yes then you would know that some of the old staff is still on……downward spiral huh….going for 50 or so people on the weekend to having a line of over 200 people for 3 hours….yea real big downward spiral…haha no wonder you were fired twice you must have been part of the problem
neg its ghetto attitude people like you who bring your gun packin groupies into clubs to cause probs love ya xoxox
Tossed out,
I would love to know who you are because I worked with the entire port staff you are speaking of Chick, Tony, Carlos and so on and we do just as good of a job as they did! We just started doing personal searches and that is the ONLY thing that has changed and since you KNOW us all than I invite you to come speak to me personally about the way I run MY crew I am the head of securty at tullys my name is Ben which if you worked with me then you already knew that
this hc person has a lot to say
i tell you the facts that you so want to hear
1 the port had crowds of up 200 and more with a line but then the great business owners decided to do live music and kill the weekends
2 every idea that the new management has implied has come from the old management but the owners were to afraid to listen at that time
3 when the you let underage people in the bar in a county wheres there nothing really to do i guess you would increase the amount threw the door but then again what do you expect when the boy who would be manager wants to screw a bunch of teenagers
4 the old door staff were commended by the liquor board for stopping so many fake id’s and for giving the port a new reputation for being a nice place to go
5 you speak of drugs that walked threw the door well if the owner wasnt doing it at the time and every time we caught it and brought it to his attention all we heard was well what are you going to do
theses are facts you know it we know it now the people know it i will agree that the guys tattoos were kinda of lame and thats all i will agree with
Well your points have some truths…we were open bar as the port as well as tullys… That’s pretty much it but it sounds like you know an AWFUL lot about what was goin on behind the scenes at the port and possible have a grudge against the new management maybe you should move on! Hey maybe since you love the old staff so much I hear they are all down at that shit hole bluefins in essex maybe they will give you a job there and you can stop worrying about what goes on in our bar.
would love to but thats way to far to travel and i have a new place to hang , besides maybe if security would have backed me up a time when needed i wouldnt be holding a grudge. I was there during the switch i was put into a situation that i didnt want to be in. So for the record know you know
Well if you really did work at the port then you are referring to the management switch which would make you one of three people…and you all already work at bluefins so who are you really and don’t bullshit be a man I said who I am what’s up?
Well since you won’t tell me who you are are assume that I am correct as far as security not havin your back some of us need the money and couldn’t just up and quick when the management switch occured sorry but that gives you no reason to shit talk the establishment and the people like myself who are still there so hold your grudge and get over it your a grown ass man last time I checked so I’m leavin it at that so talk you shit your just jealous that we are busy and your bar is only open depending on when baltimore county health department says the tide has gone in enough we will still be packed every weekend with out you have fun and becareful I’ve heard you guys have had guns pulled on you at bluefins
first let me say i have never worked for bluefins nor will i second my grudge is with the staff at tullyS that when i was punched and beat you guys stood there i eveb heard some of you got a laugh out of it these my supposed fsmily
Lol ok now I know who you are do yourself a favor if you have a grudge with us or me in particular then be a man come up tonight and we will talked about it and as far as laughing at you getting you ass beat I recall dragging the guy out by his throat and smashing him through the door so you can kill that shit we were family you stopped commin
after painfully reading all these comments i have to laugh. why? its simple, its a bar people its going to happen there are going to be fights there are going to be times when you just cant control what happens . I know this cause i have been a bouncer for many years dating back to when bohagers was around . i know the security staff at tullys or the port or whatever they wanna call it (well at least a few of them ) and ive worked with them i know they know how to handle themselves. tossed out hold your grudge thats fine you have that right but Ben is a friend of mine and i know when i worked there he had my back the big broham he is . its sad when a non computer person like myself has to be informed of all this via a phone call im sorry but im going back to my xbox i have a call to duty lol and to everyone else dont you people have anything better to do then sit here and wait for people to post this shit lol. seriously are we still in high school or are we adults oh yeah and so theres no confusion this is loki i sure in the hell dont want anyone thinking im worried about saying who i am
well mr high and mighty himself chimes in with a comment wow should we be in awe i think not it seems funny how after all this time you are the voice of reason i can remember you cursing and fighting for all of us and now you become the voice of reason thats real funny the belair resident was right you are a meat head with lame tattoos im almost ashamed to say i worked with you as for the other security all of them past and present can kiss my #$% that is why i have found a new bar where i do feel safe so the tullys people can all go to hell management security and anyone who agrees with them can follow right along
Thanks loki I always got you back as for tossed out if you are who I think you are call me you have my number tell me how really feel man to man instead of leavin posts on a blog…which you most likely won’t do
Hmmm, interesting! I am reading a lot of comments here and there seems to be two factions. One camp is obviously disgruntled former employees, with the exception of the poster, Loki. That camp seems intent on making up stories since they have not been on premise for some time and act as though they are there every week. Some even pretend to be customers that are frequenting Tully’s. How childish and immature!
