Much like the Hatfields and McCoys, this feud is over territory and owners’ right, but, rather than Kentucky backcountry, this fight takes place on the waters of Havre de Grace’s Yacht Basin.
First came the complaints of nuisance and negligent boat owners causing problems with fellow mariners at the Yacht Basin. Then came assertions of unequal treatment, unfair punishment and even unlawful operation and expenditure of taxpayer money at the city marina. Next we heard about improperly designed and incorrectly installed railings, parking spaces and other equipment.
And now we have a dead body.
Missing since late February, 53-year-old Donald Walter McGlothlin was found Monday on Swan Creek by a pair of fisherman. He had died from drowning and hypothermia, or perhaps some combination of the two.
Mr. McGlothlin was also one of the few residents of the Tydings Park Marina – he lived in a house boat on Pier 4.
Here is what the Havre de Grace Police Department had to say about this death:
On March 30, 2008 at approximately 3:10 PM, a report was received by Harford County Emergency Operations that a body was sighted in the area of Swan Creek and the Chesapeake Bay, Harford County, Maryland. The report was made by two persons fishing in the area.
The Aberdeen Proving Ground Police Department responded and assisted while the body was recovered and transported to the Tydings Park in Havre de Grace, for further investigation.
The deceased was transported to the Medical Examiners Office in Baltimore for post mortem examination and identification purposes, which took place on March 31, 2008.
On February 28, 2008 the Havre de Grace Police Department began an investigation into the report of a missing person named Donald Walter McGlothlin, 53 years of age, who had a last known address of Pier 4, Tydings Park Marina, Havre de Grace, Maryland. Mr. McGlothlin was reported missing by a friend. It was later discovered that Mr. McGlothlin was last seen or heard from on February 19, 2008.
The investigation of Mr. McGlothlin, being missing, did include an underwater search in the Tydings Park Marina, which was conducted on March 2, 2008 by the Susquehanna Hose Company Dive Team.
The identification of the deceased subject recovered on March 30, 2008 is that of Donald Walter McGlothlin.
Marine resources from the Perry Point Fire Department, Aberdeen Proving Ground Police Department, Susquehanna Hose Company and the Maryland Department of Natural Resources assisted in the recovery of Mr. McGlothlin.
The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner and the Maryland State Police Crime Lab Services assisted in the identification and investigation of the death of Mr. McGlothlin.
Drowning and hypothermia are listed as causes of death for Mr. McGlothlin.
The body washed up just a day before city resident and former Yacht Basin boat slip renter Richie Clements sent a letter to Havre de Grace Mayor Wayne Dougherty inquiring about, among other things, improperly installed, unsuitable and even missing railings at the marina:
Wayne..Mayor HdG Md.It has been noticed that the railings that I said were unsuitible for use and also installed improperly when piers 1 and 3 were done…have been removed for replacement.Considering that my comments and criricizim, (the forcing of the city to modify their instalition at the time they were originaly installed), are once again proven to be founded and in sound judgement I would ask the following…..How much was the cost of these 100 or so aluminum boarding ladders…to include man-hours by the city to remove them and install the replacements at just a few years old?Is the fact that they have been replaced any indication of the competance of the designer, Geri Fraley?Were they originally purchased through Susquhanna Yacht Services? (geri fraleys buisness)If so can the money be recouped from him?Who is to be held accountable for this waste of state, county and city,(waterways grant) taxpayer money?Why have I been ousted from the marina for pointing these things out to you (the city govt)?On another matter…although I dont think you care…there was a very serious complaint lodged against Mr.*******,…the city hero with the extensive criminal record…whome you love so much…reguarding …(ill let you ask)….. that happened while on duty in the PARK. All I’m willing to say is if you ignore this offer and somthing happens,(and it probably will),…you and only you will be held primarely accountible . I will also add that this matter has nothing what so ever to do with me. As a community citizen and user of the marina and park this is of grave concern.………Get back to me if you want me to escort you through an un squewed …un announced …interview…without the possibility of wittnesses being harassed or threatened in advance as has happened in the past. Remember…I have never lied to you….or been wrong… and although it bothers you its an irrefutable fact!Now its not only me! Are we all Crazey?This is the chance to partialy redemm yourself.HdG citizen and victim of political oppression and harassment..Richie Clements
So what is going on here? Is the marina unsafe? Are its owners and operators playing fast and loose with the rules and not running a tight enough ship (pardon the pun)?
More than likely, Mr. McGlothlin’s death can be chalked up as another casualty of life in a river town. Drowning is an unfortunate and unique risk that comes with living in Havre de Grace, Port Deposit and other waterfront communities.
But, if nothing else, maybe now is a good time for Havre de Grace to take a good long look at the operation, management, funding, equipment, infrastructure and everything else that goes into running the Tydings Park Yacht Basin.
In case you were wondering, here’s some information the city provides on its web site about the Yacht Basin:
The City of Havre de Grace, City Yacht Basin is located at the southernmost end of Havre de Grace adjacent to Millard J. Tydings Memorial Park. The Yacht Basin, constructed between 1956 and 1966, provides water access to the northern Chesapeake Bay and the Susquehanna River for the citizens of Havre de Grace and general public. The superior location of the Yacht Basin off the main channel and protected by the City on one side and Tydings Island on the other, affords an ideal location. The location provides panoramic views across the Susquehanna Flats and down the Bay toward Turkey Point and the main body of the Bay.
The Yacht Basin currently is furnished with 275 boat slips and a launching ramp which will accommodate vessels to 35 feet. Shoreline fishing access and a boardwalk provide access for non-boaters. The City of Havre de Grace maintains and manages the City Yacht Basin as an enterprise fund to provide affordable water access to the public.
Rates
- The annual rental fees from April 1, 2006 to March 31, 2007 are $40/foot.
- Launching fee is $5.00 per launch.
- Transient slips are $1.00/foot per night.
Services
- Annual rental of 275 slips
- Transient docking
- Gasoline and diesel fuel
- Sanitary marine pumpout
- Hunting & fishing licenses
- Sell bait, ice, newspapers
- Outside snack bar will accommodate 50 people
- Showers for slip users
- Boat launch ramp
- The Yacht Basin monitors channels 16 and 68
Public Safety
The Department of Natural Resources bases two boats in the Marina which are equipped to provide rapid and efficient responses to persons requiring routine or emergency water rescue services.
Research and Education
Within Tydings Park is a research facility operated by University of Maryland. It is the Center for Environmental and Estuarine Studies (CEES), Northern Chesapeake Bay Research and Monitoring Facility. They monitor buoys in the Upper Bay. Their data collection may include:
- Wind speed and direction
- Water speed and direction, temperature, pH, turbidity
Gere Frailey, Dock Master
geref@havredegracemd.com
(410) 939-0015
And in case you wanted to read about some of the recent allegations and goingson at the Havre de Grace Yacht Basin, you can find them HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE.
Oh my god!
The boat he resided on is a 27 foot Coronado sail boat. Its owner is Jay Schiller. Shiller is the owner of “Inks in Tatooes” in Havre de Grace. According to a source in the marina. 27 foot is small for perminant residance as it is less than 100sq feet of living space. Thats just over the size of two 5×9 jail cells.
I personaly did not know Mr. McGlothlin. I do know Mr. Schiller on a hello good-by bassis.
It would be interesting to know what peir the boat was actually on as of the incident. Piers are under construction and boats have been shuffled around. Was this boat actually on piers 1 or 3 at the time of the incident?
I would like to know what prompted a water search and I would also like to see the order and any other documents reguarding the replacement of these ladders.
-A few years ago when first installed…I complain to fraley about design and instalition to no avail. Complaint to city gets a second bolt installed on each boarding ladder.
-Man is reported missing and investigation starts on Feb 28 08.
– Water search on march 2, 08.
-By March 29 08 boarding ladders are removed.
– Man is found dead on March 30, 08
Tires slashed. Reported on Dagger Press. Owner of vehicle reads about it on Dagger Press. Three hours before he discovers the damage. For someone that reports every thing that goes on at the Yacht Basin makes one wonder.
what does that post mean? did i miss something?
I hear ya ? that was a wierd post.stay on `em richie,I`m with you on this one.and for anyone wondering,his nicname was “FROSTY”.he wll be missed by many.i
Well noone…..when you live in a park….your garbage is in public view to all. If you had a reason to get up and out in the morning you wouldnt be so oblivious to whats around you. Noone if you re read the post I very clearly said I drove through the park at a certain hour…..nothing unclear about it…..here is the post he mentions…
“Somone is p-o’ed at a “Havre de Grace Marina Mafia” member. Hardcore captian in the “Fralalistas”, ( followers of Gerald Fraley jr. of Quarrey ville pa…marina manager…king of hdg’s private goon squade…), Mike on pier 6 at the end…left side.. had his tires flattened along with another car…hmmm…seems like they are antigonizing more than just me. Sat night after visiting the commisiniors office to do some paperwork I did a drive through of the marina and saw the two cars with flat tires. Oh well what goes around comes around. I guess these guys are getting what they ask for…a ghetto for a marina.”