The other camp seems to be employees or customers who have actually been to Tully’s and are probably regulars. They seem to have the facts correct on what a professional management team, security staff and nightclub that is Tully’s.
With that being said, I go to Tully’s regularly as well. I do frequent some other local establishments as well, but I like the food at Tully’s and their waitstaff. I was there when it was being managed by Chip or Chimp or whatever his name is. It seemed he could never manage the nightclub well enough to get a crowd in there. Many times I was there when only 30 or so people were in the place. Obviously, new management is doing an excellent job with lines outside the building on a consistent basis. They did what he could not do or even imagine. The bartenders are basically the same people with a few new additions. The security staff has a few of the old people from the Port on current duty. I think the old security did a good job with the exception of one or two. I think the current security at Tully’s is outstanding and are extremely professional. That is why they were able to handle any trouble that took place that night and even the police had problems with some ignorant patrons while Tully’s security handled the same people without event.
They are the facts, written by someone who was actually there and is a regular. Tossed out obviously has some psychological issues or had his feelings hurt. Funny, I know one of the current security guards at Tully’s and he said that management and security all went to court for him on his behalf. Does that sound like a team that did not back him up? What a low life loser to now say something different. I think it was JohnnyB, Lance and Ben that actually tackled the assailant to the floor. Hmmm, not backing him up is not what the court records would indicate. So Tossedout is a blatant liar.
The girl Nichole is obviously confused. Some claim to be Bel Air residents and then say they live outside of Tully’s. I’m curious, do they live in the Shell Station or in the woods. I now the people who reside in the three homes next to Tully’s. Some seem to think that every siren they hear or flashing light they see on a major road such as 152 or Route 1 is for Tully’s. I don’t recall the name of the mental disorder for this, but a laymen would say you are making crap up and want Tully’s to fail for some other motive. What a sick puppy you are! Magic Columbine sounds like a complete ass with his post. What a tool!
There are a couple of other posters worth noting. Tossed out mentioned one of the managers was a wanna be photographer. Interesting! My friend used his photography company for their wedding. It is the largest company in Maryland and probably on the East Coast. I know personally that he is the photographer for many NFL players and other celebrities. That’s not a wanna be, that is tops in that field. So TossedOut, you sound like you have some jealousy issues. What successful companies do you own? LOL None I bet! As for wishing someone would be dead. I am unsure of the circumstances of which you speak. But I do know this, wanting or wishing someone was dead is inhumane. You have deepseeded mental issues my friend. It would probably be better you did not post, or someone in the health field or someone like myself will point out your issues publicly. You seem to have small penis syndrome or at least that is what I heard from some you dated. LOL
The posts I read that were the most discouraging were the racists posts and posts about people who live in a lower class neighborhood. News flash, there are problem people everywhere, it is not class restrictive. Living in a certain area does not make one a bad person. Some of those people happen to be people of color. Guess what? There are people of color in every social class. Saying or implying that people of color cause more trouble than whites is just….racist! These people posting such things are either closet racists or uneducated morons. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt, they are both!
Well, you can read and believe racist posts and those who are disgruntled exemployees of the Port/Tully’s. Or you can listen to posters such as the Tully’s Security, Swedo, the Voice of Reason, and Loki, and of course myself and other regulars, to get a fair and accurate appraisal.
Remember, Loki was a former security guard at Tully’s and he even says they do a professional job. Regulars say they do a professional job and that there are few problems there. Swedo, who was the one that got cut says he is there all the time, and this is the first problem he ever encountered. The question should be, “Is a sensationalized news report from newspapers with diminishing sales a fair and accurate accounting. I believe one of the newspapers already printed a retraction. Or should we believe the people, the regulars, other officers who said security and management did an outstanding job and are willing to testify to that? Maybe we should ask the person the got cut, Swedo. Oh, that’s right, he already said there was never a problem until that night. The question should be, does Swedo feel safe or does he think Tully’s is deserving of this bad press. Uh, hmmm, that’s right, Swedo was at Tully’s the following Friday! Enough said!
I guess it is difficult for some to post accurately with facts, when all they think about is their failures. I guess if you are no longer working at the hottest night club in Harford County with lines out the door for hours, you were not part of the success. And that success further cuts to the quick when you are vanquished to some dive you have to work at now. That would be a reason to post untruths. Do us all a favor. Don’t post! Just stay at the dive you are currently employed at. A few of you can continue to live with your parents even though you are adults.