Its in marina mafia…the 6th post . As you can see its very clear.
http://www.daggerpress.com/forums/topic.php?id=104&replies=32
I think some people are uncomfortable that their activities are being shown in public here for citizens to apprise.
Joe Holley….
Is Frosty the guy that went in the water? Tell us a little about him.
Joe..and anyone….my e-mail is onekooleskimo@yahoo.com
Please feel free to contact me if you have somthing you want to share or discuss in private.
ps to noone…please spell your own name correctly. Its noone…not none !
RichieC,
Same stuff different place. Be true, beware my friend.
Rick…beware …I know what you mean!
I feel as if ive flushed the foxes out of the woods….when they refused a hearing they made it clear that they were playing games. Now its a matter of letting people know about it.
The real payoff will be when as a result we are able to renove these rouges from office and replace them with folks with a moral compass that is not broken. That will be at the voting booth…and HdG will be better off for it. The old boy’s mutual aide society will cease to exist.
And thanks.
RichieC,
More dangerous than foxes I’m afraid. Thank God for the electoral process, but try finding three or more “politicians” with even a compass. That’s the challenge.
I like challenges !
Clean out the marina !
No 365 live aboards !
No shanty town !
People have lived in the marina with no issues until you came along. You don’t belong there anymore, so STFU.
This thread is a must read, explains it all http://www.daggerpress.com/forums/topic.php?id=305
Thank you Bizzaro !
This issue has not been addressed along with the side issues raised.
For rear of being accused of changing the subject, I see this as a perfect example of why we have, and need to hold dear, the second amendment to the US Constitution. As the various folk have chimed in I can’t help but think of the old saying;
“first they came and took away the Gypsies and I said nothing because I’m not a Gypsy. Then they came and took away the homosexuals and for the same reason said nothing. Then they took away the Jews but I’m not Jewish so I said nothing. Then they took away the Catholics but I’m Protestant. And now there is no one to say anything when they come for me.”
This HCPS machine needs to be dismantled.
Dave…its a last resort ,but that is exactly why it is there !
Read Daves post !!!!!
Fellow Dagger Readers and Bloggers
I am posting a petition that is also circulated in hard copy around town…below.
Please support me in my efforts to slap down similer retaliation in another issue that I have raised. Please cut and paste the petition to an e mail and use the address I give in that post. In this way I meet a challenge given to me to show the administration of HdG that their conduct in the exact matter on the petition is not acceptable. Please include your name..as that is required…in support of the issue. Each e-mail received is another “signature” and will be included with the petition. Remember to e mail the cut and paste of the petition text…with a comment of support.
Thanks in advance…mabey we can set a precident and show that we cant and wont let each other get run over.
Thank you…RichieC.
copy below ……….cut and paste..and include you first and last name…no screen name….to…
onekooleskimo@yahoo.com
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PETITION
Support Ethical and Fair Government in HdG
Richie C. has worked hard to bring fair and sound marina management and policies and the elimination of unfair practices to the HdG City Yacht Basin for many years. This has irked those who benefit from abusing the lack of rules and oversight by the HdG City government over Yacht Basin operations and policies.
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The decision to remove Richie C. from the City Yacht Basin, in an effort to silence him on these issues, based upon absolutely no proof, no evidence, no hearing, and only by a questionable petition of one small group of primarily out of state friends of the marina manager representing only 5% of the marina users is not acceptable. Intimidation of many marina users has prevented them from speaking up on this matter.
**
Restore Richie C. to the Yacht Basin NOW!
Not reversing this un-American injustice, a railroading, and restoring Richie C. to the Yacht Basin is considered an endorsement by HdG government of bad government and bad marina management policy in HdG government. Silencing critical speech is un-American.
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Mabey this can be the first collective action by the Dagger Readers.
( im almost afraid to hit the “submitt” button! )
GO DAGGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There seems to be a family in distress living on a sailboat in the yacht basin. I don’t know their circumstances but this should be looked into. The boat is 26 feet only and winter is coming. The car is old…ratty…and has the cheap historic plates used by many low income people to circumvent registration…inspection…an d insurance fees. These plates are meant for collectibles and antiques…not to circumvent the law.
Where is our marina manager…or is he recruitting this guy, as he has so many other indigents, as a Marina mafia enforcer and YES-MAN ?
Lets not forget the death last winter of a guy living on a marima users sailboat .
Go Dagger ! !
A PIA viewing was demanded on Aug 16, 2008 regarding the ladders abruptly removed when the body was discovered. The City has yet to comply. The city has also not denied the request. I have been tipped off that many records will be claimed to have been lost in a flood and although these records were restored and that’s also been acknowledged…they will claim that some were not. The fact is…they were all recovered from the flood and brought to the old city hall and painstakingly dried out. This took a month and a Yacht Basin employee spent full time there spreading these records our on a table to dry. I would assume any records that were not recoverable have been retained even if in bad condition as proof of their claim. We shall see.
Go Dagger ! !
Go Dagger ! !
The PIA information, obtained from the city of Havre de Grace, shows that the city absolutely knew the rails were substandard. The original rails were designed by the dock master and ordered to be fabricated by a company in North Carolina.
Frali claims that the rails were delivered in a complete order instead of a prototype, (prototype needed to determine if the rails would do the job), and in order to cover up his incompetance in both procurement and design he accepted the defective order as he claims there would have not been ladders if he didn’t. Under normal circumstances an order that was delivered under these circumstances would have been refused and legal action taken for damages. In this case the incompetance or the desire of the dock master to cover his incompetance eroded the ability to re coupe the expense or loss of revenue. This is all at the expense of the tax payers of both Maryland and Havre de Grace.
The new rails were ordered from company in Northeast Md in numbers sufficient to replace even the oldest of the new rails as early as spring of 07. I have interviewed the owner of that company and he states his recollection of conversations with Frali (dock massa) about how the other rails were faulty. They were not replaced until winter (march april ) 08. This means the policy of ignoring these dangerous ladders and letting the citizens use them without warning, went on for 5 years. The only action taken was to remove the person from the marina who was making noise about this potentially FATAL safety issue.
To date the city has only lashed out, led by Mayor Wayne Dougherty, against the person who has attempted to expose this chronic corruption in every aspect of our City Yacht Basin. Corruption that spans from abusing a project…to incompetence…..stealing time and resources…to allowing theft of services by friends.
Go Dagger !
As for the family on the sailboat…mentioned in #23…more victims of vicious gossip by those who don’t want decent people around.
This guy turns out to be very legit….and with no intentions of staying the winter. In fact hes actually doing a caribbean trip and acclimating his kids to living on a boat. The rumors emanated from the scum that use the marina as a shanty town.
Go Dagger ! !
Turns out the guy never left…I gave him the benifit of the doubt….eventually he did leave abandoning a car in the parking lot.
Incredible that a Mayor cant remove two ill women from a dangerous situation until public outcry ruins his day …yet he has no problem pissing all over the constitution thru local ordinances to get a person out of the marina that he truly wants out.
Go Dagger ! !
Turns out the guy never left…I gave him the benifit of the doubt….eventually he did leave abandoning a car in the parking lot.
Go Dagger !
One dead…do we want more?
The marina now needs to be rid of those who stay over the winter…its nether safe nor healthy. Living on a boat where there is no running watter…leaving space heaters on 24 / 7 even while your sleeping in cramped quarters….is not to any code. The very few people who live in the marina are problem children anyways. Chronic scoffs who repeatedly break our cities rules and laws. Our Marina cannot continue to allow recreational boat slips to be used as a shanty town.
Go Dagger
RichieC take note our Harford county’ sheriff is saying, his jail is becomeing a depository for the Homeless & infirmary.
These bad guys in the marina are a variety of 1. hardened criminals 2 lazy ass wipes who think they can outsmart the system.
Their are but a few actual working people who live there. Maybe they all need to go and its a shame that a few rotten bastards ruin it all for the rest.
A vetting process is needed.
Go Dagger !
On the HdG budget….
The Yacht basin is reported to have made less than 15,000 this year. This could have been more if the marina manager didn’t allow certain people to fuel boats from outside with fuel cans, didn’t allow people to use slips they didn’t fit into because they are cheaper (they regularly use other more expensive slips), Keep second boats and claim they are dinghies to avoid paying slip fees, Run commercial ice machines on their boats(god only knows how much electricity ws consumed as this guy is next to and has access to a transit power receptacle), pay their electric bills on time (liveaboards shanty town residents on payment plans. The cheap slip fee scam and second boat scam are at least worth $2500 a year.