My name is Foolhunter and I am called that for a reason. Please post some more lies so I can continue to expose you and your agendas. You know, IP addresses are a curious thing. Did you know some people can trace IP numbers and then use IP locating software show where a poster is posting from? Just thought I mentioned that for those who are not as smart or computer savy as me. LOL
Thanks to those who were able to tell the truth. And to those who lied and have vendettas for their failures in life–get a life or grow up or just stfu!
haha so a new idiot has chimed in well let me say this i never once wished anyone dead i said who should be dead just for the simple fact of what was told to so many people as to security i never said you guys did a bad job i just said it could of been better and to mr high and mighty mr loki you should retire your old ass i bet even now i could take you out without any trouble i here your far done that you affraid to even try and get back into a club or bar seen if you want me and think you know who i am ill be at that irish bar in belair the real irish bar
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Hey genius! Guess what? By implying that someone is not dead yet, by pure implication, means that you wish they were dead. So you implied that moron!
Geesh, what’s the use of me trying to explain things to an imbicile. It’s obvious you can’t spell. It’s obvious you lack even second grade level grammatical skills. Do you even know what a run on sentence is or is not? You are a total moron!!! What grade level did you complete. Go ahead, answer! Then I can cut the hell out of you lack of intelligence, even more than before.
Oh, and one more thing moron, I think I know Loki. If it is the person I think it is, you would be squashed like a bug. In fact, I bet I could identify you outside of another Irish bar. You would be the one with wet spots all over your pants as you see Loki walking towards you to tak you up on your offer. Could you be any dumber? Could you be any more ignorant?
You know, sometimes “Tossed Out”, it is better not to post and let people think you are an idiot rather than posting and leaving no doubt you are an idiot. Did you notice no one posted after I did? Did you even consider there might be a reason for that? Of course the smart ones used discretion and decided not to post rather than have me make them look like idiots for lying. You, on the other hand, decided to make yourself look even worse as you tried to spin your lies. Listen Einstein, discretion would have been the better part of valor. Since you will be frantically trying to look up these words in a dictionary, let me save you some time. You just should have shut up after my post, like everyone else or at least like everyone else with half a brain. But noooooo, idiots will be idiots. So here’s hint–STFU! Now, did I make myself clear enough so that even a moron like you can comprehend that? Geesh! IDIOT!
Well let me start off by saying thank you for your support Fool hunter. Second im not going to waste my time even bothering to acknowledge Tossed Outs attempts to get under my skin , maybe my age is showing lol. I do have one quick last idea its been almost half a month, how lame is your life that you keep coming on here to bad mouth other people ,really now. One more thing this is Loki and im not afraid to admit it .
Judge Eaves reverses Liquor boards revocation of license…and her campaign manager is Tully’s lawyer? GTFOH! Is this the same Judge that had the altercation with a business owner over parking years ago…her citing who she was?!?
Go Dagger !
Her term isn’t up until 2023 so she can make any boneheaded decision that she sees fit. She was an O’Malley appointment, take it out on him, his bid for re-election is a lot sooner.
i know SOOOO MANY kids that go to tully’s and get in with fakes/no id check every week. Especially Wends day nights. Tully’s is well known to the younger crowd to go and get drunk or go in drunk and hang out. And then they all drive home? underage and DUI
I worked at tullys for a while. and it was always one thing after another. The bouncers there are a joke. expecialy LANCE, who shouldnt even be allowed to be a manger or bouner at Chucky Cheeses beucase he is the biggest clown! They will serve liquor to anyone who asks for it. They let any one in. and they pertend to be trying to downsize the drama and fights but they do nothing but make everything worse. All kinds of drugs go in and out of that place. and about Holloween night. please there was a fight every night. weapons everynight. nothing new its just that people are finally getting tired of the bull shit this little no name club is starting.
if i had to guess i would say that HC who keeps defending Tully’s would be lance. The child who is in capable of running a night club!
Lol I think this conversation can end, tully’s is no longer open as of a week or so ago.
Actually, tully’s closed march 1st (A MONTH AGO). that goes to show how uninformed and uneducated you people are….. and pathetic that you are still wasting your time bashing a place that will never exist again! LOL. ridiculous!!! My email keeps blowing up with responses on this comment board, its absolutely 100% pathetic.
…In response to the judge eaves comment, tully’s lawyer managed EVERY judge’s election campaign you effing idiot! seriously!!! You people assume something by reading the aegis (the most blatantly biased newspaper in the history of journalism!!!) then run your mouth without doing a second of research and pretend to know what your talking about!!! i’m not even supporting tully’s anymore, i’m supporting knowledge and educated debating….. something very few people on this board know anything about!!