Not to mention the money spent on replacing the rails that were incompetently designed and procured in the first phase of the new pier project.
All departments are being asked to trim their budgets…this of course will not affect the services we GIVE AWAY to Geri Frali’s (dock master) friends.
If I had my way we would eliminate the unneeded position of current dock master…he has so much time on his hands he has been running his own private business at that location. We would not renew his contract….hire from within …elevate one of our competent people from within at a reasonable salary. The marina should be locked for DEC thru MARCH with only that person drawing pay and being on site. This would save many thousands and add revenue by disallowing the current abuses that continue to this day.
Go Dagger !
Ive heard a rumor that Havre de Grace has been asked to account for some actions and policies in the yacht basin by the state.
Go Dagger !
I would say it’s about time. why should a few elite injoy the benefit of the marina
Many have a lot to be thankful for this Thanksgiving.
The residents that live year round in the HdG City Yacht Basin truly are blessed this Thanks giving. Where else but there can you live in a fuedel society that’s protected from the inconveniences of such modern things as law, due process, registering autos and even taxes. Where else can you live for a total sum of 1000 per year, on the water, and it includes bathroom maid service.
Meanwhile the rest of us have to get jobs, these special people need not bother as they can make it on the odd satellite TV hacking code sale, going out for cash on a crab boat, or even if absolutely necessary …the city does its job and employs them. Where else as a 5 time convicted druggie and gun possessor can your word be taken over that of hard working slobs who want to use the yacht basin for recreational purposes. Truly blessed.
Yes the residents of the city yacht basin are a protected and specially privileged lot, its officially endorsed by our city, and they have a lot to be thankful for.
But they wont say thank you…they are slackers living in a floating shanty town with a corrupt BOSS.
Go Dagger !
To all the people and operaters and all involved in simply commenting in the Dagger…. Happy Thanksgiving !!!!!!!!!!!!
Right back at ya, Richie!
RichieC I thank you for your Blessing.Because I have received one. my son was on life support with no hope of recovery. if he lived he would have been a vegetable. with severe brain damage.
three times we were asked to remove the life support. you want something Heart wrenching try to give the ok to pull the plug on your son. this went on for a week every time we said ok. they changed there mind’s.
He is now alert & no Brain damage showing.( He was in a coma) the doctor’s say they can’t take the credit. a Higher power stepped in. let’s Hope every one has A Happy thanks giveing.
WHERE IS THE H.D.G DOCKMASTER? RUMOR HAS IT THAT HE WAS SHUFFLED OUT THE DOOR AFTER EXTENSIVE INVESTIGATION’S AND CONTINUED COMPLAINTS. IT SEEMS HE JUST COULDNT SEE THE DIFFERANCE BETWEEN BEING THE OWNER VERSES BEING A HIRED HAND.
NOW HE DOESNT HAVE TO WORRIE ABOUT IT.
I think I could point a finger, at a voice that appears on the Dagger on a regular basis. as far as the Marina goes.
The word seems to be getting around about the HdG City Yacht Basin. Here is what I know….
1. The issues I had, have been settled with the city. The City and I have made a mutual release, I have been given a lease, and all accusations against me have been discounted.
2. The city has not told me anything more, nor is there any condition that they do anything.
3. This all happened after a long hard look, in detail, at the circumstances surrounding my exile from the yacht basin. This final examination took from October until late December and was personally handled by Mayor Dougherty.
4. Frali has not been seen by me at the marina for about a month. (personal observation)
5. Its my understanding that new information surfaced about certain situations. (this is based upon hearsay from various sources)
The following excerpt from the mutual release sums up what has happened and I’m satisfied with both the results and ramifications.
……….” The parties acknowledge that the city acted in good faith on information that it had received and that the city later determined it would not rely upon the information. “………….
In my eyes we now have a better Yacht Basin with proper oversight and that can only lead to good things. We have made great strides in having a better Yacht Basin already. One of these is the publishing of the waiting list for slips on the City Web Page.
My compliments and thanks to Mayor Dougherty for getting it right even after the tumultuous dialog we have had for the last 18 months. I know it had to be difficult to look at this objectively after some of the things that have been said. I can honestly say that the interest of the city was put ahead of any personal feelings in this matter.
Please understand Im not privey to anything else.
Go Dagger ! !
Must be a mayoral election coming up.
I predict great changes coming for the HdG marina.
The Changes are that the “Marina Mafia” has been NEUTERED. The roadblock to progress is GONE! For many years , in the eyes of many people, the most powerful person in this city was the dock-master. The administration has taken back control and oversight of the marina. The administration has done a good thing. This can only lead to a fairer, more effective, more enjoyable atmosphere in the marina for all users without the “hierarchiel” nonsense that existed for the last 15 years or so.
The marina was literally operated as a semi autonomous, gated community with a king. Now that is gone…as it should be …and the marina will become a recreational facility operated by the city for the enjoyment of all who use it.
The administration, in my opinion, has made major reforms to date with this most recent turn of events. We are well on our way , as a city, to the top rung in services provided in that we have a top shelf police department, a state of the art sewage plant, a state of the art fresh water plant, a state of the art marina, a great dpw, and a new stadium. Last nite I passed our library and every parking space was filled. We have a fantastic fire dept and fantastic ambulance corp along with a full service hospital…and more than that….location, location, location ! !
I’m sure that some attitudes in the marina will carry over for a short time in the old paradigm but they will quickly erode into normalcy as the snake cant survive without the head. The few abusers will quickly realize they need not indulge in strong arming to have a great facility when its not sought, condoned, or necessary. These few will ether get on board or quickly find themselves on the outside.
The truth is that there is nothing that was being done in the marina that is not still available. The difference is that its now all above board. Now the only remaining items to be addressed are safety issues for winter users, a few other liability issues and to insure our waterman have adequate access and facilities to apply their trade. I see catches being schlugged down a long dock to vans that cant get to the docks edge. This is certainly inefficent. We owe them an area to unload efficently.
As far as waterman are concerned…. I would like to see them approached to see what their needs are as far as a wish list for efficent unloading of catches from boats to transport, storage of equipment etc. Lets not forget they are a link to a major part of our history…and currently WATERMAN ARE AN INDUSTRY based in our city.
In the end I’m extremely happy with the results thus far.
All is well that ends well !
GO DAGGER !
A loading zone was reserved at the dock where the watermen keep their boats.
Go Dagger !
I was looking for a side project for my wife and I and instead… I GOT SCAMMED… Anyway lookout for this shlomo. He robbed me 2600 Dollars! Im Pissed, and beyond complaining to the world – theres not much I can do.
Hello,
I’m Millard Kreamer from PA USA. I came across your profile for your place to be rented out.I am interested in renting your place for my niece who will be coming to the Canada for six months vacation in the Canada she will be staying in the place for the duration instead of an hotel due to the exhorbitant price.Please answer my following questions below:
1) I will like to know if your room will be available for six months starting from June 1
2) I will like to have the description of the room, size, and the equipments in there to know what she will bring along when coming.
3) I will like to know the rent fee per month plus the utilities and if you require deposit.I will like to know if you accept paying the rent monthly
4) I want to know if you accept cashier check for payment or travellers check so I can make an advance payment before her arrival that will stand as commitment.
5) I will like to know if the place is near to shopping mall, food stores
6) Lastly, I will like to know more about you.
I will be very glad to have all this questions answered.Hope to hear from you soonget back to me on my e-mail address
Matthew….Scammed…If you still have the e-mail address there may be things you can do.
How did he scamm you…you dont give much detail?
Go-Dagger !
is it safe for slipholders to park their cars in the parking lot overnight? i have seen all kinds of riff raff and thugs hanging out in the tydings park parking lot after hours…
i just think that there should be a segregated parking area for the slip holders at HdG marina. between all the boat ramp users with pickup trucks and trailers taking up half the parking lot and the tydings park users, its not really a safe place for the slip holders to park while theyre staying on their boats..
i have seen boat rampers nearly back their trailers into peoples cars… and there is all kinds of riff raff and thugs just hanging out in the parking lot after hours…sitting in their cars smoking, teens up to no good..
the gates dont keep the general public off the piers, anyone can walk out there and screw around w/ slipholders boats.. there is no sercurity whatsoever
I love how this busy body Ritchie Clements bitches about people leaving the marina in bad shape, while he has abandoned a boat that is sinking and needs to be pumped out continuously to keep her afloat. Grow up Richie, you bag of trash.